DLC - A Potential Problem?

[VBR]

I have a theory that PD are planning on selling us DLC in an entirely new way in GT6. I think they might be implementing a way for us to buy it with in game credits, as weird as that sounds! Consider what it says in the GT Store when you click on View Details on one of the Game Credits for sale there:

"Use these in-game credits to splash out on stunning new cars, tracks and content for Gran Turismo 6."

Does that mean that "tracks & content" are now to be bought with in-game credits purchased from the GT Store, instead of the PS Store? If so, that may explain the very low payouts in GT6. Also, what would be the ramifications now that the credit system has been blown wide open by the 20 million glitch, especially for those with 50 million credits on their game saves?

Discuss...

 

[RacerBest]

Free DLC for everyone who glitched money! Yeah!!

If they have really planned to do this, I guess they have to change the DLCs to normal Playstation Store purchases, because so many people have abused the free credits glitch.

 

[ildd]

Maybe the DLC will simply be free, as in they just put it in the game, but you have to buy it with credits.
EX- They put a E30 M3 in, but you need to pay 300k credits to get it... they put Sonoma in, you have to pay 5 million to unlock it.

 

[Foxiol]

Maybe the "only way" to get the new content will be by purchasing those "credit packs"... If they do that the DLC´s should be "free" for all ,I mean we just download the content and then inside the game it can be unlocked by purchasing those specific credits...

That sounds so weird...but let´s put this example: A new DLC comes out with 10 cars (expensive ones), maybe you like 4 of them only and "don´t want to pay" for the rest, if they add all the cars to the game, then you can buy those cars that you like with the "virtual credits"...instead of paying for the whole pack, you pay less and get the cars you really want...if later on you want the rest of the cars you can buy them.

Still that sounds weird...I would prefer to have the regular DLC´s with its value...or like on Free to Play games (which hope GT won´t become, I would stop playing it) charging per car. All cars separated.


Nah...please...regular DLC´s...After playing R3E on PC for a while and see how much they are charging per car and track (depending the cars from 2 to 5 or 6€, and tracks 5 to 10€) I would rather prefer a balanced car pack instead of expensive one by one cars.
I think paying 1$/€ per car is way too expensive already. (I bought all GT5 DLC´s...)


PS: Other thing that comes to my mind...we still are talking about micro or better said MACRO-transactions. If this is the future of console gaming...paying 60/70 for a "full" game and then to use the content you need to pay more...like nope...
PD is so weird that can risk what it is and make the game a F2P game, with all the cars and tracks they have...then they can charge us to unlock the cars we really want to use from the whole pack.

And trust me you will feel so restricted if this happens...as restricted to buy all cars in the game as you feel now with the low "income" we already have thanks to the "macro-transactions"...

 

[Bluntified]

In a way though, this could be actually a little better for us. If they use in-game credits to purchase DLC cars, considering the actual (in-game) price of the cars, our money could go further! If you spend $5 for the $500k credit pack, you could technically buy 10 cars worth $50k! Sure not all cars will be prices so cheap but hey, even 5 cars at $100k is still a bargain, for $5, it works out more or less the same than in GT5.

I'm all for it, unless they jack up the prices for cars, we should keep an eye out for inconsistencies in car prices!

 

[ProjectWHaT]

I don't mind...as long as the 20 million money glitch still works.

 

[HBR-Roadhog]

In a way though, this could be actually a little better for us. If they use in-game credits to purchase DLC cars, considering the actual (in-game) price of the cars, our money could go further! If you spend $5 for the $500k credit pack, you could technically buy 10 cars worth $50k! Sure not all cars will be prices so cheap but hey, even 5 cars at $100k is still a bargain, for $5, it works out more or less the same than in GT5.

Just let B-Spec Bob run the 24 minutes of Nurburgring while you eat supper and you have $175k in credits so there would be no reason to spend real money if we could get them with credits.

I'll be curious to see what they do but I would imagine if the plan is to allow DLC to be purchased with credits in hope of us buying credits [I doubt it very much] then I would think it very likey that those who used the 20 million glitch would have their saved games invalidated and not be able to purchase these DLC with those credits

 

[FishHunters]

I have a theory that PD are planning on selling us DLC in an entirely new way in GT6. I think they might be implementing a way for us to buy it with in game credits, as weird as that sounds! Consider what it says in the GT Store when you click on View Details on one of the Game Credits for sale there:

"Use these in-game credits to splash out on stunning new cars, tracks and content for Gran Turismo 6."

Does that mean that "tracks & content" are now to be bought with in-game credits purchased from the GT Store, instead of the PS Store? If so, that may explain the very low payouts in GT6. Also, what would be the ramifications now that the credit system has been blown wide open by the 20 million glitch, especially for those with 50 million credits on their game saves?

Discuss...

I highly doubt that. Maybe...things like...a Stealth car...Suits...Helmets...Paint. Maybe. I can't see them giving the other stuff away. Their in it to make money and if it were true then the 20M glitch would have long been fixed.

 

[BrandonW77]

I think it just means you can use these credits in GT6 to enjoy what's contained in GT6.

 

[Ginoong Multo]

the dlc system actually was decent during gt5 days, and i dont know why sony turned it into stupid "directly greedy" microtransactions...i mean why fix/modify something that's not broken? Now with the big anomaly that's happening, they might, actually should, need go back to the basics -__-

 

[ironman44321]

Would have been a pretty cool idea. But it will never happen now.

 

[Conza]

the dlc system actually was decent during gt5 days, and i dont know why sony turned it into stupid "directly greedy" microtransactions...i mean why fix/modify something that's not broken? Now with the big anomaly that's happening, they might, actually should, need go back to the basics -__-

I disagree, for Australians, we had that special tax only we and a few others seem to get, when our currency was stronger than the USD, our prices were higher, it was hog wash.

I for one really hope they foolishly ask for in game credits, even if they patch this glitch, we'll find another way to increase our cr amount for sure.

 

[OutspokenFlunky]

All that means is PD is now going about DLC like Forza has always done it. You pay real money to buy the rights to have the content added to the game. Then you have to use in-game credits that you either earned or bought with micro transactions to buy the content in-game to use. This of course only applies to cars. Tracks are going to be added to the game instantly after you pay for it with real money.

 

[dr_slump]

No

 

[ironman44321]

I for one really hope they foolishly ask for in game credits, even if they patch this glitch, we'll find another way to increase our cr amount for sure.

Why? You don't feel like it's reasonable for PD to ask for money for content they put time and effort into making and add to the game?

 

[Negrumir]

Why? You don't feel like it's reasonable for PD to ask for money for content they put time and effort into making and add to the game?

While I agree with what you said. The game just doesn't hold up.

I'd say about 75% of the content is identical to GT5, which I already paid for.
That includes dlc tracks which I paid extra for.

Now add in the fact that there are features missing from this version, that where in the last one.

And that rewards have been chopped significantly in order to encourage players to buy credits.

In that light, it we've now got recycled content, missing content, and withheld content. And then we're gonna reasonably assume that they'll charge even more money for more content down the road...

I could see why people might not want to pay for it.

I don't plan on trying to pirate anything or such like that. But with such a disgusting business model. I'm close to giving up on this company as a whole.

 

[Mac K]

I just don't see why it would make sense financially for them, even if the glitch didn't exist how would they make a profit off the DLC?

 

[MasterFocus]

In french it doesnt even say the same thing

 

[ironman44321]

While I agree with what you said. The game just doesn't hold up.

I'd say about 75% of the content is identical to GT5, which I already paid for.
That includes dlc tracks which I paid extra for.

Now add in the fact that there are features missing from this version, that where in the last one.

And that rewards have been chopped significantly in order to encourage players to buy credits.

In that light, it we've now got recycled content, missing content, and withheld content. And then we're gonna reasonably assume that they'll charge even more money for more content down the road...

I could see why people might not want to pay for it.

I don't plan on trying to pirate anything or such like that. But with such a disgusting business model. I'm close to giving up on this company as a whole.

Uuuhhh? Okay?

How often do we get a sequel (especially in racing games) with more than 25 or 30% new content? It's actually not uncommon to lose content when going to a new game.

Other than the speed test (no word on if it will return) and the track maker (which is coming, and it will be better), what did we lose?

I don't get where people see that payments have dropped. Does no one remember GT5? We should really be waiting until the seasonal events really get up and running before we make claims like that.

What PD has done with GT6 is nothing new. Not for GT and not for racing games in general. I don't get why people don't see that.

 

[HBR-Roadhog]

Yeah the payments have not dropped we just do not have those huge seasonal payouts at the moment which we may or may not get in the coming weeks/months. There are fewer prize cars but many of the cars are also cheaper than what was in GT5.

I like the new content and am happy with the amount of it. I also know that more will be coming, some of it free and some of it paid and I have no problem with that.

As for being able to buy in game credits I have no problem with that either, no one is forcing you and it is an option for those who want to use it, no problems. I have been playing a few hours a day since release, I have 119 cars and about 2.5 million credits on hand out of the 12 million or so I have earned so far. Just trying to decide if I want to buy a Delta Wing or do some more tuning.

Once B-Spec is active I'll be able to make plenty in the S events with Bob while I am not playing and we will likely see more events popping up as seasonals and likely with higher payouts. Look at the first ones for example. the first 3 paid little, the next one paid quite a bit more. The races in game pay just a few k early then several k later for very short races. Motegi Nascar for example pays over 10k per lap of a short and easy track that takes less than 1 minute to go around.

 

[STiG39]

Motegi Nascar for example pays over 10k per lap of a short and easy track that takes less than 1 minute to go around.

And then, if you try to grind money for the Ferrari P330 you so desperately want, you sit there for almost 28 hours...

Even the DeltaWing needs around 4 hours of constantly driving around in a circle... this isn´t the gameplay I want. This is crappy balancing. But everybody is free to play the game as he likes. I play it in two ways. One account with money, the other one without (I mean not as much ). Problem solved for me since I like both ways.

 

[HBR-Roadhog]

And then, if you try to grind money for the Ferrari P330 you so desperately want, you sit there for almost 28 hours...

Even the DeltaWing needs around 4 hours of constantly driving around in a circle... this isn´t the gameplay I want. This is crappy balancing. But everybody is free to play the game as he likes. I play it in two ways. One account with money, the other one without (I mean not as much ). Problem solved for me since I like both ways.

Actually no, I would wait a while. B-Spec Bob will be here soon as will more Seasonal events possibly even one that has the car as a prize.

Also no you don't have to drive around in a circle for four hours you just have to play the game for a while, It doesn't take long to build up a couple of million credits if you are just out playing the game in the higher levels and not spending all your credits.

The point is that the payout is not lower than it was in GT5 and car prices are lower with the exception of the 4 Historic race cars. X1 for example was reduced from 20 mil to 6 mil several others are several million cheaper with roughly the same payout in the races as was in GT5.

Also if you played GT5 from day one you would know that those large paydays were not there in the begining. I was already doing the endurance races for credits and had B-Spec to level 40 before they started paying big and then they could only be won once. I do not even know how much longer it was until they made them where you could keep racing them but it became far to easy to get credits.

 

[Johnnypenso]

They would never introduce a middle step into the purchase of DLC, that is, using money to buy ingame credits, then using those credits to buy DLC. Any person who's ever even sniffed a business textbook would know that scenario is an open door for getting ripped off. If so, it's the epic mistake of the century so far because they should have learned their lesson from the hacks in GT5 that basically allowed you to print money at will, which would torpedo that whole idea. Makes more sense to just take the money directly from customers, give them the content, and if they want more of the same content, they can use their ingame credits to buy more copies of the same thing.

I think it's just the usual cryptic, vague wording they always use. Means nothing really.

 

[Inferno251]

We'll wait and see...

 

[VBR]

In french it doesnt even say the same thing

Interesting...Hmmm...Maybe it's just some missprint or mistake on the English version then. It's definitely says we can use the credits to buy "tracks & content" in GT6.

 

[GolimLongshanks]

Interesting...Hmmm...Maybe it's just some missprint or mistake on the English version then. It's definitely says we can use the credits to buy "tracks & content" in GT6.

Probably just more PR BS dreamt up long before any code was written.

 

[MasterFocus]

Construisez vos option de tuning et garage personnalisé avec l'avoir In-Game de XX cr.

Which translate to:

Build your own tuning option and garage with the In-Game XX cr.

 

[VBR]

It would be interesting to find out what it says in other languages.

 

[Conza]

Why? You don't feel like it's reasonable for PD to ask for money for content they put time and effort into making and add to the game?

Well I'm glad that is phrased as a question, because I didn't say that. The answer, to that question, is no. Which is why I not only bought the game retail, I bought the AE version of the game.

The statement I made "I ...really hope they... [keep] ask[ing] for in game credits, [because] even if they patch this glitch, we'll find another way to increase our cr amount for sure." is supporting the idea that these macrotransactions are simply robbing people blind, its not 2 or 3 dollars for 50 million credits, its $75 in Australia, for 7 million credits, that had nothing to do with my initial purchase of the game and its content, which was proven by people who did the 20 mil glitch, because they got all of the content they wanted, with no additional charge.

So, my hope is that their 'alternative method' a.k.a. cheating with real money, is not the way they sell DLC, because if it is, people will just do the glitch again and PD won't get more money for content they deserve. I actually want them to be paid, additionally, when, additional, content is added to the game.

 

[mistersafeway]

Did you bother looking for the microtransactions before posting that? They're gone, at least when I look. The glitch for money is gone, too.