Comparison between GT6 to GT7 for car PPs

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Just for trivia here, as the PP of the cars in GT7 has been readjusted into a new scale compared to the last time it was used, I'm trying to compare them, within several car categories for the cars that already existed in GT6 before (there were likely small readjustments for GT5 but overall it was similar), there'd be some other lists of the car category here like the GTS/GT7 newcomers (including a comparison to a car resembling it previously) or comparable cars (in performance), but the ones that existed in GT6 before takes priority here to compare the scales (of which you can use for newcomers or bonus comparisons). There's also a (quite lengthy) evaluation I get/create between these comparisons, though you can use the conclusion to get through faster points.

Cars that make up the list would be real life cars (other than Ford GT Spec II race cars). For road cars, they're inserted on one of the performance categories based on their PP on GT6, so even if their GT7 PP is way below the others in the same category, cars like Camaro Z28 1969 or Countach 25th Anniversary 1988 are in Japanese "Gentleman's Agreement" (non-JDM) and Supercars (entry level) respectively.


Japanese "Gentleman's Agreement" Performance

276 "gentleman's agreement" hp level, but cars at least around 230-240 hp can enter too:
BrandModelPP (GT6)PP (GT7)
HondaNSX Type R 1992463527.14
HondaNSX Type R 2002468532.19
HondaS2000 1999428482.14
MazdaRX500 1970474475.60
MazdaRX-7 Spirit R Type A (FD) 2002466526.82
MitsubishiLancer Evolution III GSR 1995433477.02
MitsubishiLancer Evolution IV GSR 1996442486.61
MitsubishiLancer Evolution V GSR 1998463504.34
MitsubishiLancer Evolution VI Tommi Makinen Edition 1999466523.79
MitsubishiLancer Evolution VIII MR GSR 2004475512.88
NissanFairlady Z 300ZX TwinTurbo 2seater (Z32) 1989440480.87
NissanFairlady Z Version S (Z33) 2007456524.31
NissanFairlady Z (Z34) 2008462524.49
NissanSilvia spec-R Aero (S15) 2002433498.38
NissanSkyline R32 GT-R V-Spec II 1994456511.32
NissanSkyline R33 GT-R V-Spec 1997458513.24
NissanSkyline R34 GT-R V-Spec II Nur 2002472521.32
SubaruImpreza Coupe WRX typeR STi Version VI 1999458486.52
SubaruImpreza Coupe 22B-STi Version 1998456514.76
ToyotaMR2 GT-S 1997435484.17
ToyotaSupra 3.0GT Turbo A 1988429470.90
ToyotaSupra RZ 1997471522.52

Newcomers:
BrandModelPP
HondaCivic Type R (FK2) 2015509.81
HondaCivic Type R (FL5) 2022528.93
HondaCivic Type R Limited Edition (FK8) 2020522.74
MazdaRX-8 Spirit R 2012489.98
MitsubishiGTO Twin Turbo 1991476.01 (GT6's 1995 GTO Twin Turbo PP = 447)
MitsubishiLancer Evolution IX MR GSR 2006507.76 (GT6's 2005 IX GSR PP = 449)
MitsubishiLancer Evolution X Final Edition 2015512.72 (GT6's Premium Package PP = 463)
NissanSkyline GT-R Nismo (R32)515.94 (last appeared in GT2 so no GT6 PP to compare)
SubaruBRZ S 2021495.42
SubaruImpreza Sedan WRX STi 2004503.12 (GT6's 2002 Type-II PP = 457)
SubaruWRX STI Type S 2014507.05
ToyotaCelica GT-Four (ST205) 1994471.82 (GT6's 1998 ST205 PP = 424)
ToyotaCrown Athlete G 2013488.88
ToyotaGR Corolla MORIZO Edition 2022512.31
ToyotaGR Yaris "High performance" 2020508.80
ToyotaGR86 RZ 2021495.51

Non-JDM cars with similar performance:
BrandModelHPPP (GT6)PP (GT7)
Alfa Romeo4C 2014235-530.47
AlpineA110 2017248-527.60
Aston MartinDB5 1964281-445.62
AudiTT Coupe 3.2 V6 2003239421467.25
AudiTTS Coupe 2009268443515.00
AudiTTS Coupe 2014305-533.76
BMWM3 Sport Evolution 1989234-468.01
BMWM3 1997316-494.72
BMWM3 (E46)339469 (2004)523.05 (2003)
ChevroletCamaro Z28 1969289450455.26
ChevroletCorvette (C1) 1958243- (GT6 had 1954 ver.)437.84
ChevroletCorvette Stingray Concept 1959314470518.40
ChevroletCorvette (C2) 1963359 (though in GT6 it had 248hp)429512.46
ChevroletCorvette Convertible (C3) 1969298455455.17
ChevroletCorvette Stingray (C3) 1969350465506.40
ChevroletCorvette ZR-1 (C4) 1989375475524.10
De TomasoMangusta 1969300-488.43
De TomasoPantera 1971325-474.12
DodgeSuper Bee 1970335-444.81
Ferrari250 GT Berlinetta passo corto 1961275454481.14
Ferrari308 GTB 1976251-472.50
Ferrari512BB 1976354481527.01
FerrariTestarossa 1991382-523.32
FordFocus ST 2015250-487.24
FordFocus RS 2018350-528.08
FordMustang Boss 429 1969374-500.40
FordMustang Mach 1 1971302453444.81
GenesisG70 3.3T AWD P.Package 2022366-506.13
HyundaiGenesis Coupe 3.8 2013343465521.96
JaguarE-type Coupe 1961264439448.76
Mercedes-AMGA45 AMG 2013355-523.01
Mercedes-Benz190E 2.5-16 Evolution II 1991231410463.00
PlymouthXNR Ghia Roadster 1960250408424.08
PontiacGTO 'The Judge' 1969364-466.81
Porsche911 Turbo (930) 1981295-502.57
Porsche911 Carrera RS (964) 1992255-515.51
Porsche911 Carrera RS (993) 1995289-528.37
Porsche911 Carrera RS CS (993) 1995295-531.19
RenaultClio V6 24V 2000229427468.52
RenaultMegane RS Trophy 2011261440498.00
ShelbyGT350 1965306454474.44
VolkswagenScirocco R 2010252438504.74

The PP between the cars on Japanese Gentleman's Agreement ("276hp" or around it) performance level on GT6 sits around 440-470 PP (up to lv. 7 in GT5, very rarely for lv. 8 though), though it can stretch down until 420 (seems none of the cars around 250hp reach 440, and most "276hp" cars start at around 440 with few exceptions like Supra A70). While for GT7, it's now sitting around 470-520 PP, though it can stretch down until around 440 for some classic cars.

Now NSX is the JDM with the highest PP; the facelift one, with the pop-up version not far behind (both are the Type R version), seems to make sense that NSX was the unbeatable one between JDM fight in GT1 (Normal Car Cup), of which standard NSX had quite low PP in GT5/6, sitting at 440-450 range (and Type R would be the only one that is on higher end but not that high).

350Z now has a rather high PP, surpassing both Supra RZ and Skyline R34. Evo VIII had the highest PP in GT6 among the JDM, but now it's on an average level at 512.88. Tommi Makinen Evo is the Evo with the highest PP now. RX-7 is the one closer to the NSXs now.

Some of the older "276hp" level JDM cars had reeeaally low PP ratings here compared to the others, like GTO Twin Turbo, sitting at the 470 range. Even lower than the 250hp range cars (which is why I put them here too) like S2000. Silvia spec-R though, got notably increased to almost reach 500 here, higher than cars like Evo IV and is rather close to cars like WRX STI 2017.

The foreign "276hp" level cars (though some can have up to 380hp) had mostly similar PP range as the JDMs.... but there can be even more impressive ones; 4C and A110 had around 240hp (of which the JDM had none of them reaching 440 in GT6/500 in GT7), but they're among the highest ones in this list, more than bigger hp cars.

For a car that is mainly known as a supercar (albeit later Japan also got GT-R and NSX on supercar territory), Corvette and 911 had quite surprising numbers of their roster being on "276hp" level here, albeit the classic ones, and Porsche had a really exceptional one with a car that even reached 530 in Carrera RS 1995 (the only one). Even after the update increases some of their PP, GT7 scale-wise, C3 Convertible's PP is still notably low, weirdly different from the other Corvettes.

The classic cars among the non-JDM ones here had their PP go even lower than the JDMs above, like the muscle cars that actually had average PP on GT6 such as the Camaro Z28, of which those had around 430 PP on the GT7 scale. Testarossa had lower PP than 512BB, and it being listed here I guess that's the reason why NSX was considered a Japanese supercar of matching Testarossa. And now RX500 is below RX-8, of which its PP was higher than most JDMs in GT5/6.

Scirocco R's PP seems to be raised on "276hp" level cars more, being similar to Evo VI now. Previously it didn't reach 440 like cars such as MR2 GT-S (243hp).

Due to the update making more cars reach 530 PP here, the 2019 Supra is now currently moved here, though I find it weird that its PP is mostly unchanged (also the 2020 Supra) and by that find the PP underrated for now.

PP range:
  • GT6: 440-470, can expand lower to 420.
  • GT7: 470-530, can expand lower to around 440 for several classic cars.
Cars with increased PP (speculation, GT6 scale → GT7 scale):
  • Audi TTS Coupe 2009: 443 → 515.00.
  • Nissan Fairlady Z Version S (Z33) 2007: 456 → 524.31.
  • Nissan Silvia spec-R Aero (S15) 2002: 433 → 498.38.
Cars with decreased PP (speculation, GT6 scale → GT7 scale):
  • Chevrolet Camaro Z28 1969: 450 → 455.26.
  • Chevrolet Corvette Convertible (C3) 1969: 455 → 455.17.
  • Chevrolet Corvette Stingray (C3) 1969: 465 → 506.40.
  • Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1 (C4) 1989: 475 → 524.10.
  • Ferrari 250 GT Berlinetta passo corto 1961: 454 → 481.14.
  • Ford Mustang Mach 1 1971: 453 → 444.81.
  • Jaguar E-type Coupe 1961: 439 → 448.76.
  • Mazda RX500 1970: 474 → 475.60.
  • Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution V GSR 1998: 463 → 495.03.
  • Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR GSR 2004: 475 → 512.88.
  • (slight) Nissan Skyline R34 GT-R V-Spec II Nur 2002: 472 → 521.32.
  • Shelby GT350 1965: 454 → 468.45.
  • Subaru Impreza Coupe WRX typeR STi Version VI 1999: 458 → 486.52.
  • Toyota MR2 GT-S 1997: 435 → 466.86.
  • (slight) Toyota Supra RZ 1997: 471 → 522.52.


Other sport JDMs

BrandModelPP (GT6)PP (GT7)
HondaCivic SiR-II (EG) 1993379400.04
HondaCivic Type R (EK) 1997390437.51
HondaCivic Type R (EK) 1998391438.81
HondaIntegra Type R (DC2) 1995407458.38
HondaIntegra Type R (DC2) 1998408459.97
MazdaEunos Roadster NA 1989358381.06
MazdaRX-7 GT-X (FC) 1990406459.87
Nissan180SX Type X 1996409463.37
NissanFairlady 240ZG (HS30) 1971378407.73
NissanSileighty 1998411467.85
NissanSilvia Q's (S13) 1988359381.32
NissanSilvia Ks Dia Selection (S13) 1990392418.21
NissanSilvia K's Aero (S14) 1996416482.78
NissanSkyline 2000GT-R (KPGC110) 1973370396.36
NissanSkyline Hard Top 2000GT-R (KPGC10) 1971370402.00
SubaruBRZ S 2015406449.63
SuzukiSwift Sport 2007350400.55
Toyota2000GT 1967373406.30
ToyotaCorolla Levin GT-APEX (AE86) 1983360384.90
ToyotaSprinter Trueno GT-APEX (AE86) 1983359385.66
ToyotaSprinter Trueno Shuichi Shigeno Edition434508.56

Newcomers:
BrandModelPP
MazdaRoadster (ND) S 2015419.74
MazdaRoadster (ND) NR-A 2022423.49
NissanFairlazy Z 432 1969409.66
NissanSilvia K's Type S (S14) 1994484.31
SubaruBRZ STI Sport 2018469.94
SuzukiSwift Sport 2017425.03
Toyota86 GT 2015448.73
Toyota86 GRMN 2016475.46
Toyota86 GT "Limited" 2016452.58
ToyotaSF-R 2015416.27

Doing this one only to fill on the blanks (regarding JDMs, and only some of them). The PP between other JDM sport cars on GT6 sits around 350-370 PP for lower level performances, while the higher performance ones sit mostly around 390-410 PP. While for GT7, the lower performance ones now sit around 370-410 higher performance ones sit mostly around 440-470 PP.

Earlier on, the PP for many classic JDMs here were still similarly big (small) as GT6 ones or even lower (like Silvia Qs S13 going from 359 to 365.20).... which'd mean the classic JDMs had all of their clearly PP lowered in GT7, but it's no longer the case of this PP update, of which the low ones (the 350 ones at GT6) sit at 370 range.

After PP update, the higher performance ones seem to be scaled up to be closer to the lower "276hp" level cars above which had 470 for lower ones, shown in cars like 180SX and Sileighty to reach 460. It seems to apply even more to European hatches, like Clio R.S 220 Trophy 2015 having 472.64). And like S15 above, Silvia here (S14, both but there's Aero version for comparison with GT6's PP) has its PP even surpassing cars like GTO Twin Turbo.

AE86 Shuichi Shigeno is the big outlier here, already had 434 PP (MR2 GT-S level) on GT6 scale, and unlike other classics, it got even higher here at 519.71 PP, now surpassing even Supra RZ. It always had "276hp" level performance on both games, just that technically its hp is 207.

Swift Sport '17 performs quite decently here, significantly higher than the 2007 version and is close to the likes of Civic Type R EK.

PP range:
  • GT6:
    • Lower performance: 350-370.
    • Higher performance: 390-410, highest is 434.
  • GT7:
    • Lower performance: 370-410.
    • Higher performance: 430-460, can expand higher to 480.
Cars with increased PP (speculation, GT6 scale → GT7 scale):
  • Honda Integra Type R (DC2) 1995: 407 → 458.38.
  • Honda Integra Type R (DC2) 1998: 408 → 459.97.
  • Nissan Silvia K's Aero (S14) 1996: 416 → 482.78.
  • Suzuki Swift Sport 2007: 350 → 400.55.
  • Toyota Sprinter Trueno Shuichi Shigeno Edition: 434 → 508.56.
Cars with decreased PP (speculation, GT6 scale → GT7 scale):
  • Nissan Skyline 2000GT-R (KPGC110) 1973: 370 → 396.36.


Supercars

Supercars
BrandModelPP (GT6)PP (GT7)
Aston MartinOne-77 2011580635.89
AmuseS2000 GT1 Turbo 2005594676.46
BugattiVeyron 16.4 2013639652.01
ChevroletCorvette ZR1 (C6) 2009574612.03
ChevroletCorvette C7 2014526575.26
CitroenGT by Citroen Road Car560595.05
DodgeViper SRT10 Coupe 2006534577.93
DodgeViper GTS 2013566603.41
Ferrari430 Scuderia 2007549616.99
Ferrari458 Italia 2009559615.97
FerrariEnzo 2002584648.21
FerrariF40 1992528607.91
FerrariF430 2006540599.37
FordGT 2006567599.22
JaguarXJ220 1992563596.49
LamborghiniAventador LP700-4 2011583621.65
LamborghiniDiablo GT 1999556597.81
LamborghiniGallardo LP 560-4 2008546614.51
LamborghiniMurcielago LP640 2009552603.45
LexusLFA 2010541594.94
McLarenF1 1994608637.79
McLarenMP4-12C 2011581618.72
Mercedes-AMGSLS AMG 2010560590.20
Mercedes-BenzSLR McLaren 2009576598.27
PaganiHuayra 2013623676.01
ShelbyCobra 427 1966536580.39
ToyotaFT-1544600.79

Entry level/the close calls:
BrandModelPP (GT6)PP (GT7)
Alfa Romeo8C Competizione 2008500558.14
AmuseNISMO 380RS SuperLeggera 2008502558.84
AudiR8 4.2 2007516557.67
BMWM3 2007488546.59
BMWZ8 2001485538.30
ChevroletChevelle SS 454 1970479470.75
DodgeChallenger R/T 1970490491.40
DodgeViper GTS 2002516562.51
Ferrari365 GTB4 1971496535.94
FordGT40 Mark I 1966521556.20
LamborghiniCountach LP400 1974510552.11
LamborghiniCountach 25th Anniversary 1988511540.08
LamborghiniMiura P400 Bertone Prototype 1967512561.46
MaseratiGranTurismo S 2008489543.47
Nismo400R 1995487542.50
PlymouthSuperbird 1970480463.80
TeslaModel S Performance 2012492533.86
TVRTuscan Speed 6 2000496571.67

Newcomers (both supercars and the entry level ones):
BrandModelPP
Alfa RomeoGiulia GTAm 2020591.38
Aston MartinDB11 Coupe 2016589.33
Aston MartinV8 Vantage S 2015553.26
AudiR8 V10 Coupe plus 2016629.09
BMWM2 Competition 2018548.81
BMWM4 Coupe 2014562.39
BugattiChiron 2016695.33
ChevroletCamaro SS 2016561.86
ChevroletCamaro ZL1 1LE 2018633.93
ChevroletCorvette C7 ZR1 2019655.47
ChevroletCorvette C8 2020584.48
DodgeCharger SRT Hellcat 2015593.07
DodgeChallenger SRT Demon 2018625.06
FerrariF50 1995611.75
FerrariF8 Tributo 2019686.70
FerrariF12berlinetta 2013638.45
FerrariGTO 1984554.49
FerrariLaFerrari 2013721.95
FordGT 2017629.50
FordMustang GT 2015544.54
FordShelby GT350R 2016570.33
GReddyFugu Z 2015544.07
HondaNSX 2017573.39 (GT6's 2013 NSX Concept PP = 552)
JaguarF-type R 2014581.26
LamborghiniAventador LP750-4 SV 2015662.35
LamborghiniHuracan LP610-4 2015630.29
LamborghiniUrus 2018559.77
LamborghiniVeneno 2013695.96
LexusLC500 2017552.26
LexusRC F 2014557.68
MaseratiMC20 2020618.99
McLaren650S 2014630.63
Mercedes-AMGAMG GT S 2015582.09
Mercedes-AMGAMG GT R 2017605.95
Mercedes-AMGAMG GT Black Series 2020668.81
Mercedes-AMGC63S 2015573.16
NissanGT-R 2017594.28 (GT6's 2012 Black Edition PP = 546)
NissanGT-R Nismo 2017628.33 (GT6's 2014 GT-R Nismo PP = 574)
NissanGT-R Premium edition T-spec 2024594.66
NissanZ Performance 2023550.70
Porsche911 GT3 (996) 2001550.83
Porsche911 GT1 Strassenversion 1997632.23
Porsche911 GT3 RS (997) 2009577.81
Porsche911 GT3 RS (991) 2016641.49
Porsche911 GT3 RS (992) 2022646.87
Porsche918 Spyder 2013688.29
Porsche959 1987567.77
PorscheCarrera GT 2004615.01
PorscheCayman GT4 2016573.29
PorscheTaycan Turbo S 2019604.46
RUFCTR3 2007663.27
RUFRGT 4.2 2016646.99
TeslaModel 3 Performance 2023576.38
ToyotaGR Supra RZ 2019540.90
ToyotaGR Supra RZ 2020549.57

Track-based cars:
BrandModelPP (GT6)PP (GT7)
Aston MartinValkyrie 2021-872.45
Aston MartinVulcan 2016-760.78
FerrariFXX K 2014-778.94
McLarenP1 GTR 2016-791.21
PaganiZonda R 2019630767.27
Porsche917 Living Legend 2013-801.44
RenaultR.S.01 2016-734.60

Ultralight:
BrandModelPP (GT6)PP (GT7)
BACMono 2011-642.65
HondaProject 2&4 powered by RC213V 2015-568.89
KTMX-Bow R 2012555600.62
RadicalSR3 SL 2011-545.72

The PP between the supercars on GT6 sits around 530 (like F40's 528) to 630 PP, though the majority are between around 530-580 PP (cars ranging from lv. 11-15 in GT5), as the ones that had more than 600 are few ones which outclass regular supercars like Huayra. For GT7, it's now sitting around 570-690 PP, with the exception of LaFerrari which outclasses everything (not the track-based cars) at 721.95.

While the cars on the entry level here (I put those there as cars like Viper GTS '02, Countach, and R8 4.2 also can be viewed as supercars by some, and there are several cars around those performance levels even if those aren't viewed as supercars) here had PP ranging from around near 490-520. And in GT7, the PP for those cars is around 530-560 (I'd get below for certain classic cars here).

In general, more cars surpassed 630 PP in this game compared to cars that surpassed 590 PP in GT5/6 before, with more cars above 700hp coming like the Aventador SV, AMG GT Black Series, or F12berlinetta. Though GT7 for now still doesn't have cars in previous games such as Cerbera Speed 12 (618 PP) or even Cien (589 PP, lv. 16).

With cars like One-77, Aventador, and MP4-12C sitting in around 580 PP for GT6 scale and around 620-630 PP for GT7 scale, it seems that around 620-630 would be the equivalent in GT7 for lv. 15 supercars in GT5. The PP of cars like Murcielago LP640 are more average (nearing 560) in GT6 and in GT7 it passes 600, so that'd mean those 2 likely had similar PP scales in both GT6 and GT7 as well (with LP640 being raised a bit perhaps), with LFA sitting in 594.94 for a car with 541 PP in GT6 scale.

Which means some previously higher end PP cars in PS3 (lv. 14-15) like Ford GT '06, SLR McLaren, Viper GTS '13 have their PP rating lowered for GT7, to be around 540-550 range for GT6 scale. There are other lowered cars in SLS as well. In the past I asked about Lamborghini's PP being low (as well as Mercedes being really high), I guess this is addressed in GT7 for the Mercs. NSX 2017's PP here is also really on the lower end unlike NSX Concept 2013 in GT6 before. Cobra 427 is still on supercar level but is downgraded into lower level here at the 580 range.

Now Huracan has higher PP than Aventador. In GT7, 430 Scuderia, 458 Italia, and Gallardo have their PP raised to become closer to higher end supercars, thus Gallardo is now fair bit higher than Murcielago LP640.

Other than Diablo GT or Countach 25th Anniversary, other classics here have really high PP, unlike most of the other classic cars. F40 had its PP significantly raised, from what's originally lower end (like C7 Corvette here) PP in GT6 scaling to around 610 in GT7 scaling (likely in 560 range in GT6 scale), with F50 slightly higher. The 911 GT1 had higher PP than the Carrera GT. Enzo's already been on the higher end in GT6, but now, it's raised even further, surpassing even McLaren F1 (a lv. 17 car in GT5.... tbh I think Enzo's probably overrated here).

While Zonda R had a bit higher PP than Huayra in GT6, it seems that the track-based cars had their PP remarkably raised, now even far higher than the supercars here, sitting at around 760-800 range (even Renault R.S.01 has 734.60). Valkyrie though is far higher than any others. I guess this applies a bit too to road cars like S2000 GT1, 911 GT1 above, or cars like 911 GT3 (991), really high for 491hp car.

Likely for the opposite reason too Veyron's PP is lowered in this game (Huayra rose from 623 to 677, but Veyron had higher than Huayra before in GT6 at 639) with its really weight and cornering. Though still higher than most supercars, now even several supercars around 700hp range beat Veyron like AMG GT Black Series and Corvette C7 ZR1.

The ones that didn't reach 500 PP in GT6 had them mostly sitting at 530 range, while those that reached 500 PP like R8 4.2 had them sitting at 550-560 range previously. Cars like 8C and 380RS had their PP increased to be closer to those 2, but the one that has biggest increase is Tuscan Speed 6, which can almost/reach 570 which'd mean it's higher than the aformentioned R8 too.

Putting ultralight cars here just for a reminder that those cars are way more than their hp number and that X-Bow being OP in GTS was purely due to the N-Class division only taking hp when PP wise X-Bow is on par with supercars, and it applies to Mono and to a lesser extent Project 2&4 and Radical SR3 SL as well.

PP range:
  • GT6:
    • Supercars: near 540-580, can expand higher to 630.
    • Entry level: near 490-520.
  • GT7:
    • Supercars: 570-690, 620 seems to be the equivalent of 580 in GT6, more cars surpassing 630 here.
    • Entry level: 530-560.
Cars with increased PP (speculation, GT6 scale → GT7 scale):
  • Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione 2008: 500 → 557.78.
  • Amuse NISMO 380RS SuperLeggera 2008: 502 → 560.40.
  • Amuse S2000 GT1 Turbo 2005: 594 → 676.46.
  • Ferrari 430 Scuderia 2007: 549 → 616.99.
  • Ferrari Enzo 2002: 584 → 648.21.
  • Ferrari F40 1992: 528 → 607.91.
  • Lamborghini Gallardo LP 560-4 2008: 546 → 614.51.
  • Pagani Zonda R 2019: 630 → 784.71.
  • TVR Tuscan Speed 6 2000: 496 → 571.67.
Cars with decreased PP (speculation, GT6 scale → GT7 scale):
  • Bugatti Veyron 16.4 2013: 639 → 652.01.
  • Chevrolet Chevelle SS 454 1970: 479 → 470.75.
  • (slight) Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 (C6) 2009: 574 → 612.03.
  • Dodge Challenger R/T 1970: 490 → 491.40.
  • Dodge Viper GTS 2013: 566 → 603.41.
  • Ferrari 365 GTB4 1971: 496 → 535.94.
  • Ford GT 2006: 567 → 599.22.
  • Jaguar XJ220 1992: 563 → 596.49.
  • Lamborghini Countach 25th Anniversary 1988: 521 → 540.08.
  • (slight) Lamborghini Diablo GT 1999: 556 → 597.81.
  • Mercedes-AMG SLS AMG 2011: 560 → 590.20.
  • Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren 2009: 576 → 598.27.
  • Plymouth Superbird 1970: 480 → 463.80.
  • Shelby Cobra 427 1966: 536 → 580.39.
  • Tesla Model S Performance 2012: 492 → 533.86.


Race cars (multiple types)

Racecar typeBrandModelPP (GT6)PP (GT7)
DTMAlfa Romeo155 2.5 V6 TI 1993524659.18
Group BPeugeot205 T16 Evolution II Rally Car 1986540658.04
Group CJaguarXJR-9 1988680859.88
Group CMazda787B 1991678839.00
Group CMercedes-BenzSauber C9 1989691849.97
Group CNissanR92CP 1992688847.75
GT1BMWMcLaren F1 GTR Race Car 1997630775.56
GT1Mercedes-AMGCLK LM 1998655794.07
GT1ToyotaGT-One (TS020) 1999667831.63
GT2BMWM3 GT 2011569701.36
GT3BMWZ4 GT3 2011592711.41
GT3Mercedes-AMGSLS AMG GT3 2011610722.84
GT3NissanGT-R Nismo GT3 2013609711.57
LMFordGT LM Race Car Spec II626734.61
LMFordGT LM Spec II Test Car614730.00
LMMcLarenF1 GTR - BMW 1995618742.21
LMPAudiR18 TDI 2011626884.48
LMPNissanGT-R LM NISMO 2015655884.40
LMPPeugeot908 HDI FAP 2010676907.33
LMPToyotaTS030 Hybrid 2012615900.13
Pikes PeakAudiSport quattro S1 Pikes Peak 1987633671.98
Pikes PeakSuzukiV6 Escudo Pikes Peak Special 1998702789.24
Silhouette FormulaNissanSkyline Super Silhouette 1984- (last seen in GT2)696.96
Sports PrototypeChaparral2J 1970663852.18
Sports PrototypeFerrari330 P4 1967591698.71
Sports PrototypeFordMark IV Race Car 1967588674.56
Sports PrototypeJaguarXJ13 1966582675.14
Sports PrototypeShelbyCobra Daytona 1964535549.20
Super GT500HondaNSX GT500 2000560708.37
Super GT500HondaNSX GT500 2008564807.84
Super GT500LexusSC430 GT500 2008571805.68
Super GT500NissanGT-R GT500 1999571703.85
Super GT500NissanGT-R GT500 2008577810.93
Super GT500ToyotaSupra GT500 1997582705.87
WRCToyotaCelica GT-FOUR Rally Car (ST205) 1995482577.95

Newcomers:
Racecar typeBrandModelPP
Drift CarSubaruBRZ Drift Car 2017627.73
DTMAudiRS5 Turbo DTM 2019854.44
DTMAudiTT Cup 2016627.15
Group CPorsche962 C 1988853.06
GT1Aston MartinDBR9 GT1 2010722.68
GT3Aston MartinV12 Vantage GT3 2012716.67
GT3AudiR8 LMS 2015741.35
GT3AudiR8 LMS Evo 2019741.40
GT3BMWM6 GT3 Endurance Model 2016740.08
GT3BMWM6 GT3 Sprint Model 2016740.44
GT3DodgeViper SRT GT3-R 2015744.80
GT3Ferrari458 Italia GT3 2013733.23
GT3LamborghiniHuracan GT3 2015749.30
GT3LexusRC F GT3 2016723.85
GT3LexusRC F GT3 prototype 2016717.54
GT3McLaren650S GT3 2015718.03
GT3Mercedes-AMGAMG GT3 2016739.78
GT3Mercedes-AMGAMG GT3 2020745.87
GT3NissanGT-R Nismo GT3 2018730.45
GT3RenaultR.S.01 GT3 2016724.08
GT4PorscheCayman GT4 Clubsport 2016642.90
GT4ToyotaGR Supra Race Car 2019641.81
IMSAFordGT Race Car 2018725.14
LM-GTEPorsche911 RSR (991) 2017720.61
LM-GTEToyotaGR Supra Racing Concept 2018738.39
LMHToyotaGR010 Hybrid 2021859.18
LMPAudiR18 2016882.26
LMPPorsche919 Hybrid 2016889.29
LMPToyotaTS050 Hybrid 2016882.14
Open WheelGran TurismoF1500T-A934.82 (GT6's Formula GT PP = 880)
Open WheelMcLarenMP4/4 1988898.16
Open WheelSuper FormulaSF19 Super Formula/Honda 2019943.38
Open WheelSuper FormulaSF19 Super Formula/Toyota 2019943.38
Open WheelSuper FormulaSF19 Super Formula/Honda 2023942.74
Open WheelSuper FormulaSF19 Super Formula/Toyota 2023942.74
Pikes PeakVolkswagenID.R 2019854.20
Sports PrototypeAlpineA220 1968578.79
Sports PrototypePorsche917K 1970733.30
Super GT300SubaruBRZ GT300 2021730.13
Super GT500HondaNSX CONCEPT-GT 2016864.49
Super GT500LexusRC F GT500 2016862.86
Super GT500NissanGT-R Nismo GT500 2016863.72
Time AttackSubaruWRX STI Isle of Man 2016678.36
WRCSubaruImpreza Rally Car 1998572.32 (GT6's 1999 ver. = 476)

As it's clearly seen, the race cars have their PP drastically increased in this game. Many race cars in GT6 before had their PP around supercar levels (520-580) like Group B in 540 and Super GT500 (except Z GT500 '06) sitting around 560-580. Or a bit higher than that (but lower than supercars like Huayra) such as GT3 in 590-610 range. Though their lv. to unlock in GT5 was higher than those supercars despite a similar PP range (like Super GT cars are unlocked in lv. 18-20). The exceptions are the race cars that are blatantly superior to supercars or just pretty much most other car type, like Group C (around 670-690).

But now.... hoo boy. GT3 (and other touring divisions except GT4 and GT1) sits around 710-740, old Super GT cars are in around 700, newer Super GT cars are around 800, newer Super GT or DTM cars are around 860, other touring cars like GT4 (CMIIW regarding this division) and DTM are around 650, Group B is around 670 so far (too small examples for now to assume for Pikes Peak or Drift Car), Group C is around 840-850, LMP is around 880-900.

That'd mean supercars that would beat race cars now in PP are similar to the ones that'd beat Veyron above, which'd mean only few newer bigger power (700+hp) ones. And that's for lower level of race cars like DTM. For the rest like GT3, only LaFerrari's the supercar that touched their range. The track day cars like Zonda R or FXX-K seem to have similar increase to race cars here though based on Zonda R's previous GT6 PP (630). Between the tuners at "Other sport JDMs", the track day cars, and all the race cars, seems PP now takes greater significance over track performance (and Racing Soft Tyre is the tuning part that gave biggest increase in PP), and the higher level to unlock race cars in GT5 seem to make more sense here, albeit the PP scale for car types here are different.

I guess despite that all race cars PP are greatly increased, there are some lowered PP for older classics again. Supra GT500 '97 was one of the higher GT500 cars in PP before (582), beating all the GT-R GT500 '08's PP (577). Now the older GT500 cars have significantly lower 700 range PP to newer GT500's 800 range. Newer Super GT300 cars also have surpassed the older GT500 cars too, and on the GT3 level, expected considering the GT300 grid, well BRZ GT300's power is 478hp so it'd be close to Supra GT500 and GT-R GT500 '99 had.

For older classics, now the Group C's PPs are lower than turbocharged Super GT cars and 2J too. Previously, Escudo, CLK, and F1 GTR's PP were on the higher end in the 840-850 range, but now, they have lower PP than the 2008 GT500 cars. McLaren MP4/4 also has a lower PP compared to the F1500T-A (though it previously had a similar PP to MP4/4) and the Super Formula cars. Also now the older GT3 cars have lower PP compared to newer ones (above 2015), the former sitting at 710 range while the latter reaches 740.

So far, the WRC shown in the game are the classics like the Celica ST205 and 1998 Impreza, both have around 570 PP. Probably the newer WRC cars if it'd later come in the game would also have significantly higher PP, going for the pattern here. Though still now old WRC cars are on supercars level instead of being slightly higher than "276hp" JDMs.

Previously, the LMP had quite a high PP that they can surpass F1500T-A, reaching 920-940 range, like TS030 and 919 Hybrid, but all of them are now reduced in only 880-900 range, firmly putting them lower than the open wheel cars.

The drift car in BRZ so far had huge hp, but quite low PP among the race car at 627.73.

PP range:
  • GT6:
    • Super GT500: 560-580.
    • GT3 (and other touring cars): 590-610.
    • Group C: 670-690.
    • GT1: 630-650.
    • LM: 610-620.
    • LMP: 610-670.
    • 3 unicorns: 580-590.
    • DTM: 520 (until 560 in GT6).
    • WRC: 480-490.
    • Group B: 530-540.
    • Open wheel: 870-890.
  • GT7:
    • Super GT500: 800 (newer), 700 (older).
    • Super GT500 (turbocharged) & DTM (newer): around 850-860.
    • Super GT300 (newer), GT3, and other touring cars (including DBR9 type of GT1): 710-740.
    • Group C: 840-850.
    • GT1: 770-790.
    • LM: 750-760.
    • LMP: 880-900.
    • 3 unicorns: 670-690.
    • GT4: around 640.
    • DTM: (so far) 630-670.
    • WRC: (so far, old one) around 570.
    • Group B: (so far) around 650.
    • Open wheel: 980, lowest at 890-910.
NOTE: All race cars have drastically increased PP (also increased to get closer to F1 cars), so the following's talking about the increased/decreased ones compared to the other race cars.

Cars with increased PP (speculation, GT6 scale → GT7 scale):
  • Audi R18 TDI 2011: 626 → 884.48.
  • (slight) BMW Z4 GT3 2011: 592 → 716.33.
  • BMW M3 GT 2011: 567 → 716.57.
  • (slight) Chaparral 2J 1970: 663 → 852.18.
  • Ferrari 330 P4 1967: 591 → 719.21.
  • (slight) Ford GT LM Spec II Test Car: 614 → 757.96.
  • Honda NSX GT500 2008: 564 → 807.84.
  • Lexus SC430 GT500 2008: 571 → 805.68.
  • Nissan GT-R GT500 2008: 577 → 810.93.
  • Nissan GT-R LM NISMO 2015: 655 → 884.40.
  • Peugeot 908 HDI FAP 2010: 676 → 907.33.
  • Toyota TS030 Hybrid 2012: 615 → 900.13.
Cars with decreased PP (speculation, GT6 scale → GT7 scale):
  • BMW McLaren F1 GTR Race Car 1997: 630 → 775.56.
  • Mercedes-AMG CLK LM 1998: 655 → 794.07.
  • Nissan GT-R GT500 1999: 571 → 703.85.
  • Shelby Cobra Daytona 1964: 535 → 549.20.
  • Suzuki V6 Escudo Pikes Peak Special 1998: 702 → 789.24.
  • Toyota Supra GT500 1997: 582 → 705.87.



Cars which info (like PP) hasn't been found yet (at least by me) is left blank temporarily, but the ones that has none (like PP for cars not in GT6) is given '-'. All current cars in GT7 has been collected here, but this'd be continued for newly added cars in the game.

There has been PP updates for the cars. Now it's complete so far, but the PP of the cars that aren't updated yet here would be marked with red color. And also CMIIW if there are PP that I got wrong here.



1/4/2022 (not an April Fools):
  • Added PP for:
    • "Japanese's Gentleman Agreement" (non-JDMs): Renault Clio V6 24V 2000.
    • "Other Sport JDMs": Toyota Sprinter Trueno GT-APEX (AE86) 1983.
    • "Supercars" (entry level): Lamborghini Miura P400 Bertone Prototype CN.0706 1967.
  • New cars added:
    • "Japanese's Gentleman Agreement" (non-JDMs): De Tomaso Mangusta 1969.
    • "Supercars" (entry level): Dodge Challenger R/T 1970.
    • "Supercars" (newcomers): Ferrari GTO 1984.
    • "Supercars" (ultralight): Honda Project 2&4 powered by RC213V 2015.
  • Changed PP for:
    • "Japanese's Gentleman Agreement" (non-JDMs): Ferrari Testarossa 1991.
  • Moved cars:
    • Radical SR3 SL 2011: "Supercars" (ultralight) → "Japanese's Gentleman Agreement" (non-JDMs)
  • Added/changed some of the Evaluation for the new changes.

11/4/2022:
  • Added PP for:
    • "Japanese's Gentleman Agreement": Subaru Impreza Coupe 22B-STi Version 1998.
    • "Japanese's Gentleman Agreement": Toyota MR2 GT-S 1997.
    • "Other Sport JDMs": Nissan Fairlady Z (S30) 240ZG 1971.
    • "Other Sport JDMs" (newcomers): Nissan Fairlady Z 432 1969.
    • "Supercars": Shelby Cobra 427 1966.
    • "Supercars" (entry level): TVR Tuscan Speed Six 2000.
    • "Race cars": BMW McLaren F1 GTR Race Car 1997.
    • "Race cars": Mercedes-AMG CLK LM 1998.
  • Removed cars:
    • "Japanese's Gentleman Agreement" (non-JDMs): BMW M3 1989 (212hp).
  • Added/changed some of the Evaluation for the new changes.

5/5/2022:
  • Added PP for:
    • "Japanese's Gentleman Agreement": Mazda RX500 1970.
    • "Japanese's Gentleman Agreement" (non-JDMs): Chevrolet Corvette Stingray Concept 1959.
    • "Japanese's Gentleman Agreement" (non-JDMs): Chevrolet Corvette Stingray (C3) 1969.
    • "Japanese's Gentleman Agreement" (non-JDMs): Dodge Super Bee 1970.
    • "Other Sport JDMs": Nissan Sileighty 1998.
    • "Other Sport JDMs": Toyota 2000GT 1967.
    • "Other Sport JDMs": Toyota Sprinter Trueno Shuichi Shigeno Edition.
    • "Supercars" (entry level): Lamborghini Countach LP400 1974.
    • "Race cars": Nissan GT-R GT500 1999.
    • "Race cars": Jaguar XJR-9 1988.
    • "Race cars": Mazda 787B 1991.
    • "Race cars": Nissan R92CP 1992.
    • "Race cars": Porsche 962 C 1988.
    • "Race cars": McLaren F1 GTR - BMW 1995.
    • "Race cars" (newcomers): Alpine A220 1968.
  • New cars added:
    • "Japanese's Gentleman Agreement": Subaru BRZ S 2021.
    • "Race cars": Subaru BRZ GT300 2021.
  • Changed PP for:
    • "Supercars": Ferrari Enzo 2002.
  • Added/changed some of the Evaluation for the new changes.

3/12/2022:
  • Changed PPs to an updated one.
  • New cars added:
    • "Japanese's Gentleman Agreement": Genesis G70 3.3T AWD P.Package 2022.
    • "Japanese's Gentleman Agreement": Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 2013.
    • "Japanese's Gentleman Agreement" (non-JDMs): Ferrari 250 GT Berlinetta passo corto 1961.
    • "Japanese's Gentleman Agreement" (non-JDMs): Pontiac GTO 'The Judge' 1969.
    • "Other Sport JDMs": Nissan Silvia K's Aero (S14) 1996.
    • "Other Sport JDMs": Nissan Silvia K's Type S (S14) 1994.
    • "Other Sport JDMs": Nissan Skyline 2000GT-R (KPGC110) 1973.
    • "Supercars" (entry level): Ferrari 365 GTB4 1971
    • "Supercars" (entry level): Plymouth Superbird 1970.
    • "Supercars" (newcomers): Porsche 918 Spyder 2013.
    • "Supercars" (newcomers): Porsche Cayman GT4 2016.
    • "Supercars" (track-based cars): Renault R.S.01 2016.
    • "Race cars": Nissan Skyline Super Silhouette 1984.
    • "Race cars": Suzuki V6 Escudo Pikes Peak Special 1998.
    • "Race cars" (newcomers): Aston Martin V12 Vantage GT3 2012.
    • "Race cars" (newcomers): Lexus RC F GT3 prototype 2016.
    • "Race cars" (newcomers): McLaren MP4/4 1988.
    • "Race cars" (newcomers): Subaru WRX STI Isle of Man 2016.
    • "Race cars" (newcomers): Subaru BRZ Drift Car 2017.
    • "Race cars" (newcomers): Volkswagen ID.R 2019.
  • Moved cars:
    • Toyota GR Supra RZ 2019: "Supercars" (newcomers) → "Japanese's Gentleman Agreement" (newcomers).
    • Radical SR3 SL 2011: "Japanese's Gentleman Agreement" (non-JDMs) → "Supercars" (ultralight).
  • Added/changed some of the Evaluation for the new changes.

4/12/2022:
  • New cars added:
    • "Supercars" (newcomer): BMW M2 Competition 2018.

19/12/2022:
  • New cars added:
    • "Supercars" (newcomers): Alfa Romeo Giulia GTAm 2020.
    • "Supercars" (newcomers): Bugatti Chiron 2016.
    • "Supercars" (newcomers): Chevrolet Corvette C8 Stingray 2020.
    • "Race cars": Toyota Celica GT-FOUR Rally Car (ST205) 1995.
  • Added/changed some of the Evaluation for the new changes.

19/11/2024:
  • Changed PPs to an updated one.
  • Updated some descriptions.
  • Some car name update.
  • Alphabetized racecar type column in "Race cars".
  • New cars added:
    • "Japanese's Gentleman Agreement": Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR GSR 2004.
    • "Japanese's Gentleman Agreement" (newcomers): Toyota GR Corolla MORIZO Edition 2022.
    • "Japanese's Gentleman Agreement" (newcomers): Honda Civic Type R (FL5) 2022.
    • "Japanese's Gentleman Agreement" (newcomers): Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX MR GSR 2006.
    • "Japanese's Gentleman Agreement" (newcomers): Nissan Skyline GT-R Nismo (R32).
    • "Japanese's Gentleman Agreement" (newcomers): Subaru Impreza Sedan WRX STi 2004.
    • "Japanese's Gentleman Agreement" (non-JDMs): Aston Martin DB5 1964.
    • "Japanese's Gentleman Agreement" (non-JDMs): Audi TTS Coupe 2009.
    • "Japanese's Gentleman Agreement" (non-JDMs): BMW M3 1997.
    • "Japanese's Gentleman Agreement" (non-JDMs): Chevrolet Corvette (C1) 1958.
    • "Japanese's Gentleman Agreement" (non-JDMs): De Tomaso Pantera 1971.
    • "Japanese's Gentleman Agreement" (non-JDMs): Jaguar E-type Coupe 1961.
    • "Japanese's Gentleman Agreement" (non-JDMs): Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.5-16 Evolution II 1991.
    • "Japanese's Gentleman Agreement" (non-JDMs): Plymouth XNR Ghia Roadster 1960.
    • "Other Sport JDMs": Honda Civic SiR-II (EG) 1993.
    • "Other Sport JDMs" (newcomers): Mazda Roadster (ND) NR-A 2022.
    • "Supercars": Ferrari 430 Scuderia 2007.
    • "Supercars": Jaguar XJ220 1992.
    • "Supercars": Lamborghini Gallardo LP 560-4 2008.
    • "Supercars": Lexus LFA 2010.
    • "Supercars" (entry level): Chevrolet Chevelle SS 454 1970.
    • "Supercars" (newcomers): Audi R8 V10 Coupe plus 2016.
    • "Supercars" (newcomers): Dodge Challenger SRT Demon 2018.
    • "Supercars" (newcomers): Lamborghini Urus 2018.
    • "Supercars" (newcomers): Maserati MC20 2020.
    • "Supercars" (newcomers): Nissan GT-R Premium edition T-spec 2024.
    • "Supercars" (newcomers): Porsche 911 GT3 RS (992) 2022.
    • "Supercars" (newcomers): Porsche 959 1987.
    • "Supercars" (newcomers): RUF RGT 4.2 2016.
    • "Supercars" (newcomers): Tesla Model 3 Performance 2023.
    • "Supercars" (track-based cars): Aston Martin Valkyrie 2021.
    • "Race cars": Honda NSX GT500 2000.
    • "Race cars": Toyota GT-One (TS020) 1999.
    • "Race cars" (newcomers): Mercedes-AMG AMG GT3 2020.
    • "Race cars" (newcomers): Subaru Impreza Rally Car 1998.
    • "Race cars" (newcomers): Super Formula SF19 Super Formula/Honda 2023.
    • "Race cars" (newcomers): Super Formula SF19 Super Formula/Toyota 2023.
  • Moved cars:
    • Toyota GR Supra RZ 2019: "Japanese's Gentleman Agreement" (newcomers) → "Supercars" (newcomers).
 
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I think a huge question is what tires are used to generate the PP for a car. I think this could explain the jump for many cars. for instance, what if GT6 used the tires that came stock on the car and GT7 uses the best tire available? Not sure that is the case but it might explain some of the change.
 
Previous GT games only took into account aerodynamics, power and weight.

GT7 takes into account everything from tyres (one of the components that impacts PP the most), to suspension settings, to LCD settings, brakes...

The only things it doesn't is Hybrid Power and NOS.
 
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Another update for some new cars. And damn Tuscan Speed 6's PP really skyrocketed...
I think a huge question is what tires are used to generate the PP for a car. I think this could explain the jump for many cars. for instance, what if GT6 used the tires that came stock on the car and GT7 uses the best tire available? Not sure that is the case but it might explain some of the change.
Admittedly, it's true that among the tuning parts, Racing Soft Tyres is the part that gives the biggest PP boost, but like, not as big to bump it from 600 to 800 for instance. To compare with a supercar..... even giving an engine-swapped RX-7 that has 707 PP (989hp, so it's a bit higher than Veneno) the Racing Soft Tyres won't have its PP surpass 2008 Super GT500 (and 707 PP would be significantly higher to GT500's PP on GT6 which is a bit lower than MP4-12C that has 621 in GT7):

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I guess it'd be far more than just tyres, though it can be tried to equip less performance tyres on the race cars.
Previous GT games only took into account aerodynamics, power and weight.

GT7 takes into account everything from tyres (one of the components that impacts PP the most), to suspension settings, to LCD settings, brakes...

The only things it doesn't is Hybrid Power and NOS.
There are more changes that I talk about here other than road car vs race cars, like for example the classic cars which tend to get lowered PP, especially the muscle cars, or some supercars that were kinda overrated in PP before like SLR, or NSX becoming the highest among JDM like GT1, etc. And even among the race cars like Super GT now surpassing a good number of other race cars like GT3.
 
Now all current cars in the game have been added here.

There seems to be changed PP for Enzo (even higher...), lemme know if there are other updated PPs for the cars listed here.
 
Now the thread's updated again after completing the change of the car's PP here to the updated ones. Also added missed cars like Hyundai Genesis and Renault R.S.01.

The Silvias really have big increase huh...
 
Old update that adds almost every car since last update that meets the criteria here and latest PP, but the video about all current 514 car list might be what allows me to follow the latest PP update. Likely only gotta update this thread when there's a full car list video after several updates.

Might make another table about ranking the PP from highest to lowest in each category...

About PP change, GR Supra 2019's back on entry level supercar list, and Escudo, F1 GTR, and CLK-LM really had a hell of reduction....
 
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