I'm amused though
Drag Tunes tend to maximize Front-to-rear weight transfer off of the line so the rear tires get maximized grip under forward acceleration
Irl, but in GT5? In the most cases not, by far the most cases....
, and have transmission ratios selected to maximize smooth, even acceleration between 0-150mph or so, speeds that drift cars do not exceed during cornering.
You see that the wheels spin while drifting? I'm sure you're not using a gear which is set to 50mph when you're drifting a corner with 50mph sideways speed. The gear is usually a bit longer, isn't it?
Just because a car has maximized its acceleration, does not mean that it has poor handling.
Oh they handle terrible! I mean really, it's awful and a pain in the a:censored:. No comparison to good circuit tunes or even drift tunes.
A properly tuned car can accelerate a quarter mile within a tenth of a second of its max potential without having prohibitively detrimental understeer.
No, this is definitely not the case with the huuuuge majority of all RWD cars. There are some extremely weak RWD cars which may allow tuning this way, but believe me, you wouldn't voluntarily drift them either.
As long as the tires are not under considerable Toe-in, they can drift just fine and accelerate out of corners exceedingly well.
Dude! Toe is one of the essential things for drag racing and is, especially if you tune for 1/4, set to extremely high values, unless you tune some ****** low powered :censored:boxes. But you don't drift them anyway most of the time.
Drag tunes usually have a raised rear end without extremely tight suspensions, so during cornering and braking the rear wheels tend to lose traction very quickly under this weight transfer (both longitudinal and lateral).
Just sad that most RWD drag cars in GT5 don't have such a big maximal amount of weight transfer.
The transmissions are tuned so that they have the closest amount of grip they can get at full throttle, which allows a car to be relatively stable under extreme input during or on exit of a corner.
If you mean starting gear: No, we always try to set it as long as possible (without having certain negative effects on acceleration), but this is exactly what makes the car... ehh more unstable, although RWD drag cars are never unstable, unless it's an aero tune, but which occasionally only matters if you tune for longer distances.
If you mean close gear ratios: Not sure why you use the word grip, but yeah close gear ratios are advantageous
It is not a coincidence that almost all of these qualities are also beneficial to drift tuning.
From my experience not that much.
It *is* a case by case scenario, and a full-tuned drag car will not drift perfectly, just as a full-tuned drift car will not drag race at its peak performance,
True! 👍
but it is very possible, likely, and relatively easy to tune the car to do both jobs relatively easily,
Ahhhh! Less true! Much less..... 👎
especially if it is tuned to drag race on lower G-rating tires.
When the f..... a Fiat 500 maybe, but that's pointless.
The only feature of a drag tune that would make a car prohibitively poor to drift is an extreme toe-in on the front or rear wheels that might cancel out any oversteer.
Rear toe is normally set to an extremely high positive value in the rear if you tune for 1/4mile
However, a minor amount in some cars is perfectly acceptable and even easier to control, and even with extreme toe, an experienced drifter can still drift (albeit not very well) without needing inherent oversteer.
Many things are possible, but if it's good and useful is another question.
The simple fact of the matter is that for a car to function properly in any circumstance, drag, drift, or track racing, the tuning must be balanced enough that it is capable of being controlled relatively easily to produce maximum, consistent results. Drifting is so much about car control that whether or not you are a capable driver determines more of how well a car can drift, than its tune. If you can't drift a decent drag car, then you must learn to drift better. Slap some CH tires on a drag tuned 1970 Challenger R/T and if you can't drift it, then you need to improve. My current Challenger tune drifts beautifully on CH, with max power and minimum weight and a drag-tuned transmission.
No compromises for serious drag racing, therefore hardly manageable.
Are drag tunes better than drift tunes, for drifting? No.
I agree!
Are they viable to use in a drift car? Of course.
Mate, it's about how much sense it makes, not if it's possible.
Can a car be okay at drag racing and drifting? Easily.
No
I do both drag racing/tuning and drifting/tuning (drift tuning only for myself though), heck I even tune for circuit racing, but yes, that's another story.
Hahahahaha... golden!
Oh, by the way... i did it. And so far all i can say is apologise myself to Mav and Fox... sounds like they don´t know what they are doing as i imagined. But the thread is just starting, lets see where it goes.
I'm not really amused to hear this.