D1 Liberty Walk Murcielago

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Daigo Saito never ceases to amaze me with his increasingly insane car choices. If this becomes true, we may be witnessing the most expensive D1GP season in history! Imamura uses a LF-A, Saito wants a Lambo? What's next? Manabu Orido showing up in a Huracan?
 
I feel like D1 lost track of it's roots, I mean seriously? Supercars? Shouldn't it be like relatively good priced sports cars as in Silvia, gt 86 and so on. Maybe they should do an own class for supercars. Call it SCD (SuperCarDrifting).
 
D1 with a little twist of Gran Touring and FIA-GT? :sly:

If that happens, everybody will run GT-3 cars and god knows what else... :crazy: :lol:

I feel like D1 lost track of it's roots, I mean seriously? Supercars? Shouldn't it be like relatively good priced sports cars as in Silvia, gt 86 and so on. Maybe they should do an own class for supercars. Call it SCD (SuperCarDrifting).

Well, it is an unique approach to a drifting championship, I'll give it that. Where else, outside of Dubai (where drivers usually have more money that driving skills), will you see an old AE86 powersliding in tandem with a LFA? Hard to find a place like that...

But yeah, could both these guys, Saito and Imamura, run these beasts for the whole season? I don't think even Saito would be crazy enough to powerslide a long supercar on the tight roads at Ebisu. Or would he?
 
I could care less about heritage. Watching a Lamborghini and an LFA tandem drift is a spectacle I just realized I need to see.

Maybe you don't but others do. Then again I'd love to see an LFA and Aventador drift so the most appropriate thing would be to make a new group like I said and everyone would be happy
 
Maybe you don't but others do. Then again I'd love to see an LFA and Aventador drift so the most appropriate thing would be to make a new group like I said and everyone would be happy

Problem is, for a new series there needs to be more interest by the audience and other drivers. If only two drivers compete in such a category, it'll go badly fast. And besides, we don't know if these cars will do the whole season, or just select races. Heck, we don't even know if Daigo will actually race the Lambo!
 
Problem is, for a new series there needs to be more interest by the audience and other drivers. If only two drivers compete in such a category, it'll go badly fast. And besides, we don't know if these cars will do the whole season, or just select races. Heck, we don't even know if Daigo will actually race the Lambo!
Yeah, yeah I know what you mean, but honestly who wouldn't want to see supercar drifts, that would be so awesome! The only reason why they shouldn't compete with other d1 cars is that they most likely fail on every level possible so that would be a shame and waste of good fap material...
 
Yeah, yeah I know what you mean, but honestly who wouldn't want to see supercar drifts, that would be so awesome! The only reason why they shouldn't compete with other d1 cars is that they most likely fail on every level possible so that would be a shame and waste of good fap material...

I know that it would be a dream showdown, to see professional drifters drifting the most expensive super cars in history. But it is just that, a dream. It would be awesome, I agree, but it's a tricky thing to do...
 
I feel like D1 lost track of it's roots, I mean seriously? Supercars? Shouldn't it be like relatively good priced sports cars as in Silvia, gt 86 and so on. Maybe they should do an own class for supercars. Call it SCD (SuperCarDrifting).

Those Silvias and GT86s are far from Silvias and GT86s on the inside these days... this is big money business. Might as well splurge on something crazy and get a shedload of exposure.
 
Those Silvias and GT86s are far from Silvias and GT86s on the inside these days... this is big money business. Might as well splurge on something crazy and get a shedload of exposure.
Well maybe you're right but come on it still feels somewhat wrong to have supercars against highly tuned sportscars against each other, it feels wrong... So wrong
 
Maybe you don't but others do. Then again I'd love to see an LFA and Aventador drift so the most appropriate thing would be to make a new group like I said and everyone would be happy

Drifting "Heritage" is a hilarious concept. The concept is only a couple decades old.

The Silvias and Mustangs that were being run in D1 already cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to maintain. Who would've guessed that 1000hp race cars that go through piles of tires at a time would be expensive? The base car is a minor cost compared to all the other things they go through.

It's time to stop pretending that the high tier drifters are just an extension of the low cost hobby that many participate in. It's a professional motorsport just like any other.
 
Drifting "Heritage" is a hilarious concept. The concept is only a couple decades old.

The Silvias and Mustangs that were being run in D1 already cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to maintain. Who would've guessed that 1000hp race cars that go through piles of tires at a time would be expensive? The base car is a minor cost compared to all the other things they go through.

It's time to stop pretending that the high tier drifters are just an extension of the low cost hobby that many participate in. It's a professional motorsport just like any other.
I never said that d1 is not a professional sport, maybe you got me wrong there.

Even if drifting heritage is only a couple of decades old it still should be like it was before.

I mean I do get that drift cars cost as much as every other class, I know that only the base cars might be cheap. I didn't mean that drift cars supossed to be cheap. It's just that up until now drifters had only "appropriate" cars for the D1 GP, until now.

Like I said I'd live to see a supercar drift championship it's not that I don't like the idea. It should be different classes that's what I'm trying to say
 
Probably time to start a new series... a "Classic Drift" event.

Because, let's face it... there's only so much you can do to twenty year old sports cars to make them competitive before you end up with what are basically silhouette racers.

And rules that are seeking to prevent silhouette cars will only drive people towards cars that can go that extra mile.

Not surprised people are moving to newer cars for the professional events. Better unibodies. More room for suspension development. More sponsor opportunities... that last part helps them control costs. A lot of people would like their name on a D1GP Murcie. Or an LFA. Or...

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Also... if Daigo is drifting that, it's possible it wasn't 100% when they started on it. I can imagine you could buy a flooded or blown Murcie for very little, even in Japan.

http://readytofix.com/Inventory/Lamborghini--Murcielago.htm

I'd take a flooded car, sell the engine for scraps, swap in something that doesn't cost a fortune to maintain (LS? :lol: JZ? :dopey: ), with a race-ready gearbox, and go for it.

I imagine there's lots to do to make it ready. Cut weight and AWD. Develop the suspension. Figure out how to get a thousand horses under the rear hatch without it overheating during a battle...
 
I'd take a flooded car, sell the engine for scraps, swap in something that doesn't cost a fortune to maintain (LS? :lol: JZ? :dopey: ), with a race-ready gearbox, and go for it.

I imagine there's lots to do to make it ready. Cut weight and AWD. Develop the suspension. Figure out how to get a thousand horses under the rear hatch without it overheating during a battle...

It sounds like a great idea, but that list of wrecked cars broke my heart. :(
 
I never said that d1 is not a professional sport, maybe you got me wrong there.

Even if drifting heritage is only a couple of decades old it still should be like it was before.

I mean I do get that drift cars cost as much as every other class, I know that only the base cars might be cheap. I didn't mean that drift cars supossed to be cheap. It's just that up until now drifters had only "appropriate" cars for the D1 GP, until now.

Like I said I'd live to see a supercar drift championship it's not that I don't like the idea. It should be different classes that's what I'm trying to say

I don't see what about a fully caged turbo LS3 S14 with 1000hp is "appropriate" that a similar Lamborghini doesn't have.
 
I don't see what about a fully caged turbo LS3 S14 with 1000hp is "appropriate" that a similar Lamborghini doesn't have.
It's Image. A Lamborghini has the Image of a stupidly designed car that is a template for your usual car porn, while on the other hand a Silvia has the Image of a relatively sensible sports car that was converted to a race car.

It's not illegal to use a Lamborghini in D1 as long as it meets regulations, which aren't really strict frankly, but it still is strange considering that Silvias were practictly made for drifting, while Lamborghinis usually are more suited for GT racing.

It also would be a strange sight between all the othe D1 cars. It's not illegal but strange, and don't get me started on the AWD drivetrain. FR is usually best suited for drifting, that's why you see mostly Silvias Mustangs and Gt 86s in D1.

It's like with that old 6 wheeled formula 1 car (forgot the name). It wasn't illegal but just strange. Not to mention it was poor on every level, but the idea was great. Shame that there isn't a formula 6 lol.

That's just my opinion mate nothing else, I'm just trying to tell you that, you know. And I respect yours to:)
 
You know, this could be the ultimate drifting strategy. Have a car that's so expensive that no one else will dare hit it by accident.
 
It's Image. A Lamborghini has the Image of a stupidly designed car that is a template for your usual car porn, while on the other hand a Silvia has the Image of a relatively sensible sports car that was converted to a race car.

The sport has been high budget for years. Any image of affordability and sensibility has been skin deep for a while.

It's not illegal to use a Lamborghini in D1 as long as it meets regulations, which aren't really strict frankly, but it still is strange considering that Silvias were practictly made for drifting, while Lamborghinis usually are more suited for GT racing.

Not really.

Almost none of the cars in the sport were made for drifting. It just hasn't been a recognized part of car culture for long. You could maybe argue the GT86 had drifting in mind.

It also would be a strange sight between all the othe D1 cars. It's not illegal but strange, and don't get me started on the AWD drivetrain. FR is usually best suited for drifting, that's why you see mostly Silvias Mustangs and Gt 86s in D1.

All FD cars are RWD

We've had RWD Skylines for ages. There's nothing new here except maybe the mid engines layout.

It's like with that old 6 wheeled formula 1 car (forgot the name). It wasn't illegal but just strange. Not to mention it was poor on every level, but the idea was great. Shame that there isn't a formula 6 lol.

I believe that was because the Tyrell sucked as well as the rule changes. Formula D is not F1, it's a sport about spectacle, not performance.

That's just my opinion mate nothing else, I'm just trying to tell you that, you know. And I respect yours to:)

No problem.
 
Remember when "drifting" just meant you and your idiot friends took one of your idiot friends' Camaro out for an afternoon?
 
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don't get me started on the AWD drivetrain

Please. Don't start.

However suited or not AWD is to drifting (and the only reason it isn't used is because it is illegal, and it achieves wildly different angles, which makes tandem difficult in competition), that car is likely to be converted to RWD for competition.

As I've said, won't be surprised if that's a junked Murcie with the entire V12 AWD drivetrain torn out and a more suitable one put in... much like the LFA with the TRD V8 in place of the screaming Lexus V10.

I'd put my bets on a mid-mounted turbo six mated to a racing gearbox driving the rear wheels. Keeping to a six would give them more space for the extra cooling hardware this car will need for drifting.

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I like Formula Drift and Time Attack because of cars like this. Because these are the last two professional or semi-professional motorsports disciplines where anything (or almost anything) goes, and you can bring a rocket-propelled knife to a gunfight or a bazooka shooting nerf darts. It's wild, it's weird, it's wonderful... and restricting them to the "right" cars just wouldn't be in the spirit of a series that sees stuff from ratty old AE86's to humongous old luxury barges.

Granted, I dislike the fact that big horsepower means that it's all about driving conservatively now, in order to generate more smoke and less corner speed... but then, them's the breaks.


Remember when "drifting" just meant you and your idiot friends took one of your idiot friends' Camry out for an afternoon?

Fixed. I think.

Oh. Forgot the 2.2. :D
 
It's begun:
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http://www.driftworks.com/forum/dri...bw-d1gp-ferrari-f430-gt3-formula-d-japan.html
 
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