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the T/A is mostly driven by snot nosed spoiled high schoolers,with the tendency to have their dad pay 4 it,they think they are all bad.....
thats what i hate.....
thats what i hate.....
Do you think that they will bring back the Camaro and Trans Am?
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and mazkid,wtf are you talkin about mazdas 4???
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ohh, and my dad is 50("I'm fifty! Fifty years old. And I like to kick, punch, and kiiiick! Fifty years old" from SNL if you don't know).
I honestly can't see him in a Corvette...it's not right...it doesn't fit who he is...
The only reason he never had a 3rd gen RX-7 was cause, well, they cost a lot, and they don't last long. Also he doesn't really care how fast the car is. Sure, it's fun, but if you think about it, you don't "need" a lot of power. The Probe GT is really enough for him.
I honestly can't see him in a Corvette...it's not right...it doesn't fit who he is...
The only reason he never had a 3rd gen RX-7 was cause, well, they cost a lot, and they don't last long. Also he doesn't really care how fast the car is. Sure, it's fun, but if you think about it, you don't "need" a lot of power. The Probe GT is really enough for him.
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Hell no, he would never do that.
He's an OEM guy. He doesn't even like aftermarket filters...(although some of the Mazda parts are pretty poor, so he does get aftermarket stuff, but always something that is made for that car and is an exact replacement for the OEM part)
He's an OEM guy. He doesn't even like aftermarket filters...(although some of the Mazda parts are pretty poor, so he does get aftermarket stuff, but always something that is made for that car and is an exact replacement for the OEM part)
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they will comback with the same name,
they will put in production in 3/5 years.
is the way they use to keep the expectation on every of us.
one year ago just few peolpes talk about camaros ,but now everybody is thinking and talking about it( they will,no they won't)
everybody want a camaro,cuz is may be the last. and the car colecttors buy it for the same reason.(omg is the last i need it in my colection)
is like the :chevy: impala they make one really good in 96,( a year later they said "sorry but this the last impala" blah, blah, blah +blah , blah, blah.) and now we have a new crapy model.
if you don't are selling a good amount of the product,just take out of the market (sometime a short time )make a better look+ make a few improvement and thats it.
sometimes the company's just change the look and a few details.(or just the name)
but in this case they won't change the name ,say :chevy is say camaro and vice versa.
the :chevy:history is about :corvette: and camaro they wanna a new image to the world,may now they have a lot of cars +suv etc,etc .
but they don't wanna take out erase that two ( with out vette's and camaro's they don't would be here) is like the chevy logo with out that to show what exactly they are ,they are so empty or may nothing.
the camaro name is like the chevy name camaro=:chevy: and :chevy: =camaro,that can't be separate.
they will put in production in 3/5 years.
is the way they use to keep the expectation on every of us.
one year ago just few peolpes talk about camaros ,but now everybody is thinking and talking about it( they will,no they won't)
everybody want a camaro,cuz is may be the last. and the car colecttors buy it for the same reason.(omg is the last i need it in my colection)
is like the :chevy: impala they make one really good in 96,( a year later they said "sorry but this the last impala" blah, blah, blah +blah , blah, blah.) and now we have a new crapy model.
if you don't are selling a good amount of the product,just take out of the market (sometime a short time )make a better look+ make a few improvement and thats it.
sometimes the company's just change the look and a few details.(or just the name)
but in this case they won't change the name ,say :chevy is say camaro and vice versa.
the :chevy:history is about :corvette: and camaro they wanna a new image to the world,may now they have a lot of cars +suv etc,etc .
but they don't wanna take out erase that two ( with out vette's and camaro's they don't would be here) is like the chevy logo with out that to show what exactly they are ,they are so empty or may nothing.
the camaro name is like the chevy name camaro=:chevy: and :chevy: =camaro,that can't be separate.
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Yea, that is funny.
Last year, a kid in my grade(that I have known for a long time) asked me what engine was in the RX-7 infront of a ton of other kids. So I gave the strait facks, and he goes "No, it's got a 4.4L V8!" and I said "Really? Is that why RX-7 stands for Rotary eXport #7?" and he just shut up.
Some kids just don't get it...they see a modded car in a magazine, and think that every car with the same name is exactly like that...
Last year, a kid in my grade(that I have known for a long time) asked me what engine was in the RX-7 infront of a ton of other kids. So I gave the strait facks, and he goes "No, it's got a 4.4L V8!" and I said "Really? Is that why RX-7 stands for Rotary eXport #7?" and he just shut up.
Some kids just don't get it...they see a modded car in a magazine, and think that every car with the same name is exactly like that...
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Anyone that would pick the Camaro over the Trans Am for styling needs his head examined. Btw, no prob with the mustang, especially the GT500, but the GT, well, that is girly, not that a v6 Firebird is super macho.
Have you seen Camaros from the 70s? No way, no way in hell do they look better than the Firebirds of that era overall.
Now the pre 70, maybe turn of decade Camaros look great. The 80s not sure?
90s, maybe the Camaro somewhat.
Today, Trans Am. The Camaro thinks it's a Concorde.
Have you seen Camaros from the 70s? No way, no way in hell do they look better than the Firebirds of that era overall.
Now the pre 70, maybe turn of decade Camaros look great. The 80s not sure?
90s, maybe the Camaro somewhat.
Today, Trans Am. The Camaro thinks it's a Concorde.
As far as I am concerned, the 1996 Impala SS was the last Impala.
You can quote me on that until I die.
The Chevrolet will not come back with the same name - I guarantee that. The reason they were pulled, remember, is because GM could no longer turn a profit on the vehicles. Sure, everyone was talking about them when they were officially dropped, but do you remember everyone talking about the new Beetle when it came out? I haven't heard a good word about that car from a non-owner in two years.
The Camaro's biggest problem was corrected by the Mustang, but Chevrolet refused to follow suit. The Camaro was NOT mainstream enough to justify sales. The Mustang, over the last ten years, has become a VERY mainstream vehicle and now a sensible choice for a semi-fun, semi-family vehicle. The Camaro was trying to be a sports car in a world of better (yes, better) imports.
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. :chevy: have a new impala ( so crapy) is based on the same shassis of the malibu .
i'm sure of this cuz since the firts time i see the impala (96) is one of my favorite (is a long list) i read everything i can about it.
the new new impala was for :chevy: a new sensation,cuz they win a safety test with 5 star ( i saw a lot of ad of that on tv)
but no matter how hard they try that crapy model never will be nothing agains the 96 model.
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i miss our 1966 Impala 
GM cars -- and US cars in general -- have a lot of ground to cover when it comes to design and quality of structure. Under the semi-modernised exterior, the Camaro, Firebird, Corvette, and Mustang are still pretty much the same as they were 30 years ago: leaf springs, crap steering, more body shake than a belly dancer.... But that's not why I'd by a '64 1/2 Mustang, an '79 Trans Am, or '84 IROC. It's all about the engine, something US manufacturers do get right. I like 4-cylinder turbos as much as the next pre-teen, but nothing beats the grunt and soundtrack of an over-bored V8.
But as to whether the Camaro will (or should) return? Absolutely. Just not like the last one was. For once, GM should try taking a page from their over-seas subsidiaries. Ford seems to have learned some lessons from the Euro-devised Focus, and used it in the SVT Mustang. Why can't GM learn from Saab's suspension work and Subaru's steering rack? Why don't they realise that the European market would actually go for a warbly V8 Firebird that looks -- at the very least -- unoffensive and doesn't flex like an accordian on roundabouts?
GM, Ford, and Chrysler all have the parts available to them, through one subsidiary or another. An advantage, I guess, after all those overseas buyouts. They just need to get off their high horses, pull a VAG-trick, and put the right peices together. No bull**** re-branding tricks like the pseudo-GTO and X-Type. Real, original, well-assembled new cars. Maybe the recession we're in will have some impact, but I won't be holding my breath
But as to whether the Camaro will (or should) return? Absolutely. Just not like the last one was. For once, GM should try taking a page from their over-seas subsidiaries. Ford seems to have learned some lessons from the Euro-devised Focus, and used it in the SVT Mustang. Why can't GM learn from Saab's suspension work and Subaru's steering rack? Why don't they realise that the European market would actually go for a warbly V8 Firebird that looks -- at the very least -- unoffensive and doesn't flex like an accordian on roundabouts?
GM, Ford, and Chrysler all have the parts available to them, through one subsidiary or another. An advantage, I guess, after all those overseas buyouts. They just need to get off their high horses, pull a VAG-trick, and put the right peices together. No bull**** re-branding tricks like the pseudo-GTO and X-Type. Real, original, well-assembled new cars. Maybe the recession we're in will have some impact, but I won't be holding my breath
Ford wanted to get parts from somewhere (a different, private contractor) in something of a 'back-door deal' behind Visteon. Visteon found out and was ticked and threatened to jack up Ford's part prices. It happened a few months ago, and I only saw a few mentions of it in AOL's behind the scenes news (or whatever they call it) when I was looking for info proving my belief that Ford would collapse.
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fors blows chevy,chevy blows dodge 
they work together
they work together
Sounds like a plan to play one contractor against the other (for lower prices) backfired.
Wow. After a quick look at Visteon's site, I am amazed at how VAG and Ford can get parts from the same company and end up on opposite ends of the quality scale. Ironcially, both VW and Ford were their respective country's "everyman's car".
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Well, I suppose it's because of location. Where's Visteon based? Both Ford and Volkswagen produce many cars in Mexico.
Visteon says they have 84 locations -- global locations -- and 25 corporate "headquarters". That's a big company. I guess with Ford and VAG as major clients, you need to be huge. As for "Built in Mexico", it's just cheaper there. :-/
Yep. Though it's a bit curious - the Jetta and Beetle are made in Mexico and have been less than perfect in reliability ratings. They drag the entire Volkswagen company down, as far as total ratings.
Ford builds the Focus in Mexico, and we know about its quality problems. You can either blame Mexico or Visteon, and at the risk of being racist, I'm blaming Visteon!
