Classic Motorsport Photos

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Those early 90's cars were the most beautiful F1 machines IMO. The shape at least. Some of the liveries were questionable. :lol:
I think the shape of the current F1 cars really, really doesn't help the liveries, the shape only accentuates how ugly a car or livery is. The 1990s liveries that worked, worked brilliantly. Simplicity in machine design and in paint scheme.

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My main gripe about the 90s cars is that the long, spindly suspension with nothing around them looks awful.
 
Frank Williams, 1942-2021

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Williams with Ayrton Senna in 1983, the year Senna tested the FW08 at Donington Park.

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Williams was a keen and competitive runner prior to his 1986 accident. This photograph is known to be a staged publicity shot because Alan Jones always refused to do fitness work.

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Williams and fellow Englishman Ron Dennis of McLaren dominated Formula One for twenty years in the 1980s and 1990s.

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It was Williams' tenacious management and his unique relationship with Nigel Mansell that gifted the ebullient Mansell his only world title.

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Under Williams' tutelage, Damon Hill went on to become the first second-generation World Champion.

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Aside from his exploits in Formula One, Frank Williams ran the works Renault team in the BTCC; Alain Menu won the 1997 title in dominant style and Williams-Renault launched the career of Jason Plato.

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Williams Grand Prix Engineering

Grands Prix: 764
Victories: 114
Pole Positions: 128
Fastest Laps: 133

Drivers' Championships: 7 (1980, 1982, 1987, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997)
Constructors' Championships: 9 (1980, 1981, 1986, 1987, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997)
 
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He's standing on top of the wall there, that's slightly less worse than where I initially thought he was stood in the gravel trap, but still not ideal.
 
Jesse Alexander, one of the greatest racing photographers, has died at the age of 92.

 
Jackie Stewart presents a piece to camera from the cockpit of a Tyrrell 014-Renault at the 1986 Canadian GP:

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Corrado Fabi in his naked Osella FA1D-Ford during free practice for the 1983 Monaco GP:

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Piercarlo Ghinzani in his Osella FA1E-Alfa Romeo during qualifying for the 1983 Detroit GP:

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Jackie Stewart presents a piece to camera from the cockpit of a Tyrrell 014-Renault at the 1986 Canadian GP:

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Corrado Fabi in his naked Osella FA1D-Ford during free practice for the 1983 Monaco GP:

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Piercarlo Ghinzani in his Osella FA1E-Alfa Romeo during qualifying for the 1983 Detroit GP:

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Those 1983 cars looked ridiculous with the dual rear wings.
 
The arrow shaped cars were nice but I also have a soft spot for 1984's weird, shapely but bulky look. The rear wings went in a totally different direction.

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I have no doubt the dual rear wings from 1983 were the exploitation of a loophole in the regulations. Looking at the '84 cars in comparison, it seems as though the authorities almost closed the loophole in its entirety bar the winglets seen here.

Also, the 1984 cars appear to have a longer wheelbase than the '83 cars with the driver sitting more reclined. The engine covers definitely look longer too.
 
I have no doubt the dual rear wings from 1983 were the exploitation of a loophole in the regulations. Looking at the '84 cars in comparison, it seems as though the authorities almost closed the loophole in its entirety bar the winglets seen here.

Also, the 1984 cars appear to have a longer wheelbase than the '83 cars with the driver sitting more reclined. The engine covers definitely look longer too.

My understanding is that the rear "winglets" were part of a loophole in the rules that stated that the rear wing endplates could only extend a certain distance behind the rear axle line. There may not have been any regulation for it in front of the rear axle. The design regulations specified a flat bottom throughout, so as to prevent any attempt at ground effect. Even the side mirrors were required to have a corresponding "floor" if they extended any further than the widest part of the bodywork which contained the mirrors.

But since the winglets were positioned over the rear wheels, you couldn't have the flat floor, because it would obstruct the rear wheels. That was the short-lived loophole from 1983-1984, as you don't see them in 1985. I think Toleman pioneered that trick with the TG183/183B, it appeared to have two separate rear wings. None of the other teams were trying it at the opening race of 1983.

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Then they disappeared until the "X-wings" from around 1997-98, and sometimes in places on the sidepods. Not quite sure how they made a comeback in the mid-2000s, though the floors of the cars were getting a lot more complicated in design and function compared to twenty years earlier.
 
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My understanding is that the rear "winglets" were part of a loophole in the rules that stated that the rear wing endplates could only extend a certain distance behind the rear axle line. There may not have been any regulation for it in front of the rear axle. The design regulations specified a flat bottom throughout, so as to prevent any attempt at ground effect. Even the side mirrors were required to have a corresponding "floor" if they extended any further than the widest part of the bodywork which contained the mirrors.

But since the winglets were positioned over the rear wheels, you couldn't have the flat floor, because it would obstruct the rear wheels. That was the short-lived loophole from 1983-1984, as you don't see them in 1985. I think Toleman pioneered that trick with the TG183/183B, it appeared to have two separate rear wings. None of the other teams were trying it at the opening race of 1983.

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Then they disappeared until the "X-wings" from around 1997-98, and sometimes in places on the sidepods. Not quite sure how they made a comeback in the mid-2000s, though the floors of the cars were getting a lot more complicated in design and function compared to twenty years earlier.
The TG183B certainly is an interesting car, for more than one reason too.

Having just done a little Google for a comparison with the TG183 that did the final 2 races of the 1982 season, it's most definitely revolution instead of evolution.

For some reason, most likely the short sidepods, they reverted to mounting the radiators in the front wing! Does this make them the last team in F1 history to do so? Gordon Murray's Brabham BT52 managed to keep the radiators sidepod-mounted by setting them at an angle.
You would think that that front wing would be as aerodynamic as someone's front step in relation to the other cars with conventional wings, but Derek Warwick managed to qualify the car 5th & finish 8th in that first race of 1983 in Brazil. Maybe the dual rear wings are responsible for that result & caught the others napping? Warwick still managed to finish the final 4 races of 1983 in the points (top 6 back in those days) with best results of 4th at Zandvoort & Kyalami.

Having looked at several pics, I can't see any join between the normal rear wing & its wider, forward-mounted workmate.
 
Yep, that's Coulthard alright
The story goes that David Coulthard was having issues with his helmet fogging up during the wet morning warm-up, to the point that they couldn't be resolved in time for the race and thus, DC had to take matters into his own hands and asked to borrow a helmet from another driver... Michael Schumacher happened to be the guy that said yes and Coulthard used his spare helmet during the race.

Coincidentally, this was also the same race that only saw seven classified finishers, with about three actually running on track at the end and Schumacher himself was one of FIVE drivers to have crashed out on the opening lap...
 
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