Detuning the NASCAR cars at Daytona- ideas?

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For anyone that watches NASCAR, you know by now that GT5's depiction of racing at Daytona is a tad unrealistic. The NASCAR cars in GT5 are unrestricted, which makes traditional pack-racing at Daytona difficult. Ive tried messing with the gear ratios to get the speeds down to a reasonable level, but the cars hit the top speed too early. Anyone have any ideas on how to "detune" the NASCAR cars for Daytona?
 
I was thinking something more along the lines of aero adjustments, or something that can be tweaked in Tuning.
 
They didn't overpower them. That's probably the HP the Nascar type blocks make when uncorked. GT5 just doesn't have any 'short tracks'. Just the super speedways.

NASCAR's Sprint Cup and Nationwide Series currently uses restrictor plates at Daytona International Speedway and Talladega Superspeedway. NASCAR routinely states that the Sprint Cup restrictor plate reduces engine power from approximately 750 hp to approximately 430 hp
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Though TBH this is some old nascar data and the numbers were probably pulled from a 'control' engine. One using much heavier oil.

It's funny how far and hardcore nascar engines have gotten HP gains of up to 50hp with just a simple change of oil viscosity. (qualifying engines vs a race engine)
 
Somewhere there is a NASCAR official cringing over the lack of restrictor plates on Daytona in GT5.

They sure are a blast to drive though.
 
Yeah, the lack of plates is troubling. I've found that if you can get the right group of guys together, and you knock the top speed in the gears down to around 211-218, you get a much better, more stable "pack-racing" effect.

The funny thing is that PD's depiction of Daytona without plates IS fairly realistic in that the cars would probably be just as fast in real life if they weren't restricted.
 
Yeah, the lack of plates is troubling. I've found that if you can get the right group of guys together, and you knock the top speed in the gears down to around 211-218, you get a much better, more stable "pack-racing" effect.

The funny thing is that PD's depiction of Daytona without plates IS fairly realistic in that the cars would probably be just as fast in real life if they weren't restricted.

I wouldn't necessary call it troubling, but I believe it would be fair to say that it was a design oversight.

I would love to see a Stock Car at it's potential and then see if GT5 was accurate.
 
I wouldn't necessary call it troubling, but I believe it would be fair to say that it was a design oversight.

I would love to see a Stock Car at it's potential and then see if GT5 was accurate.

Rusty Wallace tested a car at Talladega Superspeedway without a restrictor plate in 2004, reaching a top speed of 228 mph (367 km/h) in the backstretch and a one-lap average of 221 mph (356 km/h).[3] While admitting excitement at the achievement, Wallace also conceded, "There's no way we could be out there racing at those speeds... it would be insane to think we could have a pack of cars out there doing that."
From wiki, link to nascar.com article
http://www.nascar.com/2004/news/headlines/cup/06/10/rwallace_talladega/index.html
 
225 mph isnt out of the question.
Rusty Wallace tested a car at Talladega in 2004 on which the car had its restrictor plate removed. The car reached a top-end speed of 228 miles per hour on the backstretch and had an average lap speed of 221 mph. While the depiction is somewhat accurate in GT5, the overall IDEA is skewed a tad bit. A couple of the above posts hit on some good ideas though and we use them some in our online racing. Since we cant tune individual gears, we rely on a max speed setting so the cars can only max at 205. Thats pretty much the top speed you'll find in a restrictor plate race where the draft is utilized. Indianapolis, where restrictor plates arent used, also usually has a top speed of 205 at the entry of turns 1 and 3 so we use the same transmission setting. We use that and TRY to put more importance on the handling aspect but after a while, everyone has hit on the same setup so we're back to square one there.
 
Rusty Wallace tested a car at Talladega Superspeedway without a restrictor plate in 2004, reaching a top speed of 228 mph (367 km/h) in the backstretch and a one-lap average of 221 mph (356 km/h).[3] While admitting excitement at the achievement, Wallace also conceded, "There's no way we could be out there racing at those speeds... it would be insane to think we could have a pack of cars out there doing that."
From wiki, link to nascar.com article
http://www.nascar.com/2004/news/headlines/cup/06/10/rwallace_talladega/index.html

LOL.. Looks like we used the same reference info!!!
 
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