Do you believe?

[inferno]

Hoooo, man...

"Hoooo, man" what? long winded? A load of bull s*~#? Elaborate please.

I've mentioned Catholic persecution of "non-believers" a grand total of ONCE in this thread. SO you're babbling on about what now?

First off, I dont think thats what he was talking about. Secondly, don't get me started on what the bible says about the catholic church. I would probably get banned.

First off, I dont think thats what he was talking about.

Oops, yep there it is, right above me.

Skicrush, thank you for saying what I dared not.

 

[Famine]

You can't see Antarctica right now and no-one you can ask can tell you what's going on there right now. Does that mean God exists?
No it doesnt. Antarctica is on earth, you could go there and check it out. But as for 'boldly going where no man has ever gone before' be my guest - i bet you a fiver you will fail. You can't say what is going on in the universe, you can speculate. But you can't check it. Ah, it is infinite. Great. How can you prove it? If ever? Take a trip, tell me when you're back.

I'm back.

Handily, I'm light. Since at the speed of light time does not exist, this means that at the speed of light I can visit all points in the universe in the same instant, to me.

What I was saying earlier about what FORM the information comes to us in... It's light (and other EM radiation).

You are a highly skilled technocratic minion

Yay! I'm a... *consults dictionary* Huh?

The opinions forum isn't just about stating your opinion and leaving. Part of it is about education. If your opinion is based on massive factual inaccuracies, are you saying you'd prefer NOT to have people point out why they are factual inaccuracies and carry on with an opinion born out of ignorance?


Skicrush - Everything I've mentioned in relation to the definition of God hasn't come about from consultation with the Catholic Church. It's arisen from comments made by the Apostolic Swift, #17 (formerly XVII), SuperCobraJet and other Christians in the many other religious threads we have floating around currently.


inferno - Nearly everything you said in that paragraph from earlier on was 100% wrong. But I wouldn't worry about it.

 

[DemonSeed]

The opinions forum isn't just about stating your opinion and leaving. Part of it is about education. If your opinion is based on massive factual inaccuracies, are you saying you'd prefer NOT to have people point out why they are factual inaccuracies and carry on with an opinion born out of ignorance?

hmm. my opinion on thread subject was - i believe in myself. so where are those factual inaccuracies here?
[am i a factual inaccuracy?]



and opinion? seriously? by definition?

o·pin·ion (ə-pĭn'yən) n. A belief or conclusion held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof.

so, as you say, it is based on factual inaccuracy.

 

[Evolution.]

I,Myself believe in a god,but in my own personal system,if you will.

I really don't believe in obiding by a bunch of rules that one religion sets for you.I don't believe that to believe in god,you must go to church,follow a religions rules etc.

If god is the way most religions say he is,then he wouldn't CARE if we didn't follow that religions rules.He would want us to all be free according to them,right?

I believe that our so called God (whom may or may not exist) wants or would want all of us to be free and to live by our own ways if he is as most religions project him as.

No I don't go to church,'nor am I in 1 certain religion.I believe in god,and that is all there is to it.I do not go by any silly rules or beliefs.

 

[Joey D]

no offense to anyone, but even if youre a real scientist and a brilliant man, if you were brought up as religous and grew up religious, nothing that u learned in science class will ever bring that out of you, it might be different if he was atheist to begin with and after being hugely recognized for his work he decides to be religous and tried to scientifically proove god. And it isnt any surprise to me that he failed and wasted the last of his life doing so.

I was brought up Catholic, went to Catholic school for 8 years, I've read the bible cover to cover more times then I care to. But science has changed my views on life because science is based on a world of proving things, not just accepting it as faith. Sure there are somethings we assume, like black bodies, light as a wave and particle, things like the string theory. But for the most part there is a lot of proving stuff.

 

[cardude2004]

I believe in God as part of a structured religion. I am being brought up as a WELS (Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod) Lutheran.

 

[Famine]

hmm. my opinion on thread subject was - i believe in myself. so where are those factual inaccuracies here?
[am i a factual inaccuracy?]

Some factual inaccuracies you've expressed to justify your opinion which I have already debunked for you.

and opinion? seriously? by definition?

so, as you say, it is based on factual inaccuracy.

Don't forget definition #2:

"2. A judgment based on special knowledge and given by an expert: a medical opinion."


So which would you rather have? An opinion with no basis in reality, or an opinion based on facts?

 

[a6m5]

I saw Tacet and Swift talking about Einstein. I read something totally different. I read that Einstein was an Atheist, and only reason he started to accept god was, because he couldn't explain the beggining of the universe. Even then, he refused to accept any "religious" god. He believed in some "personal" god, who was the creator, but not an Christian God or anything like that.

 

[daan]

Where is He when you need Him?

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/member.php?u=480

He's only been around since 2001...

 

[G.T]

Where is He when you need Him?

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/member.php?u=480

He's only been around since 2001...

It says his last activity was 1st Jan 1970.

Do I believe? Well it's quite hard really. No abnormal things have happened since Jesus and that, if that's true at all. I think of it as the things that happens to us, like a baby being born or a death was gods choice, but I find its hard to believe because there's no evidence (that I've seen).

I read when you pray to god to have something you need and it comes true, I don't really know weather it's a coincedince or he really done it. Another example is if you pray to god "what decision should I make", it's not really him that's making up the decision, it's you. Mainly when you sleep, your unconcious mind works out the best decision for you to do so when you wake up, *click*, straight away you know what you want to do. You may think god put this into my mind because he wants me to do this, but you really worked it out.

Or it might be god, I just don't know.

 

[JacktheHat]

Another example is if you pray to god "what decision should I make", it's not really him that's making up the decision, it's you. Mainly when you sleep, your unconcious mind works out the best decision for you to do so when you wake up, *click*, straight away you know what you want to do. You may think god put this into my mind because he wants me to do this, but you really worked it out.

That would be your super-ego, according to Freud.

 

[daan]

It says his last activity was 1st Jan 1970.

So he can time travel too. He must be the real God.

So there we have it. Definitive proof that God exists and, not only that, but is a member of GTP too.

Topic over.

 

[G.T]

That would be your super-ego, according to Freud.

Yes, he was the first scientist to really understand the mind in a scientific way.

 

[DemonSeed]

1.
Some factual inaccuracies you've expressed to justify your opinion which I have already debunked for you.

2.
Don't forget definition #2:
"2. A judgment based on special knowledge and given by an expert: a medical opinion."
So which would you rather have? An opinion with no basis in reality, or an opinion based on facts?

1. i didn't bring up any facts in my post. and it was not a justification for my opinion, just an observation. and i used 'could' 'maybe' and 'in future' statements, which imply inaccuracy and deny any factual basis to my post. and what did you do? debunked it for me? you just cut out pieces of my post and replied to them with your usual fervor . unfortunately it didn't make too much sense as it was neither needed nor appropriate [we are talking about personal belief here].. read below...

2. i didn't forget. but that's a definition of an expert opinion. im no expert in god or beliefs, noone is. so i'll just stick to MY opinion ['i believe in myself'].

as for a basis in reality, as long as i am real, my opinion has some basis. proving that i exist and can believe in myself i might just leave for someone more into scientific methods and with more time to waste than me. i just don't think there is a need [or a way] to prove these opinions, is there?
and if you say there is, how exactly would you go about finding proof for opinions concerning beliefs?? i remember someone saying:

Science is NOT belief. Proof denies Faith.

and which one i'd rather have? both. for opinion about beliefs i dont need facts, because there is none. for opinion about let's say, state of my health, i will want to know facts.

and i certainly hope that you'd have both as well.

 

[Duke]

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[skicrush]

Man, I don't know that I'd go to Freud for advice on much of anything. He had some great ideas, but he was one sick puppy--everything was sexual to him. Kinda creepy when he he says that babies enjoy pooping and can get stuck in that "anal" phase (yeah, that's where the term "anal retentive" comes from). Kind of a sicko. According to my brother who graduated in psychology, they're debunking (thanks, DemonSeed for the concept there) a lot of Freud's work. Turns out he was just obsessed with sex.

 

[JacktheHat]

Turns out he was just obsessed with sex.

Unlike all the other living creatures on Earth? Isn't that just procreation at work?

 

[DemonSeed]

According to my brother who graduated in psychology, they're debunking (thanks, DemonSeed for the concept there) a lot of Freud's work. Turns out he was just obsessed with sex.

They did already. But, his input into psychology cannot be underestimated. He is considered one of the fathers of this science, and he will be.

And thanks for what concept? Got me lost here....[is it just about 'debunking' word? if so, it was Famine who used it first, and also, it is just a word, isn't it?]

 

[G.T]

Here's an example of one of Freud's idea's I read:

He thought people are scared of snakes because it looks a little bit like a penis. That's why they're scared. Personally I think that's crazy.

 

[daan]

A man and his penis... sorry, I mean snake.

Although its a good trick if you can do that with your penis.

 

[G.T]

Although its a good trick if you can do that with your penis.

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[DemonSeed]

maybe just open a thread about freud.....?

 

[skicrush]

I'd appreciate that trick a lot more if it was NOT used on a guy!

 

[PS]

Man, I don't know that I'd go to Freud for advice on much of anything. He had some great ideas, but he was one sick puppy--everything was sexual to him. Kinda creepy when he he says that babies enjoy pooping and can get stuck in that "anal" phase (yeah, that's where the term "anal retentive" comes from). Kind of a sicko. According to my brother who graduated in psychology, they're debunking (thanks, DemonSeed for the concept there) a lot of Freud's work. Turns out he was just obsessed with sex.

I've noticed that too. From his descriptions, analysis' and works I've read, pretty much everything goes back to sexual tension or anxiety. It's ridiculous, that's why I trust Jung more.

 

[ledhed]

Why would someone want crazy people with more than one phycosis/neurosis for a doctor ? lets go see the smart moron for our mental health needs..after all he is nuts so he must know what he's talking about.

 

[Razorback]

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