Drift Trials into the online enviroment. Post here your feeling about it.

[Gonales]

You obviously haven't seen me drift then. And if you notice I did hit the clipping points after that. AT FULL LOCK. Don't scrutinize me. Maybe it shouldn't be done, but I do it anyway. I actually like to do my own thing and be creative, and it works for me. So I'll see you on the track.

I wasn't even talking to YOU dude. Don't get so offended over something that isn't even aimed at you? :/

Please find and quote where I called you elitist.

I agreed that you can be elitist. Never did I call you it directly.

You literally said I was. Want me to link it?

To clear things up, I have had many hundreds of hours drifting online, in tandem, battling other drifters, in gt5.

I personally didnt notice as huge a difference as everyone else seemed to.

In your opinion, my personal experience counts for nothing?

If this were face to face, and you a bloke, it's safe to say I'd have squared up to you about now.

First of all, GT5 and GT6 are a huge difference. Second of all, the fact you don't notice a difference says enough.

Last but not least, my gender has nothing to do with it.

Private messages are for talking privately, when I only wish to speak to one person directly, rather than clogging up the boards.

Shame than, because I don't mind other people reading this, and perhaps (even though its unlikely), learn from it.

I have made setups for drifting because I drift.... I have shared them because I'm a nice person, arguably unlike yourself.

I make videos because I manage some interesting stuff (in my opinion), and the rest of it is to show that even someone who can drift with a wheel, still makes mistakes, and is constantly learning. I can admit this, you need to aswell.

Yes, you make a lot of setups. Yes, you tell a lot of people what to do.

This does NOT mean that what you're telling is correct.

And I can admit that, I do quite often.

I am restricted to offline due to a lack of home internet at the moment. I don't choose to drift on my own, but do to feed my passion for all things sideways, I make do, and have a bloody good time whilst doing so.

Well, maybe you should stick with the offline part of drifting tell, instead of telling others what to do.

Do you use the handbrake? I'm sure many would argue that your technique and skill set is lacking if you don't.

I have built a handbrake rig to further my skills, because I can admit that my previous 'no handbrake' style was lacking slightly, and holding me back.

I recognised a short coming in my skillset, and actively worked towards improving it.

All I ever see from you is statements implying that you are all but perfect.

Yes, I use a handbrake.

And frankly, this makes quite clear you don't have a clue. NOT having to use a handbrake means you have more skill, and style than having to use it. Judges all around the world judge people in a negative manner for using the ebrake in the wrong way.

So you see no point in me drifting on my own, or giving advice, based upon years of virtual drifting, just because my past few months have been offline only?

Yes, because frankly... All your GT6 experience IS offline.

 

[FussyFez]

I wasn't even talking to YOU dude. Don't get so offended over something that isn't even aimed at you? :/


You literally said I was. Want me to link it?



First of all, GT5 and GT6 are a huge difference. Second of all, the fact you don't notice a difference says enough.

Last but not least, my gender has nothing to do with it.



Shame than, because I don't mind other people reading this, and perhaps (even though its unlikely), learn from it.



Yes, you make a lot of setups. Yes, you tell a lot of people what to do.

This does NOT mean that what you're telling is correct.

And I can admit that, I do quite often.



Well, maybe you should stick with the offline part of drifting tell, instead of telling others what to do.



Yes, I use a handbrake.

And frankly, this makes quite clear you don't have a clue. NOT having to use a handbrake means you have more skill, and style than having to use it. Judges all around the world judge people in a negative manner for using the ebrake in the wrong way.



Yes, because frankly... All your GT6 experience IS offline.

Thanks for proving my point.

Have a nice life.

Can you unlock your profile so I can click 'ignore' please. There's a good girl.

 

[t3kc0h]

I wasn't even talking to YOU dude. Don't get so offended over something that isn't even aimed at you? :/

I'm just saying don't be that person that just ASSUMES that what YOU don't like PERSONALLY is wrong. Because when you ASSume, you make the three first letters out of yourself. But we've already had this argument. So please stop replying. You're making yourself look bad.

 

[Gonales]

I'm just saying don't be that person that just ASSUMES that what YOU don't like PERSONALLY is wrong. Because when you ASSume, you make the three first letters out of yourself. But we've already had this argument. So please stop replying. You're making yourself look bad.

Have you actually read anything in the conversation? It's NOT me that is telling people I can do better outside DT mode than in them. Don't jump on the damn bandwagon, and read. And think about what was written. Thank you.

Thanks for proving my point.

Have a nice life.

Can you unlock your profile so I can click 'ignore' please. There's a good girl.

No, I won't unlock my profile. If you want to ignore it, figure it out.

Oh, and until you can get some internet to do a competition online, don't assume other people are bad because you don't know them. Makes you look elitist.

 

[twitcher]

You guys are still fighting with Dom? Damn . I think we need a sticky at the top of the Drift Forums, informing people not to bother arguing with her, as it's a waste of time.

We're right back where we were 4 :censored:ing years ago when we were all "debating" about tire choice. Clearly there are people who think DT is the way to go, and others don't feel the same way. Neither are wrong, both simply have a difference of opinion on how they enjoy playing the game.

If someone new to the game comes along and asks about the difference between the two modes, would it be possible to simply lay out the pros and cons of each mode, and let the person chose for themselves, instead of this "my way is better (...IMO)" bull 🤬

And people wonder why the drift forums are considered the armpit of GTP. smh

 

[BayouSimDrifter]

I hold more angle then @Gonales and @Lock2Lock, why because I said so.

 

[t3kc0h]

Have you actually read anything in the conversation? It's NOT me that is telling people I can do better outside DT mode than in them. Don't jump on the damn bandwagon, and read. And think about what was written. Thank you.

I don't have to jump on the bandwagon, I have experience with your smart-🤬 comments already and I've read enough to know you're jumping into ultimate defensive mode after you jumped down someone's throat for not having internet. And all I'm thinking about what was written is, "🤬, that girl has an attitude and the biggest book of making excuses next to her."

I hold more angle then @Gonales and @Lock2Lock, why because I said so.

Is it bad that that post made my day? xD

 

[Streeto]

I hold more angle then @Gonales and @Lock2Lock, why because I said so.

 

[GTGranpa]

(Weeelll.... this escalated quickly!)
Here's my two cents;
I'm not the best drifter out there, that's a given, and I'm not taking sides on this argument going on. Making that clear, I'll reiterate, wheel angle is ALWAYS a plus. One thing is to enter a corner based on pure momentum, then correct to full wheel angle (the possible one), another is to use that same momentum and still hold the angle on acceleration. The last one is obviously easier (there, I said it) and incomparably more plausible to happen on bigger wheel lock. There's no two ways about it. Pure physics.
On the lobbies itself, having been on both types, drift trial lobbies have been INVADED by losy losy players who think we drift for points and this is some kind of arcade mode. HATE IT TO BITS, and only being on DT mode lately, I've kicked more people in...1 week? then in 2 or 3 years of drifting online. I've came to the conclusion I can only hold private lobbies, regardless of having a "0 POINTS GIVEN, JUST TSUISO" lobby title.
The simple solution for this last one is...well...simple, as everyone's been stating; just give us an option to have more wheel lock without the lame flags and point system.
It seems every improvement PD has been doing lately comes hand in hand with another flaw.

Come on now PD, what the hell are you doing there ?
Have you seriously been listening ? And what's with this whole new..."Cafe", "Show your cars" thing, ffs !?

 

[Gonales]

I don't have to jump on the bandwagon, I have experience with your smart-🤬 comments already and I've read enough to know you're jumping into ultimate defensive mode after you jumped down someone's throat for not having internet. And all I'm thinking about what was written is, "🤬, that girl has an attitude and the biggest book of making excuses next to her."

Solely by your response I can see you haven't read it. Don't judge before you read the whole conversation please. Thank you.

I hold more angle then @Gonales and @Lock2Lock, why because I said so.

Remember me to kick your ass just that little bit harder next time we are in a comp.

 

[Serum]

Same ole physics, more steering angle. It's been tested by more than myself. Anyone who thinks otherwise, try modding/hacking a car's angle in tt and go for a few laps. I see guys full locking apexs and exiting all the time without modding, just takes a number of different variables.

 

[t3kc0h]

Same ole physics, more steering angle. It's been tested by more than myself. Anyone who thinks otherwise, try modding/hacking a car's angle in tt and go for a few laps. I see guys full locking apexs and exiting all the time without modding, just takes a number of different variables.

That's what I do really.

 

[Mcrsmokey]

Drifting with a stock differential should never be done.

Huge angles on entry aren't the same as huge angles while hitting clipping points.



MY attitude? Its physically IMPOSSIBLE to get the same amount of lock all through a corner without added steering lock. Don't be daft, and look at the others for what they are: They state claims, they say they can be totally amazing, but both of them are too scared, and childish to prove it.

I don't care what you think of me. Don't like me, your problem. Don't be a jerk because I'm telling people something they don't want to hear.




No, I'm not an elitist, I just don't jump on the bandwagon with all the other morons.

I'm drifting

Solely by your response I can see you haven't read it. Don't judge before you read the whole conversation please. Thank you.



Remember me to kick your ass just that little bit harder next time we are in a comp.

Bet you can't hold as much angle as me in normal online mode .

 

[Gonales]

Bet you can't hold as much angle as me in normal online mode .

Ask me, if I care?

 

[twitcher]

Ask me, if I care?

One of the first sensible replies, from either side of this discussion 👍 I'm not being a dink either, I actually mean that.


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::General discussion, no longer referring to the quote::

If you're not interested in one of the "modes" of drifting, you shouldn't care about what people can and cannot do in it.

This whole argument over which "mode" is "better", is pointless. At the end of the day, neither one is better, they are simply different. Certain styles may be better suited to different "modes", but that doesn't make one better than the other.

And as far as comparing skill across the different modes, that is beyond pointless. In my opinion, if you really feel the need to make claims of "I'm better than you at X Y and Z", then step up and show proficiency in BOTH modes. Demonstrate that you are a true master of drifting in GT6, and that you have the skill and tunes to handle both modes.

 

[Stavingo]

Quick solution: How about nobody cares about other peoples business unless prompted for answers

Wow damn how long did that take to figure out

If you drift with me in any mode just don't give me a Burnout Takedown and crash my car into crap

 

[Mcrsmokey]

Ask me, if I care?

I was joking lol

 

[Stavingo]

I was joking lol

GTP Drifting Forum: Home of seriously serious business

 

[Mcrsmokey]

GTP Drifting Forum: Home of seriously serious business

Home of good friendly drifters. With added big headed morons lol.

 

[Lazy Liquid]

I think that this is a diferent discussion than years ago debating tire choices. In past was obviously easier to realize that only newcommers with no online background would not pick CH, so the split between the community was about 95%/5% maybe?

It´s diferent now. Even well experienced drifters are doing diferent choices. And while (due the filters) the DT is highlighted, easier to find (lets face that GT6 have no social interface like GT5, what makes even harder to find rooms)... the oldschool drift lobies are becoming marginal into the "Race for Fun" segment.

More than like one or another, i would like to see this split ending someday. Everytime i need to swap between DT and oldschool, i have to also to mess with my setups and turning speed. Right now im only using 2 cars, both S-Chassis with around 400+ hp, one set for DT and another set for the older mode.

Well, thats it...
Waiting for 1.07

 

[GTGranpa]

(...)
More than like one or another, i would like to see this split ending someday. Everytime i need to swap between DT and oldschool, i have to also to mess with my setups and turning speed. Right now im only using 2 cars, both S-Chassis with around 400+ hp, one set for DT and another set for the older mode.

Well, thats it...
Waiting for 1.07

Yes, I feel the pain also. Going from DT to "regular" lobby it's a spin party. I think I'm sticking to the DT's only. Obviously not because of the points, but because of the angle.
(I do have a "feeling" though, that a few are more then happy that this split has happened)

 

[Newland]

Dear diary, totally put an idiot in they're place today and asserted my position as the high ruler drift king supreme deluxe. I have the points and steering lock to make sure of it. Must rest now, as the peasent driftards are sure to hate on me tomarrow.
P.S. I just want to clarify again I have more steering lock and am infact the best there ever was.

 

[Lazy Liquid]

Dear diary, totally put an idiot in they're place today and asserted my position as the high ruler drift king supreme deluxe. I have the points and steering lock to make sure of it. Must rest now, as the peasent driftards are sure to hate on me tomarrow.
P.S. I just want to clarify again I have more steering lock and am infact the best there ever was.

Gimme a hug. No tears now, only dreams.

 

[Newland]

Gimme a hug. No tears now, only dreams.

You hug the bed post, then ill hug it so we don't have to actually hug.

 

[twodogsgolden]

I don't see the issue here. If you don't like the drift trials don't use them. Some people like them. Gosh.