Creation vs. Evolution

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Too late for what?

I asked a very simple question about the terminology. I had zero agenda with that question. It seems impossible to avoid confrontation in this section of the forum. I guess I should have prefaced the question with a bowing down to all of the authoritative knowledge held by the all-knowing pillars of the opinions forum section.

The arrogance in this place stinks.
 
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You asked the question:

Is it? Then why is it still called the "theory" of evolution? I'm not trying to back up creationism, btw.

Which implies that a "Theory" is lesser than something else.

There's nothing higher in the pecking order than "Theory". Perhaps we should blame popular culture and language for popularizing the saying "I have a theory!", because most times people really mean: "I have a hypothesis."

It's a common mistake, and ground that has been covered here many times (probably once every fifty posts), which is why some people aren't happy when the question comes up again.
 
Perhaps we should blame popular culture and language for popularizing the saying "I have a theory!", because most times people really mean: "I have a hypothesis."
I blame popular culture for that too, because when people say "I have a hypothesis." they always mean "I have an hypothesis.".

Bloody language drift. I blame American television.
 
Too late for what?

I asked a very simple question about the terminology. I had zero agenda with that question. It seems impossible to avoid confrontation in this section of the forum. I guess I should have prefaced the question with a bowing down to all of the authoritative knowledge held by the all-knowing pillars of the opinions forum section.

The arrogance in this place stinks.

You asked about the terminology ("Ï'm supposed to know this?") after you'd used the term ("why is it the theory?")

You misused the term, then asked why it's wrong when you were called on it. That's why it's too late.
 
You misused the term, then asked why it's wrong when you were called on it. That's why it's too late.

No. Once again, you people in here suit yourselves when it comes to chronological order of events and peoples' intentions. The very first words 'out of my mouth' were:

Is it? Then why is it still called the "theory" of evolution? I'm not trying to back up creationism, btw.

That is not a misuse of the term. It's a question regarding the terminology itself. If I was intending to use the term, then I wouldn't have used the parentheses. I put those in there for a reason. And why did I add the comment about creationism? To show that I wasn't in here to argue against the theory.
 
The wording "why is it still called a Theory" is suggestive of the possibility that a "Theory" is a halfway house on the road to somewhere else. It isn't.

As explained, that word doesn't exactly mean what most people think it means.
 
Bye Ya, if you were actually asking for the definition of the word theory then your defense of yourself has merit.

If you were actually asking for the definition of the word theory then you would be the first one in the entire 8100+ posts to have done so.

No, your question, very clearly (because of what you quoted when made this post,) was along the lines of "Why do you guys treat this is fact when it's just a "theory?" which is a gross misuse of the word.

When that was pointed out, you then made the comment "I'm supposed to know that?"

Moving on, hopefully......
 
No, your question, very clearly (because of what you quoted when made this post,) was along the lines of "Why do you guys treat this is fact when it's just a "theory?" which is a gross misuse of the word.


My question, more specifically, was: "Why are facts then called theories in science, and vice versa?"
 
Here you go, Bye Ya:

The Oxford English Dictionary gives two meanings (actually more, but these are the two that matter here).

Theory, Sense 1: A scheme or system of ideas or statements held as an explanation or account of a group of facts or phenomena; a hypothesis that has been confirmed or established by observation or memory, and is propounded or expended as accounting for the known facts; a statement of what are held to be the general laws, principles, or causes of something known or observed.

Theory, Sense 2: A hypothesis proposed as an explanation; hence, a mere hypothesis, speculation, conjecture; an idea or set of ideas about something; an individual view or notion.

- Richard Dawkins, The Greatest Show on Earth
 
Facts aren't called theories.

In science, facts are called data.

Explanations for the data are called hypotheses.

Explanations for the data that match the data already collected and which match any further data collected in attempts to verify it become Theories.


I blame popular culture for that too, because when people say "I have a hypothesis." they always mean "I have an hypothesis.".

Bloody language drift. I blame American television.

Weesa owns the language now. Aluminum! Aluminum! Aluminum!
 
Are there not also things called Laws in science?

Yes. They're generally used to describe certain processes. Laws of motion, laws of thermodynamics. "If [something] happens then [something else] happens/cannot happen". That sort of thing.
 
Adding to HFS's post, laws are basically math that fits observations.

For example, conservation of mass doesn't just say mass can't be created or destroyed, but that within some volume the change of mass is equal to the amount of mass lost/created* in that volume and the flux of mass through the boundary of the volume.

*As long as the volume isn't all of existence, this doesn't have to be zero.
 
And before anyone asks, there are laws for Evolution. They're called the Laws of Genetics.
 
If I walk into a dark room with no windows, it will always be dark until someone installs a window or a light bulb. Imagine the dark room as the universe before there was a universe at all. No air, no molecules or atoms, no gravity.

Now, how did the dark room become lit without someone coming by to install a window or a light bulb?
 
Invalid analogy. Pre big bang was not a big empty space, as space itself did not even exist.

Off-topic. The thread is about Evolution vs. Creationism, not Big Bang vs. Let there be light.
 
If I walk into a dark room with no windows, it will always be dark until someone installs a window or a light bulb. Imagine the dark room as the universe before there was a universe at all. No air, no molecules or atoms, no gravity.

Now, how did the dark room become lit without someone coming by to install a window or a light bulb?

Never mind who installed the light bulb. Please find me a fusion-powered light bulb that burns for ten billion years.
 
If I walk into a dark room with no windows, it will always be dark until someone installs a window or a light bulb. Imagine the dark room as the universe before there was a universe at all. No air, no molecules or atoms, no gravity.

Now, how did the dark room become lit without someone coming by to install a window or a light bulb?

Question is answered in this thread (I did note the time stamps and realize you only got answered after posting it in both threads)
 
Sorry if this one has been covered,but:
If we are to believe the abrahamic version of creation, god created man in his image and then created woman as a companion, right? And we are all basically the same as Adam and Eve. So why do men have nipples?
 
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Because God did.. logically.

So, the quetion then is, why did God have nipples?

Because god is clearly a woman. Why else would she have put the family jewels on the outside, where they are so easily whacked, snagged, or otherwise damaged in comedy manners.
 
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