Congressman Ron Paul

[YSSMAN]

He states that the only viable candidates are: Thompson, McCain, Romney, Giuliani, and Huckabee.

Personally speaking, even if Ron Paul isn't "viable," I really don't think we should be counting Thompson or Giuliani either. Neither one of them appeal to the vast majority of Republicans, neither one offering radically different alternatives to any of the other candidates. South Carolina and Florida should be the end for both of them, we need to clear out some candidates in the GOP. Getting the Dems focused on Obama and Hillary would be nice as well...

The way I look at it?

- Romney: I haven't seen a Bush 2.0 candidate this bad, well, ever. People say they want to vote for "change," but all he really offers is a mandate that we all spend $300 a month for healthcare which the government might pay us back for. Hes an idiot when it comes to foreign policy, way too "proud" of American power. And really, hes doubting that there is a looming recession? And this guy is running for President?

- McCain: When I met him, he seemed very frail. Hes got some good ideas, and I give him bonus points on the environmental issues (my "three E's" are very important to me), but he loses out on Immigration and Iraq. He may be the best candidate the GOP has, but against Obama, I don't think he stands a chance.

- Huckabee: I have a hard time hating the "populist" candidate. My only fear is that hes a crazy right-winger in hiding, waiting to spring his uber-Christian views on us. One could argue that his foreign policy is crap as well, but it seems hes considering looking for a way out of Iraq, so thats a bonus. He also seems to care about the environment as well, which is another bonus.

- Thomposon: Who let Grandpa out of his room? Why does he repeat everything McCain and Romney says?

- Giuliani: 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11... We get it. I backed you initially, but come-on, you've gotta do more than that..

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Ron Paul probably won't get the nomination, but people are excited about him and politics in general for the first time, and I find that to be a HUGE bonus. He and Obama have been great for the political process, and I wish both of them the best of luck in the future...

 

[FoolKiller]

No.

He states that the only viable candidates are: Thompson, McCain, Romney, Giuliani, and Huckabee.

Hey, the point is that way ----------------------------------->

After calling them the viable candidates he says this about them.

have thrown philosophy to the wind and have focused instead on their sometimes decent plans for fixing local realities, or on a particular stellar quality of their own personality, record, or creed. If these men were running for the job of mayor, state legislator, U.S. senator, or even governor they might be on message. Local jobs need elbow grease.

But the White House needs more than that.

He basically said they don't show any signs of being a good president. THAT is his point. His point is that these guys need to either show they can be a good president and that until that happens voters need to look around some more.

Is Fox News not the fascist propaganda wing of the GOP, serving for the greater good of the American Empire?

Two points.

1) I challenge you to find where I said that.

2) My job involves the news. I have never made a secret of that. In fact, I believe that when I was criticizing Fox I said that because of my job I notice that they and every other outlet are pretty much the same, just different points of view. But, even if I did think Fox was the biggest lump of crap to come out of the mind of Murdoch (which I don't) I would still, because of my job, have to see Fox News. I would have still found this article, which is written as a commentary piece under their Opinions section.

Speaking of the opinion section, I have often defended Fox as having fair news reporting and merely having conservative biased commentary shows, which are not representative of their new reporting because it is not news reporting. In fact, I have defended Fox News on more occasions than I have complained. Honestly, I can't remember complaining until they started putting their commentary reporters up as journalists to cover the debates and then insult viewers by saying they were wrong in their poll findings and then shout down Ron Paul in a post debate interview, or when they began refusing to allow candidates into the debates.





For the record, to make this clear, when given a choice I prefer Fox News for their news reporting. They are slightly more fair than the other networks, studies in media research have shown it. That said, I do not watch their prime time commentary shows, nor any other networks'. I dislike Bill O'Reilly just as much as I dislike Lou Dobbs. I think talking heads serve a purpose as they are the broadcast equivalent to bloggers in that they will pull out facts that don't get mentioned in mainstream reporting. But at the same time the whole point of their show is to be biased, so watching them in hopes of gaining more than two new nuggets of fact a week is pointless. There is nothing worth watching on 24 hour cable news networks after 6:00pm. That is unless you count CNBC, and then everyone should watch Mad Money, because Jim Cramer is pure win.



And I will let you in on a little secret: the home page on my browser, both at home and work, is foxnews.com. OH NOES!!!!! Oh yes, which is why nearly every news article I post on GTP is from foxnews.com.

And I think Fox News was one of Rupert Murdoch's most brilliant business decisions ever. Agree or disagree with his politics you cannot deny that. And anyone who knows about Murdoch also knows that it was just that, a business decision. There was an untapped market in news media and he went for it. That is why the tone of his Fox broadcast network is the exact opposite. It started as one of the most immoral, non-family oriented networks out there.

My complaint about Fox News is that in this primary election they have let their journailistic integrity and ethics slip. Nothing more.

 

[YSSMAN]

w00t! Ron Paul finishes second in Nevada!!!

No, its not a huge win, but it goes to show that his ideas do have legs. Hes outdone the "leading candidate" Rudy Giuliani everywhere he has gone, and that is still news in of itself. I'm surprised by the strong finish by Romney in Nevada, but he really blew it out in South Carolina. Huckabee has been finishing consistently, and thats a good thing, but his "populist" stances can only get you so far...

 

[Azuremen]

What is scaring me is how well Romney is doing. Ron Paul might be getting second and doing much better than expected in the primaries, but look at how many delegates Romney has picked up compared to Paul. Something needs to change soon, or else Romney will get the GOP ticket.

 

[Omnis]

Actually, Nevada can't finalize delegates yet or else they'd face penalties. I believe most counties either have Ron Paul or Willard as the winners.

 

[YSSMAN]

I'm sure that would throw quite a few folks off in Ron Paul took the most delegates. That being said, Romney still has a HUGE lead over McCain (and the rest) in the total count. That, unfortunately, may prove to be problematic later on...

But hey, if Romney gets the nomination, I'll be happy to leave my party and vote for Obama (assuming of course he can topple Hillary).

 

[Joey D]

As of right now I don't really want to vote for any of them, it's pretty clear Paul will not get the nod which I was expecting. The rest of them are just 'meh'.

 

[Omnis]

Pretty clear? What are you talking about? There have only been 6 primaries out of 50. Paul is second in Nevada and won West Virginia.

 

[YSSMAN]

When did they have the West Virgina primary?

 

[Joey D]

Pretty clear? What are you talking about? There have only been 6 primaries out of 50. Paul is second in Nevada and won West Virginia.

Eh I just don't know, he's not getting a lot of votes even with getting second the number was disappointedly low. Trust me I really like Paul and I think he is the best choice, but I just don't see him beating out the more popular McCain or Romney.

 

[Bones Brigade]

When did they have the West Virgina primary?

that would be May 13th, 2008.

maybe what omnis meant is that the other republicans decided to concede WV to paul?

or he has future vision.