Conservatism



"'Drag show' means a show or performance for entertainment at which a single performer or group of performers dress in clthing and use makeup and other physical markers opposite of the performer's or group of performers' gender at birth to exaggerate gender signifiers and roles and engage in singing, dancing or a monologue skit in order to entertain an audience of two or more people."

That's what's being deemed obscenity to justify prohibition. But there is no justification as there is no legitimate harm. It's purely expressive acts of which these rats disapprove. Absolute insanity.
 
When did Arizona because such a terrible place? Is it because it's full of boomers from the North who want to escape snow? I assume that's Florida's problem to a degree as well.
 
Here's a house that just came on the market locally that has deeply impressed me. In a style I would call Pompous Faux Historical, it is a 4,540 sq ft house with every possible mod con. It's in a new small "sub-division" with similarly large houses ... but all on tiny lots. I'm fascinated to see who might shell out so much money to buy a house like that, with practically no outdoor space or privacy.
For a house of that size, that is practically no outdoor space. For the common pleb that's a great amount of outdoor space. They have a covered and uncovered area to relax outside.
 
c9cf0d44-9d76-4cd9-96b5-87e980a01637_text.gif


That house is so unbelievably over-done. I'm sure it cost them a lot to over-do.
 
Here's a house that just came on the market locally that has deeply impressed me. In a style I would call Pompous Faux Historical, it is a 4,540 sq ft house with every possible mod con. It's in a new small "sub-division" with similarly large houses ... but all on tiny lots. I'm fascinated to see who might shell out so much money to buy a house like that, with practically no outdoor space or privacy.

In the Greater Vancouver area, mansions on small lots are very common. It is mainly absentee foreign investors that build/purchase them. The goal is to increase the value of the property to receive a greater amount of profit when they sell it. Houses are just trading commodities to them. Can also be people that want to show off their wealth and social status while having a low-maintenance yard.

Most Vancouverites have given up on the hope of ever finding an affordable house in the area in their lifetime, and are instead looking eastwards, but even in Kelowna BC the average price is around 700k CAD. Chilliwack is similar.
 


"'Drag show' means a show or performance for entertainment at which a single performer or group of performers dress in clthing and use makeup and other physical markers opposite of the performer's or group of performers' gender at birth to exaggerate gender signifiers and roles and engage in singing, dancing or a monologue skit in order to entertain an audience of two or more people."

That's what's being deemed obscenity to justify prohibition. But there is no justification as there is no legitimate harm. It's purely expressive acts of which these rats disapprove. Absolute insanity.

Isn't it Iran who are supposed to have morality police? Republicans have picked up another trick from a supposed enemy.
 


"'Drag show' means a show or performance for entertainment at which a single performer or group of performers dress in clthing and use makeup and other physical markers opposite of the performer's or group of performers' gender at birth to exaggerate gender signifiers and roles and engage in singing, dancing or a monologue skit in order to entertain an audience of two or more people."

That's what's being deemed obscenity to justify prohibition. But there is no justification as there is no legitimate harm. It's purely expressive acts of which these rats disapprove. Absolute insanity.

Damn, Cawthorn won't ever be able to have fun in Arizona again.
FQ-l-2WXoAMDKQN
 
Easier for Brazil to now just tell Bolsonaro to stay in Orlando as he's not in the country.

It's better to extradite him to pay for his crimes here. His flight (with the presidential plane, btw) to Trump's lap is part of the strategy to keep his fascist militancy always engaged, without seeming like he is what encourages the terrorists. He keeps posting like he still is the president in Twitter, LinkedIn, Telegram and other social medias, for example.
 
Last edited:
And this feels like why letting Trump suffer no consequence is such a danger. If one of biggest nations on earth is allowing a former President to act the way he does, it only encourages other deranged leaders to think about doing similar actions, leaders who aren’t actual dummies.
 
Trumpism, man.

Fk0dom8WYAExmNB.jpeg


"Wait more 72 hours"

*Between the election and Lulas inauguration, Bolsonaristas camped in front of military installations demanding a coup. The joke is that they always said (between many other fake news and desperate lunacies) that if you stayed another 72 hours the armed forces would act, which lasted... 2 months.
 
How are they doing at the moment? Is this coup attempt succeeding or floundering?
 
Well, their copycat attempt was dumber than January 6th, it seems:

They're working on the assumption that this will motivate the army to rise up and join them and take control, which given Brazil's history is not a wild idea. The army just seems to have zero appetite for it this time, likely as the US and UK aren't supporting and bankrolling this one.
 
Last edited:
It's better to extradite him to pay for his crimes here. His flight (with the presidential plane, btw) to Trump's lap is part of the strategy to keep his fascist militancy always engaged, without seeming like he is what encourages the terrorists. He keeps posting like he still is the president in Twitter, LinkedIn, Telegram and other social medias, for example.
He can't come back... he has a stomach ache!

 
Last edited:
How are they doing at the moment? Is this coup attempt succeeding or floundering?

As expected, it failed miserably. Not only it blatantly showed that they are a far-right movement (cynically there were people that kept the "but both sides" narrative while they kept chanting for a military coup), but also the response and the backlash were enormous:

- Immediately, the president declared Federal Intervention in the Federal District state security, which effectively removed the power of the State Governor in that area until Jan 31. This required a vote in congress (and it was symbolically accepted by both chambers, meaning that no party opposed and it didn't require an official vote).

- Simultaneously, the Governor was removed for 90 days by the Supreme Court. He downplayed every warning of unrest, and his negligence was militant. For example, he hired the former president's Justice Minister to work as his Justice Secretary, and the crook immediately went... To Florida (and has an arrest warrant pending now). But also, undeniably, the Police were complacent with the lunatics, not only escorting them to the place but taking selfies and chatting with them while they were chanting fascist mottos and anti-democratic demands. Only when the vandalism escalated they realize what they were really doing...

- 300 were arrested on site, plus 1200 at the Brasilia camp. These camps stayed for two months in front of the barracks countrywide, with great complacency from the military. Now they are officially obliged to leave by court.

- The entire press, including the corporate, stopped calling them protesters and started treating them like terrorists. And they're showing who was there and escaped, to be prosecuted too.

- The investigations will not only focus on the vandals but also on who financed and encouraged the violence and the attempt to break public order (our Tucker Carlsons, Laura Ingrahams, Jeanine Pirros and Sean Hannitys are scared right now...)

- Even the Attorney General, who prevaricated in all the crimes of the previous government, condemned and supported the investigations.

- There were public demonstrations of support and union for the new government, including the three powers, all the governors, and related associations. Their stupidity isolated Bolsonaro with his extremists.
They're working on the assumption that this will motivate the army to rise up and join them and take control, which given Brazil's history is not a wild idea. The army just seems to have zero appetite for it this time, likely as the US and UK aren't supporting and bankrolling this one.

- Our military has a great instruction flaw, making themselves believe that they are tutors (or superiors) of civilians. Even so, institutions and even non-fascist militaries would repress any attempt to break the order. No one would support them now, differently from other events. But undeniably, Bolsonaro took advantage of this problem to politicize the security forces, including using them to attack the elections and the results.

He can't come back... he has a stomach ache!



Every time this spineless crook feels pressure, he goes to a hospital to play advertising via compassion. (Don't) Google Image Bolsonaro in Hospital, and you will see it...
 
"'Drag show' means a show or performance for entertainment at which a single performer or group of performers dress in clthing and use makeup and other physical markers opposite of the performer's or group of performers' gender at birth to exaggerate gender signifiers and roles and engage in singing, dancing or a monologue skit in order to entertain an audience of two or more people."

That's what's being deemed obscenity to justify prohibition. But there is no justification as there is no legitimate harm. It's purely expressive acts of which these rats disapprove. Absolute insanity.
We had some drag artists come to my workplace for a pride event and you really do have to be careful with them because they're dangerous; I actually hurt myself from smiling and laughing so much for the entire event.
 


"'Drag show' means a show or performance for entertainment at which a single performer or group of performers dress in clthing and use makeup and other physical markers opposite of the performer's or group of performers' gender at birth to exaggerate gender signifiers and roles and engage in singing, dancing or a monologue skit in order to entertain an audience of two or more people."

That's what's being deemed obscenity to justify prohibition. But there is no justification as there is no legitimate harm. It's purely expressive acts of which these rats disapprove. Absolute insanity.

This was a great piece on the proposed bill above.

Be warned there's profanity in the article proper (censored below) should you decide to visit the page linked here, and you ought to because there's links that I've omitted as well as a full copy of the bill introduced to the Arizona state legislature, plus Techdirt is a good outlet deserving of clicks.

Trying to legislate sexual identity is a fool’s errand. Plenty of Arizona state fools are backing a bill that attempts to do that, though. When you can’t figure out how to stop people from outward displays of their sexual identity, you start getting unconstitutional in a hurry.

This bill — now being booted about by the Arizona state legislature — is an unconstitutional mess. The First Amendment right to freely associate is on the chopping block here. The law — highlighted by Erin Reed on Twitter — proposes the state government should be able to tell people how they can dress, depending on who they associate with and (squints at bill [PDF]) when they do it.

The bill is a “response” to an overblown concern by performative hystericists — people who somehow believe the (ultra-rare) appearance of drag queens (to use the legislators’ preferred taxonomy) at public venues somehow presents an issue worth violating the First Amendment to address. These fears of “indoctrination” (which apparently involves showing children sexuality isn’t binary ¯\(ツ)/¯) have prompted legislators to get stupid. Behold the unconstitutional mess Arizona legislators are pushing forward — one that would basically criminalize plenty of non-“drag queens at libraries” activities.

The proposed law suggests so-called “drag queens” obtain licenses from the state to perform. Then it limits where they can perform, using language that would outlaw plenty of non-drag queen activity. Please pardon the all-caps, something demanded by the printed copies of proposed alterations to established laws. (Cromulent parts embiggened by the author of this post.)
“DRAG PERFORMER” MEANS A PERSON WHO DRESSES IN CLOTHING AND USES MAKEUP AND OTHER PHYSICAL MARKERS OPPOSITE OF THE PERSON’S GENDER AT BIRTH TO EXAGGERATE GENDER SIGNIFIERS AND ROLES AND ENGAGES IN SINGING, DANCING OR A MONOLOGUE OR SKIT IN ORDER TO ENTERTAIN AN AUDIENCE.

“DRAG SHOW” MEANS A SHOW OR PERFORMANCE FOR ENTERTAINMENT AT WHICH A SINGLE PERFORMER OR GROUP OF PERFORMERS DRESS IN CLOTHING AND USE MAKEUP AND OTHER PHYSICAL MARKERS OPPOSITE OF THE PERFORMER’S OR GROUP OF PERFORMERS’ GENDER AT BIRTH TO EXAGGERATE GENDER SIGNIFIERS AND ROLES AND ENGAGE IN SINGING, DANCING OR A MONOLOGUE OR SKIT IN ORDER TO ENTERTAIN AN AUDIENCE OF TWO OR MORE PEOPLE.
LOL

WTAF

First off, the **** does “gender at birth” even mean? There’s fluidity in gender and what may be present on a birth certificate doesn’t solidify a person’s gender identity for the rest of their life. And how will law enforcement confirm “opposite of the person’s gender at birth?” Will Arizona residents now be required to carry around their birth certificates in addition to other forms of ID to avoid being rung up on drag queen charges (or whatever the ****)?

That’s just the logistics side. Then there’s the common sense side. This law, if passed, would outlaw a great deal of heretofore considered “normal” behavior, especially in the field of artistic expression. I mean, if you need to find a marshal for your parade of horrors, there’s no better option than Rudy Giuliani, who once appeared in drag at a charity dinner (for more than two people), an event subsequently covered by TV reporters, spreading his illegal (under this bill) transgression to a wider audience.



The law says a performance like Giuliani’s must be restricted to adult entertainment venues (nightclubs, strip clubs) and only at certain hours legislators think are acceptable for hobnobbing with a future president.
A DRAG SHOW SHALL NOT BE CONDUCTED BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 1:00 A.M. AND 8:00 A.M. ON MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY AND BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 1:00 A.M. AND 12:00 NOON ON SUNDAY.
Yep. Can’t have churchgoers being outshone by men who wear their Sunday best dresses better than Arizona’s perpetually angry Republican housewives.

Under this bill, things that compose a vast amount of pop culture history would be treated as illegal. The legislators backing this bill apparently feel the state would be better off by cutting itself out of the artistic loop. “Dressed in clothing and physical markers opposite of gender at birth” would turn Arizona into a state that can’t stomach Robin William’s performance in “Mrs. Doubtfire” or Diane Keaton’s wardrobe choices in “Annie Hall.” Disney’s “Mulan” violates the law. So does the classic film “Some Like It Hot.” With a law like this in place, Tom Hanks would likely never have become a star.

It also would make about 70% of influential sketch troupe Kids In The Hall’s output illegal. (Lord only knows where the “Chicken Lady” fits on the “opposite gender” continuum created by this proposal…)



Yeah, it’s a proposed amendment to address the “dogs participating in co-living arrangements with cats” hypothetical suggested by a very unserious scientist when a portal ushering in a hellish invasion threatened New York City back in 1984.

Hopefully, this won’t become law. But this is Arizona we’re talking about, so pretty much anything is possible. What won’t happen is the law surviving a constitutional challenge, considering it restricts how people can dress, who they can associate with, and when they can do it. There is literally no legitimate government interest being served here. There’s only the interests of people who fear things they don’t immediately understand. And that’s not enough to allow the state to inflict massive damage on residents’ First Amendment rights.
 
Last edited:
This was a great piece on the proposed bill above.

Be warned there's profanity in the article proper (censored below) should you decide to visit the page linked here, and you ought to because there's links that I've omitted as well as a full copy of the bill introduced to the Arizona state legislature, plus Techdirt is a good outlet deserving of clicks.

A transgender performer makes any show a drag show under this description.
 
This was a great piece on the proposed bill above.

Be warned there's profanity in the article proper (censored below) should you decide to visit the page linked here, and you ought to because there's links that I've omitted as well as a full copy of the bill introduced to the Arizona state legislature, plus Techdirt is a good outlet deserving of clicks.

Perhaps you should have added a trigger warning about the right wing "drag is blackface" troll infesting the comments section.

Kidding but I think Poe's Law may apply although I find it hard to comprehend how, if it's a hoax, anyone sane could express views like his without breaking down in insane laughter.
 
Last edited:
Perhaps you should have added a trigger warning about the right wing "drag is blackface" troll infesting the comments section.

Kidding but I think Poe's Law may apply although I find it hard to comprehend how, if it's a hoax, anyone sane could express views like his without breaking down in insane laughter.
Yeah, I don't read the comments. They're not as bad as those on Reason, but they're bad.
 
Expressive rights? No.
Associative rights? No.
Parental rights? No.
Individual rights? No.

All absent indication of specific, legitimate harm.

Mental. Illness.
This is the point in the conversation when all the taters and muskrats wheel out some cherrypicked explicit drag revue which probably would have already been covered by existing laws even if it were shown to minors. This whole don't say drag thing is bad-faith, authoritarian bull ****, tailored towards grievance-addicted rage junkies desperate to justify their support of the erosion of American democracy.
 
Last edited:
Back