I mean, yes… But the same you could say about The Rock and then WM 2010 and 2011 happened 👍Cena won't be at Wrestlemania 42, this was his last and stated he was retiring at December
See it's just like the vintage era of the late 2000's/early 2010's, but now Cena is the bad guy and Orton is the good guy so it's whoooooa totally flipped on its head!Cena vs Orton
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To be fair it was nothing more than Roman's vanity belt when he went to Smackdown and they reintroduced the WHC to Raw, so it was effectively defunct by that point anyway. I doubt anyone will really care, other than wondering why WWE didn't just unify the Universal and WWE titles when Cody won them in the first place.Minor update. The Universal Championship is now officially retired.
To add to do this, they have retconned it to be that it has been retired ever since Cody Rhodes won it and his 378 day reign as Universal Champion is no longer recognised. John Cena never won the Universal Championship
Gotta keep the 17 agenda for the "moment" I guess![]()
Thats the point of why it took Cody to lose it to officially retire it, just to retcon it out of him (aside from the win itself) anyway.To be fair it was nothing more than Roman's vanity belt when he went to Smackdown and they reintroduced the WHC to Raw, so it was effectively defunct by that point anyway. I doubt anyone will really care, other than wondering why WWE didn't just unify the Universal and WWE titles when Cody won them in the first place.
For a bit I had a suspicion that they kept it around to consider using it as a sort of "#1 Contender's belt" that would bounce between both brands and (theoretically) give more legitimacy to anyone challenging for the WHC or WWE title, but other than the fact that there are both red and blue versions of the Universal title I couldn't really figure out how the logistics of that would even work, especially since the MITB briefcase exists.Thats the point of why it took Cody to lose it to officially retire it, just to retcon it out of him (aside from the win itself) anyway.
Would save headaches of people who were actually paying attention bringing up 18 and people trying to say it was retired all along when thats now only true in retcon![]()
Minor update. The Universal Championship is now officially retired.
To add to do this, they have retconned it to be that it has been retired ever since Cody Rhodes won it and his 378 day reign as Universal Champion is no longer recognised. John Cena never won the Universal Championship
Gotta keep the 17 agenda for the "moment" I guess![]()
To be fair it was nothing more than Roman's vanity belt when he went to Smackdown and they reintroduced the WHC to Raw, so it was effectively defunct by that point anyway. I doubt anyone will really care, other than wondering why WWE didn't just unify the Universal and WWE titles when Cody won them in the first place.
Watch this space - doing a bit of a spreadsheet/database for ALL World Championships (but using my rules and being consistent on what's recognised and not, etc) for both Men's and Women's sides.Thats the point of why it took Cody to lose it to officially retire it, just to retcon it out of him (aside from the win itself) anyway.
Would save headaches of people who were actually paying attention bringing up 18 and people trying to say it was retired all along when thats now only true in retcon![]()
Yeah he’s still the record holder using my calcs @ 19Hilariously, depending on the counting methods Ric Flair is still the record-holder anyway at ~22![]()
I’d actually be very curious to do it in boxing as well.As a very casual observer it's amusing how seriously people take these numbers.
We wrestling nerds love our statsAs a very casual observer it's amusing how seriously people take these numbers.
Honestly, at least the length of reigns lost all meaning when champions can go for months without being on the show and by our most recent example of Roman Reigns, long =/= goodAs a very casual observer it's amusing how seriously people take these numbers.
Yeah, and from his recent pictures, he still looks like he's in good shape and going strong. Wow...impressive.Hilariously, depending on the counting methods Ric Flair is still the record-holder anyway at ~22![]()