when you drift, you are supposed to get a faster time than you were grip driving.., you don't use 90-degree angles for drifting..,
sure, the point of drifting is to get sideways, but not in a 90-degree manner. have you watched The Fast and The Furious: Tokyo Drift?? if you have, have you seen any of the cars in the movie do a 90-degree drift?? that 90-degree drift is wrong. that is why drifting is invented - so that race drivers can go faster when turning into a slow corner, NOT slower.
I have a feeling we have a slight issue in regards to how drifting is being described and the term used here.
Drifting (in its most commonly used contemporary form) is a branch of motorsport that places the emphasis on developing and holding oversteer for as long as possiable. Drivers are not ranked on the speed with which they complete a course, rather on the angle (and bigger is better) and duration of the drift they perform.
In a race 'drifting' in that form is of almost no use what so ever, yes almost all forms of racing involve a degree of oversteer, its a handling trait that can't be avoided when on the limit of tyre grip. The difference is that when racing for posistion and lap-time developing oversteer into large and lurid drifts will not be quicker at all. Even in the branch of 'traditional' motorsport most linked to large degrees of oversteer, that of rallying, the drivers will only want the oversteer to develop to the degree needed for the corner and hold it for no longer than needed.
The track/rally driver will use oversteer to help get around a corner, but will not allow it to develop beyond what is needed and for no longer than is needed. They will also be aware that in the vast majority of corners pure grip is always going to be faster (laws of physics at work here). I am also a little concerned that you quote The Fast and the Furious : Tokyo Drift as 'proof' of this and as a reference. Quite frankly that's about the worst example of proof I could think of, the film in question is (arguably) entertainment and certainly not an accurate source of information about racecar dynamics.
All you have done here is confused a lot of people with a thread about drifting and then told people they are wrong about drifting??
Sucahyo posts up a piece of classic drifting action, which is exactly what most people reading this thread would think of, and you then slap him down for it.
=drifting24/7=, you need to rethink what you want from this thread and clarify it to people, as when you ask....
has anyone drifted on Grindelwald?? i like the course very much because it resembles a mountain pass
just refer to my thread you want DRIFT?? Look no further
for more details, also post your best lap times to see who is the best
...people are going to assume 'show' drifting, hence the questions about lap-times, which have little bearing on drifting for performance.
Regards
Scaff
I'm sure someone else will be up for the challenge..
Spoon Civic, an FF, drifting ......... 
It keeps asking me to download software and stuff. I just haven't got the time, man.
i really want to show my skill here, but i can not, so i can not do anything but just post threads 
