dope, slammed cars.

[mira_alex]

Post them up, any clean car, sick fitment. Just do it.

 

[Danoff]

We already have a questionable mods thread.

 

[freedomweasel]

We already have a questionable mods thread.

This stuff only bugs me when it's done to otherwise high performance cars. The Golfs and stuff are one thing, but Supras, STIs, Miata and the like.. just sad. It's like giving a gold medal winning sprinter a pair of wood clogs.

 

[mira_alex]

It's not always about who's the faster. Most of you guys don't like this, all you guys like are 4x4 and go fast, but I bet the Supra and the VW R and the Subi will take a lot cars even that low just saying.

 

[freedomweasel]

It's not always about who's the faster. Most of you guys don't like this, all you guys like are 4x4 and go fast, but I bet the Supra and the VW R and the Subi will take a lot cars even that low just saying.

When you lower a car that much you mess with the roll centers big time. I can't tell on all of them, but a lot of the time the camber people put on them (like the civic) makes the contact patch about nil. Not to mention all the problems that would happen when you go over a bump at high speed, or mid corner at high speed.

There's a range of options between "4x4" and "totalled screwed up geometry and broken oil pans". 👍

On the other hand, not my car, so I can't get too worked up about it.

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

Its not as low as those but my headers are less than 2 inches from the ground. Hope this counts. This car has seen hundreds and hundreds of laps on local road track events, woodward dream cruise, and the 2004 Power Tour. Can be daily driven if necessary.

 

[motortrend]

When you lower a car that much you mess with the roll centers big time. I can't tell on all of them, but a lot of the time the camber people put on them (like the civic) makes the contact patch about nil. Not to mention all the problems that would happen when you go over a bump at high speed, or mid corner at high speed.

There's a range of options between "4x4" and "totalled screwed up geometry and broken oil pans". 👍

On the other hand, not my car, so I can't get too worked up about it.

Indeed, not to mention unexistant suspension travel which is definitely needed. I completely agree with putting bags on a golf or lowering it, I think it looks cool (I wouldnt put 19 inch wheels on it though), but definitely not on a performance car, I just see so much potential going to waste.

 

[HighSeasHoMastr]

When you lower a car that much you mess with the roll centers big time. I can't tell on all of them, but a lot of the time the camber people put on them (like the civic) makes the contact patch about nil. Not to mention all the problems that would happen when you go over a bump at high speed, or mid corner at high speed.

There's a range of options between "4x4" and "totalled screwed up geometry and broken oil pans". 👍

On the other hand, not my car, so I can't get too worked up about it.

+1
Plus, it's inconvenient and uncomfortable to drive a car that's that low on the street, especially in the US where our road maintenance is 🤬 I have my street car ('68 912) at Euro ride height and even that is a little low sometimes. The 911 that I drive on the track is lowered a little bit below euro spec, but only about 1.5-2". You have to create good balance between lowering the CG and keeping useful suspension geometry. Cars like these won't be useful for much but sitting there because the geometry is so compromised that it becomes downright dangerous to consider putting the car under any amount of stress.
And as for this:

[...] I bet the Supra and the VW R and the Subi will take a lot cars even that low just saying.

Maybe on the freeway, but not if they have to turn (or go over a slight bump)
There's just no way to keep decent suspension setup with that much camber/lowering. And don't even get me started on "tire stretch" because that only amplifies the existing setup problems. The sidewall is not designed to be driven on. Be honest, these cars are all show and no go. Don't try and sell them as something they're not.

I have no problem with people doing this to their cars if they think it looks good, because it's their car and they can do what they want. The problem comes when those people decide that this is how every car should look and vocalize it to everyone who might listen. Why? Why does everyone have to be like you? This applies for every mod-group in the automotive world; live and let live. If the owner thinks it looks good, good for him/her, there's no reason to attack them over it.

 

[Murcie_LP640]

Couldn't the owner of the black MkIV Golf at least have the decency to take the BMW center caps off of his wheels?

Strictly speaking though there's lowered cars in which the lowering actually helps with handling, and then there's stuff like that which doesn't.

Yes, once again I'm going back to SIC EM on this one.

 

[Keef]

Post them up, any clean car, sick fitment. Just do it.

Where was this picture taken? The satin orange car on Equips is a buddy of mine, Ben Thoerner.

 

[Azuremen]

It's not always about who's the faster. Most of you guys don't like this, all you guys like are 4x4 and go fast, but I bet the Supra and the VW R and the Subi will take a lot cars even that low just saying.

Till they break an axle. Lowering a car that much puts all kinds of stress on the axles and drive train components as well because it loads them in ways they were never meant to maintain.

 

[Keef]

Till they break an axle. Lowering a car that much puts all kinds of stress on the axles and drive train components as well because it loads them in ways they were never meant to maintain.

It's okay if you can't handle it Cody. Not everybody is cut out to live the low life.

I drove Ben's GTI back when the body was stock and he just had hella cut springs, probably 3 years ago. His axles had burnt notches in the frame rails the car was so low. On the way to get pizza, he told me I couldn't drive n the middle of the road, and when I did, the hump in the middle scraped his exhaust. We hit bumps at a rough intersection the axles hit the frame - the most awful banging, scraping sound I've ever heard. "It's cool, that's normal," he said. Uh...okay.

You can either handle it or you can't. I can't and that's why I don't do it.

 

[Eric.]

It's okay if you can't handle it Cody. Not everybody is cut out to live the low life.

I drove Ben's GTI back when the body was stock and he just had hella cut springs, probably 3 years ago. His axles had burnt notches in the frame rails the car was so low. On the way to get pizza, he told me I couldn't drive n the middle of the road, and when I did, the hump in the middle scraped his exhaust. We hit bumps at a rough intersection the axles hit the frame - the most awful banging, scraping sound I've ever heard. "It's cool, that's normal," he said. Uh...okay.

You can either handle it or you can't. I can't and that's why I don't do it.

My Civic scraped the hump in the middle of a country road at about 60mph with two people in the car...

However its a larger hump than normal.

 

[Perfect Balance]

My car scrapes at intersections if I drive in the middle of the road as well.

In any case, I like the idea of a single Dope Status thread, but this isn't necessary with the Imports/Hotrods/Sexy and Mean cars threads.

Because 80% of the cars in the Imports thread would also be suitable for this thread, as well as the sexy and mean cars threads.

 

[mira_alex]

Its not as low as those but my headers are less than 2 inches from the ground. Hope this counts. This car has seen hundreds and hundreds of laps on local road track events, woodward dream cruise, and the 2004 Power Tour. Can be daily driven if necessary.

liking this. 👍

Indeed, not to mention unexistant suspension travel which is definitely needed. I completely agree with putting bags on a golf or lowering it, I think it looks cool (I wouldnt put 19 inch wheels on it though), but definitely not on a performance car, I just see so much potential going to waste.

I agree with you, I never said that a car slammed to the for will perform better than a performance car i.e M3 and what not but it could still do the job on a straight flat road. When your that low, your not thinking about going fast 24/7 you just want to cruise but if you have some that is messing with you at the light it might get the job done.

+1
Plus, it's inconvenient and uncomfortable to drive a car that's that low on the street, especially in the US where our road maintenance is 🤬 I have my street car ('68 912) at Euro ride height and even that is a little low sometimes. The 911 that I drive on the track is lowered a little bit below euro spec, but only about 1.5-2". You have to create good balance between lowering the CG and keeping useful suspension geometry. Cars like these won't be useful for much but sitting there because the geometry is so compromised that it becomes downright dangerous to consider putting the car under any amount of stress.
And as for this:

Maybe on the freeway, but not if they have to turn (or go over a slight bump)
There's just no way to keep decent suspension setup with that much camber/lowering. And don't even get me started on "tire stretch" because that only amplifies the existing setup problems. The sidewall is not designed to be driven on. Be honest, these cars are all show and no go. Don't try and sell them as something they're not.

I have no problem with people doing this to their cars if they think it looks good, because it's their car and they can do what they want. The problem comes when those people decide that this is how every car should look and vocalize it to everyone who might listen. Why? Why does everyone have to be like you? This applies for every mod-group in the automotive world; live and let live. If the owner thinks it looks good, good for him/her, there's no reason to attack them over it.

If you bust pan, just replace it, I have a friend that's about an inch lower than me busted 3 oil pans in one week, gives you an excuse to work on your car, that's just a life style that people like. And with how bad the roads are on the U.S, you just got to know how to drive a low car. With stretch tires my back tires are pretty stretch you can see the barrel, and no the sidewall do not hit the road the only thing it hits is the fender, the purpose of stretch tires is to tuck your wheels under the fender, plus i got a buddy that drifts with stretch tires with no problems. 👍 And you right I'm not trying to make everyone like what I like in cars, I just want to find people that do on GTP and I notice not a lot of people do.

Where was this picture taken? The satin orange car on Equips is a buddy of mine, Ben Thoerner.

No clue man just found it on VWVORTEX, sick car.

Till they break an axle. Lowering a car that much puts all kinds of stress on the axles and drive train components as well because it loads them in ways they were never meant to maintain.

It's okay if you can't handle it Cody. Not everybody is cut out to live the low life.

I drove Ben's GTI back when the body was stock and he just had hella cut springs, probably 3 years ago. His axles had burnt notches in the frame rails the car was so low. On the way to get pizza, he told me I couldn't drive n the middle of the road, and when I did, the hump in the middle scraped his exhaust. We hit bumps at a rough intersection the axles hit the frame - the most awful banging, scraping sound I've ever heard. "It's cool, that's normal," he said. Uh...okay.

You can either handle it or you can't. I can't and that's why I don't do it.

ha it's true when I go over an intersection with a big dip my suspension hits hard feels like the whole car just broke down, just a normal thing for me. Or when my tires rub with my fender normal for me too, it just the way of the low life again some people like it some do not. And if you brake an axel or what ever well time to fix it, and make it better. Is not cheap to be low.

My car scrapes at intersections if I drive in the middle of the road as well.

In any case, I like the idea of a single Dope Status thread, but this isn't necessary with the Imports/Hotrods/Sexy and Mean cars threads.

Because 80% of the cars in the Imports thread would also be suitable for this thread, as well as the sexy and mean cars threads.

I was on it but the most I saw was performance car not cars with a fitment.

 

[mira_alex]

And more to add.

 

[Eric.]

Seeing as this is just another "imports" thread, can we merge them?

 

[Cano]

I really find hard to believe that some of those can roll. Aside from the fact that it looks plain retarded on some, and that I understand some may be on bags... but there are some that evidently are hard-slammed. How much metal do you have to trim in order for the tire to roll freely?

 

[motortrend]

liking this. 👍


I agree with you, I never said that a car slammed to the for will perform better than a performance car i.e M3 and what not but it could still do the job on a straight flat road. When your that low, your not thinking about going fast 24/7 you just want to cruise but if you have some that is messing with you at the light it might get the job done.


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Thing is cars with a high amount of negative camber will obviously have less traction from a standstill which makes them slower. I understand it's cool, but it's just a complete drawback from a performance perspective and that's what performance cars are about, so why spend money making it handle worse?(referring to performance cars only, I actually like cars for cruising that are bagged)

 

[Eric.]

There's really no use arguing this.

 

[mira_alex]

I really find hard to believe that some of those can roll. Aside from the fact that it looks plain retarded on some, and that I understand some may be on bags... but there are some that evidently are hard-slammed. How much metal do you have to trim in order for the tire to roll freely?

Really just what ever it takes to make the wheel fit.

Thing is cars with a high amount of negative camber will obviously have less traction from a standstill which makes them slower. I understand it's cool, but it's just a complete drawback from a performance perspective and that's what performance cars are about, so why spend money making it handle worse?(referring to performance cars only, I actually like cars for cruising that are bagged)

Not all cars have crazy camber, but who ever cambers their car like that, that just how they like it. I have like negative one in the back of my car but it all happen natural when I dropped the car.

 

[Perfect Balance]

I was on it but the most I saw was performance car not cars with a fitment.

There's plently of cars with fitment in there.

Fitment isn't this:

And more to add.

Those don't fit.

 

[hemisport15]

There's really no use arguing this.

And this is the exact reason why we can never have a thread like this. Too many people have to say the same thing about suspension geometry, contact patches, i like function over form, blah blah blah. We all know that this isn't everyone's cup of tea, but there are a decent amount of people on this site that love this kind of stuff, including me. That being said, if you don't have any pictures to post or a compliment about a car, don't say anything because it will only start a debate. I hate going into picture threads, mainly the Imports thread, and having to read through pages of debating/bickering/complaining about how people set up their cars.

Some day I hope that we can all respect each other's tastes and realize that some people in this world would rather take a car and make it low, than try to set it up for being the fastest around a track.

Now here are some pics.

a MKV on Chrysler Crossfire wheels...

 

[Perfect Balance]

And this is the exact reason why we can never have a thread like this. Too many people have to say the same thing about suspension geometry, contact patches, i like function over form, blah blah blah.

No, it's because the import thread is perfectly suited for these cars.

As we've just seen, it's gonna happen in either thread, so this thread is useless, because it's really just an imports thread.

 

[mira_alex]

There's plently of cars with fitment in there.

Fitment isn't this:



Those don't fit.

He just has poke. 👍

Very nice pictures hemisport15, you and I are on the same page. And the import thread to this one is very different.

 

[mira_alex]

And less talking more pictures.

 

[Azuremen]

He just has poke. 👍

Very nice pictures hemisport15, you and I are on the same page. And the import thread to this one is very different.

There is an inch of wheel sticking out past those tires. It doesn't even look good from the slammed and stanced perspective, in my opinion.

Low can look good, just don't expect anyone to take the car seriously for anything but parking, period. Wheel poke doesn't look good, and in fact is just plan stupid - like when that fat girl wears pants that are too tight with a shirt that is too short.

 

[Stotty]

Seriously, don't we have enough of this already in the imports thread?

Half the pictures on this page are more than likely already in there.

 

[mira_alex]

Can everyone just be happy, if you don't like it then just to even come in this thread, you guys seriously don't know the low life.

And with the poke if look with your eyes the tires meets with the fender, wheel pokes out. Learned the game if you want to talk again don't like don't post.

 

[NISM0_SKYLINE]

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