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vtec_guy
Ok..I'm still confused! What red part of the 'frex setup' is being referenced here? Links to pics would help clarify greatly!
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Clutch, shifter, and all that jazz
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Ok..I'm still confused! What red part of the 'frex setup' is being referenced here? Links to pics would help clarify greatly!
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MagpieRacer
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SimRaceDriver
Did that cost more than if you did it the other way?
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it doesn't matter know because i found out that it was a joytech momo force steering wheel with a frex adption!
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GT_Fan2005
Yes it did...but in my opinion, it was worth it because if I tried to open up my own DFP and attempt the soldering/re-wiring of their shifter in place of the original one, I would have seriously screwed something up...so in order not to have that experience, I paid a little extra for it...
But at least now should anything (God forbid) happen to my current wheel, I've got my original one as a backup! ;-)
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SimRaceDriver
Sorry to barge in on your discussion, simracedriver...
But since good equipment seems to mean quite a lot to you: What would you say to a wheel that has a bigger electric motor which is directly attached to the steering rod? Why, you ask?
Because what's still turning me off a little bit about my DFP is the fact that the transmission makes this whining noise (although I'm getting used to it). The frex wheels look awesome, but doesn't it suck to spend so much money and then still have the plastic casing and the whining noise? I really wish frex would make their own wheel. Just look at their pedals and imagine what it would look like (aluminium casing... ball bearings on steering rod... no plastic transmission->equals no whining noise...) and how smooth it would work...
MagpieRacer
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SimRaceDriver
hope you dont mind me asking but how much did the frex dfp cost?
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Mr. Apex
No, it doesn't suck because you make the game/experience 'fun' for your self, not others....And when you're after that all important 'immersion factor', you do/buy/make what you want to have that and feel it.!
Quite honestly, I've never had a problem with any noise from the DFP or any other FFB wheel I've used...Probably because I'm concentrating more on the actual "driving process" then worrying about what slightly noticeable noise my wheel makes when in use but that's just me!
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SimRaceDriver
You know my simple answer to all this money spending? BUY A MC2 IF YOU WANT TO UP GRADE YOUR DFP!!! That way, you get a clutch that is compatable with PS2, you get an e-brake lever, you still have your origional DFP shift lever, IT ONLY COSTS 50 BUCKS, and to top it all off.....you have a second wheel. And it's a high quality, quiet, non force feedback wheel for older games, and it doesn't wake up your parents at 3:00am at that.
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WTH!?! Buy a MCII wheel if you want to 'upgrade!'...Dude, put the crack pipe down and step away slowly!
What mathematical equation did you come up with that indicates a MCII wheel is an UPGRADE to a DFP?
As for a 'clutch'...ummm, first off, there isn't a clutch on the MCII wheel...and if you could 'map' a button, there is no setting w/in GT4 that is going to give you the experience of having a clutch, so, personally speaking, I believe your statement has flaws! (Though, I would like to hear your thinking behind this!)
Oh, don't forget, while the MCII wheel only costs $50 bucks..Remember this, you get what you paid for!
Don't believe me? Ask yourself this question.."Where would you rather buy your next pair of shoes from...FootLocker The Athletes Foot or Payless Shoe Source?...
Thank you...I stand corrected! :-)
What mathematical equation did you come up with that indicates a MCII wheel is an UPGRADE to a DFP?
As for a 'clutch'...ummm, first off, there isn't a clutch on the MCII wheel...and if you could 'map' a button, there is no setting w/in GT4 that is going to give you the experience of having a clutch, so, personally speaking, I believe your statement has flaws! (Though, I would like to hear your thinking behind this!)
Oh, don't forget, while the MCII wheel only costs $50 bucks..Remember this, you get what you paid for!
Don't believe me? Ask yourself this question.."Where would you rather buy your next pair of shoes from...FootLocker The Athletes Foot or Payless Shoe Source?...
Thank you...I stand corrected! :-)
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Mr. ApexUmmm... what?
You mean the Mad Catz Pedals plug into the DFP??? And that works?
(MC2 = Mad Catz II?)
Yes, MCII = Mad Catz II
Yes, the MC II plugs into the PS2, as there is a version of the MCII wheel that comes with 3 adapters...1=PS2, 1=Xbox, 1=GC..
As for the PS2 adapter, it's just like plugging in a DS controller.
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SimRaceDriver
I AM IN NO WAY saying that the MC2 is a better wheel. What I'm saying is that you can upgrade your DFP by using both at the same time. Here's how:
The MC2 plugs into the controller port at the same time as the DFP plugs into the USB port, therefore you have two options for every control. In games that have a clutch (TOCA 2, Enthusia, etc) you can assign the clutch as the gas pedal on the MC2 (do this in game options, or by using the reassignment button on your MC2). You set the MC2 pedals next to the DFP pedals and now you have a clutch pedal. GT4, unfortunately, doesn't have a clutch. So no, you can't have a clutch in GT4 or GT3. BTW, you do have to learn how to heel-toe it to downshift in TOCA 2 properly.
This trick works in all games with an e-brake function. (ie. all racing games except the Tokyo Extreme Race series) All you have to do is set the MC2 backwards next to you (still driving with DFP) so that the shift lever is comfortably in reach. Then reassign the e-brake to take the place of up-shift on the lever. Now you have an e-brake handle that is actually quite fun and easy to use.
With both of these tricks you will have the function both on the DFP and on the MC2. So you can still press L1 on your DFP to hit the clutch if you can find it, and hit O on the DFP to lock the e-brake. Again, IF YOU CAN FIND THE BUTTONS WHILE TURNING THE WHEEL, that is!! It is much easier to have a clutch pedal and an e-brake lever, TRUST ME.
SimRaceDriver "Put the crack pipe down and step away" That kills me man!
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Might be getting a BRD Speed 7 when it's released! My dad wanted to buy an F355 Challenge arcade cabinet, but I figured it would be cheaper to build a PC cabinet that could play rFactor, GTR, GT:Legends, LFS, AND NR2003 instead of just F355C and would have a brand new steering assembly.
EDIT yessh... I'm using RSC to compare different manufacturers. So far I've seen that the BRD pedals are the best, but I don't like what I've seen with the BRD wheels. I'm looking into cheaper alternatives than the USD1200 Speed7
EDIT yessh... I'm using RSC to compare different manufacturers. So far I've seen that the BRD pedals are the best, but I don't like what I've seen with the BRD wheels. I'm looking into cheaper alternatives than the USD1200 Speed7
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rsmithdrift
Ok, so i've put this theory to the test using a regular controller and the DFP with TOCA. Problem is, when you boot up the game, you are asked to "press start". from this point, the game determines which device you are using: press start on the dfp, it only recognizes the usb wheel and vise versa. I'm i missing something here??
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Please, can anyone explain how they manage to get 2 wheels working with TOCA2 on PS2 (for the clutch thing). I tried using a regular controler and the DFP but the game only recognize the device I used to press the start button on bootup. How can that be any different using a MC2 as opposed to the dual shock controler? Help needed please!
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rsmithdrift
Man, I need to keep better track of my posts...Excuse my seriously late reply!
Now I understand your post better! As far as using an e-brake...w/the help of two (2) different wheels...I still think it would be better and a lot easier to use an actual e-brake, as the one provided by a company called Frex! Pic is here
Now, this would require popping open the DFP and doing a little re-wiring but I think in the end, it would be a lot more beneficial? But hell! I could be wrong!
rsmithdriftSimRaceDriver
Glad I could make you laugh, as that was my initial intention!
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SimRaceDriver
..but how do get Toca to recognize both wheel at the same time????????!!!!!
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Philsterspeed
it was rsmithdrift who mentioned using two (2) wheels..so I'd ask him..
I use a 3rd party e-brake which is recognized by all the games I currently play, including GT4 & TOCA (both I & II)
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MotZodd
Yep!
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someone should definately answer that... i have a an old driving force, a driving force pro, and a mad catz wheel... if someone knows how to get them both working at the same time that would be amazing. do share the knowledge.
