CLOSED: POLL: 2.0 Advanced Competition: Week 13 (WINNER: Benmastaw00t)

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03.04.11
 
It is what it is I guess. I think with each week comes just the randomness of whether or not shots will make it, until it is ultimately up to you. It's questionable why some entries are chosen and what work have put in (whether quality or not) is all up to the judge. It's not always easy or fair, but I think it's a mix between quality pictures, what the judge likes, and what he/she may think the people will like.
 
Strictly speaking, it's impossible for an image to have 0 composition :P.
The Tuscan shot isn't my particular cup of tea, sure (though that Lambo one definitely is), but it is gtsomething's, hence why he picked it, and hence why you guys would definitely pick your own personal favourites if you were the judges this week :).
 
I think, there was better shots. Instead of the following:​


http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5134/5474210533_99845db1a2_b.jpg - Has an awarked angle, along with too much exposure.
http://i54.tinypic.com/2gw955f.jpg/ - Too much expsoure.
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8127/sangimignanotownsquare6.jpg - Has far too much noise, while lacking any composition.
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/107/week13pac.jpg - The filter and colour tones, ruin the shot.
Everyone deserves a chance, just because you dislike some pictures does not mean that others feel the same way.
 
If I was the judge, then I would pick the shots based on a mix of factors. Instead of just picking shots, based on taste.

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My factors:

*Lighting
*Composition

Everyone deserves a chance, just because you dislike some pictures does not mean that others feel the same way.
If I didn't give a reason, on how a shot could be improved. Then it would be classed as not giving anyone a chance. However in real world photography, a lot of thought has to be put behind a shot.

Because if everyone didn't put any thought behind their shots, then no one wouldn't strive to improve. Which is bad news for a mix of reasons, take a snap shot. If that made it into an art book, then the book wouldn't sell.
 
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I thought I'd had a chance to hit the poll as well this week (though I can understand it might show too less of the surroundings for the judge his liking) and I've seen better shots in the topic that didnt make it, while there are some in the poll that I don't like at all.

But well, like all sports and competitions that involves judges it all depends on what the judge sees and wants. All in all this weeks judge won the right to pick his own selection by winning the previous round. It stays a matter of opinions when it comes to these competitions.
 
If I was the judge, then I would pick the shots based on a mix of factors. Instead of just picking shots, based on taste.

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My factors:

*Lighting
*Composition

If I didn't give a reason, on how a shot could be improved. Then it would be classed as not giving anyone a chance. However in real world photography, a lot of thought has to be put behind a shot.

Because if everyone didn't put any thought behind their shots, then no one wouldn't strive to improve. Which is bad news for a mix of reasons, take a snap shot. If that made it into an art book, then the book wouldn't sell.
To be fair, You're picture isn't really doing anything for me. I think the angle, car and lighting just looks wrong for the location. Maybe others LIKE it though? I mean, like i said, everyone has different perception on what makes a great photo, and ours are different.
 
If I was the judge, then I would pick the shots based on a mix of factors. Instead of just picking shots, based on taste.

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My factors:

*Lighting
*Composition

And your tastes dictate how you judge those two factors, really. There is no "right" answer when it comes down to artistic appreciation. Which is why I'm still looking forward to the week when there aren't complaints about the fact that a judge's tastes won't match up with every other users ;).
 
To be fair, You're picture isn't really doing anything for me. I think the angle, car and lighting just looks wrong for the location. Maybe others LIKE it though? I mean, like i said, everyone has different perception on what makes a great photo, and ours are different.
My entry is a scenery shot, because I feel the photo travel location doesn't work for cars at all.

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And your tastes dictate how you judge those two factors, really. There is no "right" answer when it comes down to artistic appreciation. Which is why I'm still looking forward to the week when there aren't complaints about the fact that a judge's tastes won't match up with every other users ;).
When I was the judge in one of the weeks, I went through 4 shortlists. Before posting up my final candidates.

Along with that, I didn't base my nominations on taste. But how well the shot was set out, seeing how I prefer a shot with composition.
 
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Having never managed to win one of these, I can only imagine how difficult it is for the judge to make the determination as to which images make the poll. Though I agree that some shots that made the poll this week aren't up to the usual standards, it is - at the end of the day - the judge's decision.

Though I'm a bit surprised at some of the shots that missed it - especially Sejtur's - that's why we'll have another competition next week! :)
 
I think, there was better shots. Instead of the following:​


http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5134/5474210533_99845db1a2_b.jpg - Has an awarked angle, along with too much exposure.
http://i54.tinypic.com/2gw955f.jpg/ - Too much expsoure.
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8127/sangimignanotownsquare6.jpg - Has far too much noise, while lacking any composition.
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/107/week13pac.jpg - The filter and colour tones, ruin the shot.

Sorry Pebb, you never this annoying on the FM.N forums before.

The shots that made the poll are of the previous winner's choice. Therefore, your constant bickering has about as much potency as a Suzuki Cappuccino.

to put it in your style format...

Closing thoughts:

Cool, your jets.
 
My entry is a scenery shot, because I feel the photo travel location doesn't work for cars at all.
Fair enough, I have to say, you do make some great shots though, don't get me wrong. Better than anything i could come up with. :bowdown:
 
@ Benmastaw00t: The reason, I gave out my thoughts on some shots. Is so those people can improve, which you want in the community.

Because if everyone took the same type of shots, then the community would become boring.


@ Sejtur: I feel your shot, deserved to be in the poll. Seeing how you put the time and effort into the shot.
 

I really, really thought mine would of made it, It's one of the few shots i actually think doesn't suck
 
@ Benmastaw00t: The reason, I gave out my thoughts on some shots. Is so those people can improve, which you want in the community.

Because if everyone took the same type of shots, then the community would become boring.


@ Sejtur: I feel your shot, deserved to be in the poll. Seeing how you put the time and effort into the shot.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=146088

Put your critique down on this thread.
 
Ok, so clearly, some explanation is in order. First off, I love this location because it's a hit or miss location. It can either turn out really good, or not good at all. Seeing as it is a photo travel location, I looked for a certain amount of good detail since the detail in photo travel is much better than on track. I openly admit that I based a few of my decisions on personal taste, but asking me not to do so is as good as me not being a judge at all, also, I don't have a biased liking towards italian cars. I did however take composition and uniqueness into account, which might give insight into some of the... more... "wth?" shots. When choosing I didn't just pick and slap it on the list, I split them up into 3 groups and went over each one over and over again.

Not even going to be nice, i feel cheated.

Gtuned, I actually had you on my list to make the poll, but when you changed your entry I had to rethink it, it's one of those times where... you're writing an exam, and you put down and answer, have too much doubt in it, change it, and then realize your first answer was right. It wasn't only you neither, I only liked one of the changed entries (as in liked the new one more than the old one).

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=183655&page=3#post4898161

Could you tell why my shot hasn't made the cut, gtsomething? I really, really want to know it so the next time I can make it when you win the 2.0 competition again...

I actually really liked your shot Sejtur, when you first put I up, I said to myself "that's most likely going to make the poll" but the more I looked at it, the more it bothered me. Mainly the jagged reflection on the windshield, had that been smooth, it would have made the poll for sure. Yeah it's just one minor flaw, but if the Mona Lisa had a crooked nose... well, you get the point.

where is my picture?...........

:'(

I think it deserves to be on this poll


San Gimignano_ plaza mayor_lmb por x4viier, en Flickr

It's quite dark, and nothing really jumps out at me as spectacular. Although it's not a bad picture, it just wasn't good enough for me.

My entry is a scenery shot, because I feel the photo travel location doesn't work for cars at all.

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When I was the judge in one of the weeks, I went through 4 shortlists. Before posting up my final candidates.

Along with that, I didn't base my nominations on taste. But how well the shot was set out, seeing how I prefer a shot with composition.

I allowed the scenery shot because it would bring a bit more variety into the competition, and it's not like I don't like the shot, because I have a picture in real life with similar post processing. But when you said you were going to do a scenery shot, I thought it would be very difficult, but of course I was still curious as to what you could pull off. I thought it would be difficult because the buildings in GT5 aren't very detailed, their corners are very sharp and harsh, yet their flat surfaces are pixelated and rough, so that's why it didn't make the poll.

I think, there was better shots. Instead of the following:​


http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5134/5474210533_99845db1a2_b.jpg - Has an awarked angle, along with too much exposure.
http://i54.tinypic.com/2gw955f.jpg/ - Too much expsoure.
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8127/sangimignanotownsquare6.jpg - Has far too much noise, while lacking any composition.
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/107/week13pac.jpg - The filter and colour tones, ruin the shot.

The first one I liked cause of the tone and detail, the tones especially, they bring the focus towards the car, and it looks kind of movie-like. Which is a type of filter I've always liked.
The second one had unique POV and good vignetting.
The third one, I don't know why I like it, it's obviously very unique, and when enlarged it just appealed to me as an interesting image, and it stood out very well.
The fourth one, originally I wasn't too big of a fan of it, the colours were extremely saturated and harsh, and I don't like the composition as the car is sitting in a very awkward place. But when enlarged the background detail looked nice, as the filter suited the people in the shot, it looked almost like a postcard. This shot was one of my final decisions, and I was really skeptical about adding it to the poll because of the composition, but in the end, the way the filter affects the location made me add it in.

If anyone else wants an explanation as to my apparently whacky decisions, or wants to know why their picture didn't make it. I will happily oblige.

Edit: Looking back at it now, there is 1, MAYBE two, maybe, that I would change on that poll.
 
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If anyone else wants an explanation as to my apparently whacky decisions, or wants to know why their picture didn't make it. I will happily oblige.

There's been enough negativity in the thread already. I'd like to know why my shot did make it. :)

Well done and good luck to everyone who made the poll. 👍
 
Sorry Pebb, you never this annoying on the FM.N forums before.

The shots that made the poll are of the previous winner's choice. Therefore, your constant bickering has about as much potency as a Suzuki Cappuccino.

to put it in your style format...

Closing thoughts:

Cool, your jets.

Why so serious? I'm wondering who really need to cool it's jets.:rolleyes:
TVR&FF offered his valuable view and opinion of some of the shots in poll, don't understand why such a hostile position towards him. :irked:

Competitions like these will undoubtedly be based in the Judge personal taste on the images composition. Like SlipZ said, there is no right or wrong, they all fall through the Judge personal taste; some people may like it, some don't, art is subjective, and that is the beauty of it.

Oh and, TVR&FF, some of the greatest shots, even in real like photography, were made without any thought, bordering the edge of photography rules. ;)
 
I actually really liked your shot Sejtur, when you first put I up, I said to myself "that's most likely going to make the poll" but the more I looked at it, the more it bothered me. Mainly the jagged reflection on the windshield, had that been smooth, it would have made the poll for sure. Yeah it's just one minor flaw, but if the Mona Lisa had a crooked nose... well, you get the point.

Thanks for explaining your choice to not include my entry in the poll. I get what you're saying very well. To be honest, I thought those edges were tiles sticking from the rooftops. Apparently, I thought wrong. Stupid me. If you thought I didn't remove the edges because of being lacklustre, having too much confidence or being disable to smooth them out, none of that was the cause. I edged out another reflection, that I knew certainly was not from the tiles. I guess I should have done the other edge ones while I was at it. But it still doesn't feel satisfactory because it's, like you said, only a minor flaw. I really liked the tones, the composition was unique, the reflections played out well (except for that edgy one then), the angle was unique. I really counted on being in the poll (and maybe even more), and that's why I'm deeply dissapointed in your choice not to include it. In fact, I thought it was one of my best pictures to date, and taking into account all of my other entries made it into the polls and gathering certain amounts of votes it feels really harsh that this one didn't even get in. Maybe it's safer to ask the judge what he might dislike about my entry in the future, to prevent bitter dissapointments such as this.
 
Thanks for explaining your choice to not include my entry in the poll. I get what you're saying very well. To be honest, I thought those edges were tiles sticking from the rooftops. Apparently, I thought wrong. Stupid me. If you thought I didn't remove the edges because of being lacklustre, having too much confidence or being disable to smooth them out, none of that was the cause. I edged out another reflection, that I knew certainly was not from the tiles. I guess I should have done the other edge ones while I was at it. But it still doesn't feel satisfactory because it's, like you said, only a minor flaw. I really liked the tones, the composition was unique, the reflections played out well (except for that edgy one then), the angle was unique. I really counted on being in the poll (and maybe even more), and that's why I'm deeply dissapointed in your choice not to include it. In fact, I thought it was one of my best pictures to date, and taking into account all of my other entries made it into the polls and gathering certain amounts of votes it feels really harsh that this one didn't even get in. Maybe it's safer to ask the judge what he might dislike about my entry in the future, to prevent bitter dissapointments such as this.

I completely understand your frustration, if I were in your shoes, I wouldn't be very happy either, and I agree with your positive points about the image, if the pictures were ranked in some kind of points system, that one flaw wouldn't degrade the image so much as to it not making the poll. But on the personal side, that one jagged reflection just didn't flow with the rest of the smooth lines in the image, and that unfortunately, just didn't do it for me. However, I do hope to see more images like this from you in the future! 👍
 
Why so serious? I'm wondering who really need to cool it's jets.:rolleyes:
TVR&FF offered his valuable view and opinion of some of the shots in poll, don't understand why such a hostile position towards him. :irked:

Competitions like these will undoubtedly be based in the Judge personal taste on the images composition.

> mfw.
 
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