Deep Thought's by Clio Sport

[Kelly]

Originally posted by made in holland
This afternoon, just as i was about to settle myself for some Clio action, my old little TV decided he had enough of it and died.

I don't have time to buy a new one before friday, so i can't race untill then

No TV till friday

 

[boombexus]

No TV Mischa

I guess that me and Lotus will have to wrap up Mr. P by ourselvs then.

Where ya at P?

 

[Kelly]

He's at work Boom, should be having a few more tries tonight if he's not too knackered

 

[Prancing Horse]

Man...I've been a bit slack on this one....ran a 6:43.8xx yesterday but haven't had the chance to run it again since. Will try and find the time to improve today and post up a replay.

 

[Talentless]

ok. got some two ratios for testing if someone would. Can't play right now.

Final drive: 3.509

4.706
2.941
2.022
1.504
1.194
1

4.237
2.648
1.903
1.487
1.208
1

 

[Frustrated Palm]

I'll test them once I get the chance. Is that suppose to be a '1' at the end or is it a typo?

 

[Talentless]

not a typo.

both 6th gears are 1s

 

[Prancing Horse]

OK...found the time to have a go at this race again today so here's my best clean effort to date -
Lap 1 1:25.834
Lap 2 1:18.129
Lap 3 1:18.706
Lap 4 1:18.930
Lap 5 1:19.157

Total Race Time 6:40.756

And here's the replay for it..........

 

[Prancing Horse]

And if you get tired of the race car...try this road car version. The A.I. put some heat on your ar$e then!!
Clio Sport V6 24V
Sports Suspension
Racing Exhaust
Stage 1 NA tune
Stage 3 Weight reduction
Sports ROM
T1 Tyres
Should have about 323 BHP (a bit more maybe as you go)

Here's something to aim for.....

Lap 1 1:27.936
Lap 2 1:20.105
Lap 3 1:19.575
Lap 4 1:20.875
Lap 5 1:20.984

Total Race Time 6:49.475

And a Replay to match........

 

[Prancing Horse]

Originally posted by Talentless
ok. got some two ratios for testing if someone would. Can't play right now.

Final drive: 3.509

4.706
2.941
2.022
1.504
1.194
1

4.237
2.648
1.903
1.487
1.208
1

Would love to help out T..But I've only popped in quickly to post up my replays mate, and the Kids are playing that Crazy taxi at the moment also. If your still stuck tomorrow I'll test 'em out then.
Try my ratios out if you like...use MK's program on my replay.
Cheers

 

[boombexus]

Hey Drew!

I think that I'll have a go with the road version car as well. I'll use the set up that you have listed. I've been busy cleaning up on Mr. P. He stopped in for a bit of a race but haven't seen him back yet. Got him running scared!

 

[Prancing Horse]

Hiya Rob,

Yeah good job on that 6:39....but I rekon Ron will be back, he always seems to find that little bit extra he needs Have fun with the Road car version mate, its still pretty fast just tends to move around a lot more and s slower thru some of the faster corners. My 6:49 shouldn't be too hard to beat but I'll be back!

 

[boombexus]

Originally posted by Prancing Horse

....but I rekon Ron will be back, he always seems to find that little bit extra he needs

We shall see Drew, we shall see.

 

[boombexus]

Originally posted by Talentless
ok. got some two ratios for testing if someone would. Can't play right now.

Final drive: 3.509

4.706
2.941
2.022
1.504
1.194
1

Ok, the above set of gears. First of all, you never get into 6th gear. Secondly, the gearing requires you to up-shift at points where you don't really want to, like going up hill. I like to have my gears red lining at the crest of a hill so that you can up-shift and get a added boost when you crest the hill and head on your way down. There was not much about this gearing that I liked. Just my opinion of course, we all like different settings. I'd like to see Drew's response as well.

4.237
2.648
1.903
1.487
1.208
1

This set of gears was a bit better. The one part that I liked the most is that these gearings allowed you to stay right in the meat of the powerband in turns 5, 6 and 7. That long tight right hand turn coming off of the long downhill. Also I didn't have to up-shift into 4th and back down into 3rd when going into turn 9. I noticed a gain of about 3 mph going through this turn. But again with these settings, you never get into 6th gear. Making use of all your gears is essential. It allows you quicker acceleration.

The first thing that I noticed about the gearing was the low final drive ratio. Low final drives are great for top speed tracks where you have ample room to run. And there much more suited to cars with high HP outputs as it takes alot more effort to turn those taller gears.

I did about 15 laps with each gear setting. I was not able to achieve times that I had with my original settings. I was close, but still not there. I've clocked in-race lap times of 1'17.6 with the gearing that I'm using, however the fastest time that I was able to get using any of the above gearings was a 1'18.1.

In overview, making use of all the gears should improve lap times. Also, having the gearing set so that you don't have to up-shift while traveling uphill would help out as well.

Hope this helps you out T.
Tuning Troubleshooting

 

[Kelly]

Originally posted by boombexus
We shall see Drew, we shall see.

P here

i actually had about 1/2 an hour on this last night and pulled off an unclean 6.38.8

my 1st lap wrecked me getting a 6.37 which i will get as soon as i go back on it

my laps where ... from memory ...

1.26.9
1.18.1
1.17.7
1.18.2
1.17.6


i'm not finished with u yet mr Bumbexus work shift change from nights to 2-10 has left me knackered when i get home !
but enough of my excuses ...








i'll be back

 

[boombexus]

Originally posted by lotus350
i'll be back

I can't wait!

 

[Talentless]

I'll have to save one of your replays later, Boom, My car seems to handle fine but I am unable to break the 1:20.5s

 

[Der Alta]

I'm hoping to get this one under way shortly. Where does the time go...

At least I've got a mark to aim for.

AO

 

[Talentless]

in my opinion, the gear ratios should have a free setting mode that, like the first gt game, will show the aprox. speed and rpm after shift, and that its range should not be affected by the auto set or final drive ratio.

 

[Frustrated Palm]

Originally posted by Talentless
I'll have to save one of your replays later, Boom, My car seems to handle fine but I am unable to break the 1:20.5s

Join the club. I only broke the 1:20.xxx mark once. It was a pretty good lap... I have only done this race 3 times (sis and mum hog the TV and im not allowed to play PS2 on the 57') so my times are still a little slow. Plus Im not good in tuning gears (not that they would help me much I think).........

 

[Prancing Horse]

Originally posted by Boombexus......

Ok, the above set of gears. First of all, you never get into 6th gear. Secondly, the gearing requires you to up-shift at points where you don't really want to, like going up hill. I like to have my gears red lining at the crest of a hill so that you can up-shift and get a added boost when you crest the hill and head on your way down. There was not much about this gearing that I liked. Just my opinion of course, we all like different settings. I'd like to see Drew's response as well.

I always set my gearing to peak at the fastest part of the track. So for instance at Deep Forest it will be just shy of the limiter at the end of the main straight going up the hill, with just a little in reserve for the fast sections immediately after turn 1.
Here's what I used gearing wise in the race car......

3.582
2.647
2.051
1.658
1.398
1.111
Final 4.000
Autoset - 18


Hope this helps. Cheers

 

[Kelly]

Hi P again

ok had a few more races and here's my best so far

if i had nailed the start lap to match my best of 1.25.4 it would have been pretty hard to beat anyway here's my time...

1.26.4xx
1.18.0xx
1.18.0xx
1.17.7xx
1.17.9xx

total 6.38.275

my replay

 

[Kelly]

double post

 

[boombexus]

Excellent run there P! I must admit, a great race between us.



6'37.895

1'26.150 I had a 1st lap at 1'25.3
1'17.664
1'17.939
1'18.044
1'18.098

 

[Kelly]

ok i checked the replays through mk's and i have been misguided here " thanks kelly "

i have been running this with t2 superhard tyres ! where as boom and drew have used sports tyres , i'll get back on this properly after work cya's

not finished with u yet but i am enjoying this

 

[boombexus]

Hey P, glad that your enjoying it and I'm glad that your here to participate with us a bit as well. Keeps things interesting!

cya soon.

 

[Kelly]

ok P again

i decided to have a few runs before work and with T2 tyres i was definately at a disadvantage before no worries though its mostly noticable on the start laps with my new best after about 1 hour of racing being a 1.24.906
here's my best save with a ****load more to come off...

1.25.255
1.18.009
1.17.575
1.18.151
1.18.483

total = 6.37.473

i will let kelly upload my replay while i'm at work cya's

 

[Prancing Horse]

Truly excellent race times there guys....I'm too far behind to even choke on your dust!!! Actually haven't had the chance to run this again yet and probably won't get time either as I'm away until Saturday night. Keep those times a'rollin in!

 

[made in holland]

I want my new TV!!!

I can't wait to start this one, especially when i see that immense battle between Rob and Ron.

I hope i can start tonight.

 

[Kelly]

ok new best for P again

1.25.449
1.17.700
1.17.851
1.17.891
1.17.986

total = 6.36.877

replay later when kel has finished racing

back at u Boom

cya's