Drifting in online games - A Warning

[The359]

Since I've gotten back into playing GT5P recently, I've noticed a disturbing trend that, to me, should be obvious, but apparently drifters in GT5P don't even remotely think of doing it.

If you want to use an online gaming session to drift, get out of the way of everybody else.

I've had too many games where some people who clearly had no intention of racing started at the front of the pack, only to attempt to drift their way through ever turn. Guess what, when your car is sideways, it's hard to get past you and try to actually race. A track in use for a race is not your playground. I've seen far to many people who have their races ruined at Turn 1, Turn 2 because some drifter got in their way or blocked them and their had to slow down, and they lost touch with the pack.

If you know from the very start that you, or others you're with, are going to drift, do these two simple things:
* At the start, move over, slow down, let everyone else pass you, then you can start drifting at the tail end of the field.
* If someone is racing and coming up on you, even if you're already a lap down and "invisible", pull over prior to the upcoming corner and let them go through so you don't block their view of the track or impede their progress.

I'd appreciate it if someone would sticky this as a courtesy to those who are using the online sessions for their intended purpose, trying to race.

 

[SLAPHAPPYFRANKY]

Well if you want our respect
1. You need to start off by not demanding it.
2. Change the topic name and take "A WARNING" out of it since you cant do anything about it, but cry.
3. If it bugs you that much then you need to take the game alittle less serious.

Your not winning a trophy when you get 1st. The game is about fun for all players equally so what makes you any better than use? What if I say I want all racers to go wide when they pass me in the turns as it messes up my tandem runs with my fellow drifters?

 

[The359]

Users who are trying to have a race, the way the game is intended and the way the majority of users online will be using the game, have to earn the respectability of the drifters to have some common sense and courtesy that will allow both parties to have fun without disrupting one another?



Try again.

 

[nk4e]

Well, I don't know how it really on GT5P but there were some rules for Forza 2 but I can see if it can be used for an examples for GT5: Drifting
Drifting: ( A small section)
If you crash, get out of the way and wait for the pack to finish with their run before going back to the run. They will wait for you to finish before going back.
If you plan to lead the pack, try not to crash and set up an example for other drifters to follow.
I wouldn't know if there is a waiting room in GT5 , people in the room warn incoming users on what they intend on what to do.

 

[SLAPHAPPYFRANKY]

Users who are trying to have a race, the way the game is intended and the way the majority of users online will be using the game, have to earn the respectability of the drifters to have some common sense and courtesy that will allow both parties to have fun without disrupting one another?



Try again.

No wonder you are on here crying look at the attitude you have.

 

[Boffin]

The359
Fair cop really. First time I tried it I was at suzuka, there were like 10 GTP racers (first time in a long time there were so many), and I was at the start of the pack. Since I had a trillion HP and N2 tyres, a tentativly set off as fast as I could - right for the kerb. I was in a dark blue SL55 if any of you saw it. Any way - Racers get right of way because time matters to them. Simple manners really. I want to drift as much as the next guy but I don't mind being inconvinienced for 10 seconds to let the racers pass - the racers could be inconvinienced for a lap or two.

Oh and SLAPHAPPYFRANKY? The359 crying is a figment of your imagination. No one but you has said that. Great artillery dude.👎

 

[The359]

Just to clarify, this isn't meant for all drifters. I have seen some who, starting at the front, will pull over. This thread is simply because the majority that I've seen lately seem to be ignorant of the racers around them.

 

[GT5PWONT2_DRIFT]

This should be common sense! because it ruins your drift as well.

 

[SLAPHAPPYFRANKY]

The359
Oh and SLAPHAPPYFRANKY? The359 crying is a figment of your imagination. No one but you has said that. Great artillery dude.👎

So what about the other drifters that havent wrote anything? All of the ones Ive spoken to has said the same thing. As you can see Iam the only one in this thread, so you only see my opinion. Iam trying to help him out, so maybe him posting will make a change. Coming in and demanding isnt going to get him no where. Acting as if racers own the road, I payed $40 just the same as the other person trying to race so what gives them the right to have me move over. NONE, moving over for racers is is an option from the drifter and coming off with that kind of attitude makes most of the drifters I know want to stay on the road and not move. So you can go ahead and put your and 👎 all you want, but remember its up to the drifters as to what actually happens.

 

[lildomplaya]

I just want to say we don't have the grip to pull over in like 1 second. Wheelspin is a factor since we drift low grip tires, & as I see when I look back others are avoiding us just as fine. Apparently, whose playground is it?

 

[Paulie]

The359, I always pull over myself and was not aware there were other drifters from here that didn't. Even though I'm not big on drifting and suck badly at it, if I happen to catch anyone not pulling over I will definitely send them a message. Hell, even when I'm being lapped and I'm a ghost I pull over, common courtesy.

Well if you want our respect
1. You need to start off by not demanding it.
2. Change the topic name and take "A WARNING" out of it since you cant do anything about it, but cry.
3. If it bugs you that much then you need to take the game alittle less serious.

Your not winning a trophy when you get 1st. The game is about fun for all players equally so what makes you any better than use? What if I say I want all racers to go wide when they pass me in the turns as it messes up my tandem runs with my fellow drifters?

Mate, it is common courtesy to pull over at the start, as we are entering a grip race. If there are people not pulling over for the racers, then The359 has every right to demand they do. Additionally, you should be thankful for the warning, as he could just have easily reported you on the GTP Registry. If you're not already a member there it could also result in difficulties for you if you ever try in the future.

I just want to say we don't have the grip to pull over in like 1 second. Wheelspin is a factor since we drift low grip tires, & as I see when I look back others are avoiding us just as fine. Apparently, whose playground is it?

In race tuning functions is all I can say. Turn the traction on and get aside as soon as possible. Even if you're not completely off by the time the guy behind is coming through, you will have at least left a nice gap for him to get through. Once everyone has passed, turn traction off again and away you go.

 

[Boffin]

So what about the other drifters that havent wrote anything? All of the ones Ive spoken to has said the same thing.

.....er.....proof? If you want to go into that, look at how many threads there are with people saying that we should pull over should we want to drift. Your comment is the first that I've ever heard saying anything different. So you and your supposive numbers mean nothing right now untill you can back up those claims...in a later post, I'll do the same. Besides, reasons for pulling over are far greater than to go spoiling everyone's race. Liken it to bicyclists on the road when there is a perfectly good, marked cycle path on the pavemant. All they are doing is slowing everyone up, and making a point by going 1/2 speed just cause they can and it shows cars that they have as much right of way.
Go onto the cycle path and wait 10 seconds.
10 seconds.....10.....TEN SECONDS you will have to stop to avoid racers ruin a WHOLE 5-15 minute race. If you aren't willing to do that, it's selfish in my eyes.

PAULY
Yeh...that was my problem as I stated before in my trillion billion HP SL55 on N2s. Since I'm a PAD user I can't turn on and turn off tcs midgame, and since the SL's got that auto 'box, you just floor it in first and then quikly flick down gears.

 

[Paulie]

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PAULIE
Yeh...that was my problem as I stated before in my trillion billion HP SL55 on N2s. Since I'm a PAD user I can't turn on and turn off tcs midgame, and since the SL's got that auto 'box, you just floor it in first and then quikly flick down gears.

I had my controller set up to use the in race tuning, it's not impossible.

 

[Boffin]

ah ha... I see now....

 

[Goracle]

HEY HEY HEY

why not we just all get along... and instead, in a united manner.. COMPLAIN TO PD!

It surely ain't our fault us "outsiders" aren't as privileged as you grippers

But for the time being, we will indirectly protest and drift as we please

Drifter Domination has begun!

HAHA, jk, but really. Bug PD about it.

 

[Fujiwara-kun]

Ive never seen a drifter go drift infont of grippers at the start...
I know I havent drifted ahead...

Plus with the PP advantage couldnt you not overtake a N3 RWD car at the start...?




Wheres the threat...?

 

[Renetje89SF]

I never try to drift if i still have and others the chance to win or can catch up with the front.
When i see its no use to push to the limit i start to drift to die out the time of the painfull 10 long laps .

 

[rofajole]

I'm sorry but I really don't know what you are talking about. Since I remember, every time I drift with the people from the chat room, we always pull over to the right or left of the track, and then start drifting after the pack has done, or is half-way, the 1st turn. The only tiem I remember I drifted with the pack, it was during the Ferrari Event on Suzy. It was me and RL drifting California's on S3 tires, S3, not N tires!! with 650pp. In that event we were passing the grippers in full drifts... ahhh a lot of fun! lol

 

[Fujiwara-kun]

I'm sorry but I really don't know what you are talking about. Since I remember, every time I drift with the people from the chat room, we always pull over to the right or left of the track, and then start drifting after the pack has done, or is half-way, the 1st turn. The only tiem I remember I drifted with the pack, it was during the Ferrari Event on Suzy. It was me and RL drifting California's on S3 tires, S3, not N tires!! with 650pp. In that event we were passing the grippers in full drifts... ahhh a lot of fun! lol

When grip drift succeeds it is allways a drifters win.
Came 3rd with a Viper on S2's at 650 or 750 once lol

Yea all drifters I know turn left or right... and all drift with N3's usually... unless there are no events like the No mercy match was S2's

 

[Delphic Reason]

359 is absolutely correct. The online mode is for racing first and foremost. If one is drifting, one should always get out of the way of those racing. As someone has already said, it only inconveniences a drifter for 10 seconds or so. It can effect the outcome of a race for someone actually going for time.

SLAPHAPPYFRANKY:

Your argument doesn't hold water. This is a racing game. Racers are always going to have the right away in a "racing mode". When the full game is released, there probably will be an online "drift mode". Until then, we as drifters need to be courteous to the people utilizing the mode for what it was designed for. As others have said, this should be common sense.

 

[The359]

Ive never seen a drifter go drift infont of grippers at the start...
I know I havent drifted ahead...

Plus with the PP advantage couldnt you not overtake a N3 RWD car at the start...?




Wheres the threat...?

Expert, Daytona Road Course 550PP, 4 or 5 cars in a race. A drift car setup with huge horsepower and junk tires, if he's not at the max 550pp and starting at the front, will block everyone for at least the first two, three, or four corners, simply because it'd be impossible for everyone to pass him in time, and the huge horsepower makes him impossible to pass on the straights.

 

[The359]

I just want to say we don't have the grip to pull over in like 1 second. Wheelspin is a factor since we drift low grip tires, & as I see when I look back others are avoiding us just as fine. Apparently, whose playground is it?

You have much more than 1 second at the race starts, and the map on the HUD shows you in plenty of time when someone is approaching you.

 

[Sphinx]

No wonder you are on here crying look at the attitude you have.

No, look at your attitude. If you can't use common sense whilst drifting Online then perhaps you'll be better off being a member elsewhere.

HEY HEY HEY

why not we just all get along... and instead, in a united manner.. COMPLAIN TO PD!

It surely ain't our fault us "outsiders" aren't as privileged as you grippers

But for the time being, we will indirectly protest and drift as we please

Drifter Domination has begun!

HAHA, jk, but really. Bug PD about it.

"HAHA" I hope you are.

 

[Fujiwara-kun]

Expert, Daytona Road Course 550PP, 4 or 5 cars in a race. A drift car setup with huge horsepower and junk tires, if he's not at the max 550pp and starting at the front, will block everyone for at least the first two, three, or four corners, simply because it'd be impossible for everyone to pass him in time, and the huge horsepower makes him impossible to pass on the straights.

Touche...

If I was in this situation I would nudge him off the track. It would be his fault anyway

I wonder who it was...? This PAL or NTSC?

 

[The359]

This was at least 4 or 5 people over the past 4 days. One time I did have to punt one of them simply because it's all but unavoidable. Sliding back and forth on the straight makes it impossible to get alongside him, he drifts into the first hairpin right on the apex, I'm obviously able to corner faster, there's nowhere for me to go. Bump.

My race was pretty well screwed at that point. Remember, there is no catch-up in the Expert level races with Pro Physics.

 

[SLAPHAPPYFRANKY]

No, look at your attitude. If you can't use common sense whilst drifting Online then perhaps you'll be better off being a member elsewhere.

Mate, it is common courtesy to pull over at the start, as we are entering a grip race. If there are people not pulling over for the racers, then The359 has every right to demand they do. Additionally, you should be thankful for the warning, as he could just have easily reported you on the GTP Registry. If you're not already a member there it could also result in difficulties for you if you ever try in the future.

You guys act as if Iam the one ramming him off the road. Iam simply telling him then way he is comming off with this demanding attitude isnt going to get him anywhere. WHY CANT YOU REALIZE THIS.

The359,
Mate, it is common courtesy to pull over at the start, as we are entering a grip race. If there are people not pulling over for the racers, then The359 has every right to demand they do. Additionally, you should be thankful for the warning, as he could just have easily reported you on the GTP Registry. If you're not already a member there it could also result in difficulties for you if you ever try in the future.

Well basically I could careless as to being reported on the GTP registry. If that makes you feel better than report me as I have done nothing wrong.

SLAPHAPPYFRANKY:
your argument doesn't hold water. This is a racing game. Racers are always going to have the right away in a "racing mode". When the full game is released, there probably will be an online "drift mode". Until then, we as drifters need to be courteous to the people utilizing the mode for what it was designed for. As others have said, this should be common sense.

Exaclty the key word "courteous". It is an option to move or not and with him being demanding it isnt going to help him. Iam trying to help him by telling him what he did wrong and then you guys act as if Iam the one hitting him. This thread is just retarded

 

[rofajole]

OHH and by the way, The359, your usage of "A warning" in the title isn't scaring none of the drifters. It's not like we are gonna get off the road because you possibly just can't get sideways at 90mph+ like most of us. I really don't understand on the drifters you are talking about. All the ones I drift with are very courteous and let the grippers pass, or at least most of them.

 

[McLaren]

OHH and by the way, The359, your usage of "A warning" in the title isn't scaring none of the drifters. It's not like we are gonna get off the road because you possibly just can't get sideways at 90mph+ like most of us. I really don't understand on the drifters you are talking about. All the ones I drift with are very courteous and let the grippers pass, or at least most of them.

Why the hell would he want to do that if he & others are trying to race? I get the rest of your argument, but that sentence really is out of place.

 

[boiltheocean]

I'm pretty sure some rules have been laid out before but this seems to be more precise. May I suggest using clear bullet points, just to tidy stuff up.

 

[Delphic Reason]

You guys act as if Iam the one ramming him off the road. Iam simply telling him then way he is comming off with this demanding attitude isnt going to get him anywhere. WHY CANT YOU REALIZE THIS.

You are the only one that thought he came here with an attitude. You seem to be the only person in this thread jumping up and down screaming like a child.

Well basically I could careless as to being reported on the GTP registry. If that makes you feel better than report me as I have done nothing wrong.

Ummmm. Sphinx (like myself) is a Supermoderator. This means if you keep pushing and making nonsensical posts, he can very well remove you from this site completely. No more GTP for you at all. If this is in your interest, by all means keep it up.

Exaclty the key word "courteous". It is an option to move or not and with him being demanding it isnt going to help him. Iam trying to help him by telling him what he did wrong and then you guys act as if Iam the one hitting him. This thread is just retarded

The problem is, he didn't do anything wrong. You are the only one in the wrong here. Everyone else agrees it is the right thing to do to get out of the way at all costs. 359 makes a thread about a subject I'm sure has bothered many users (myself included, and I am a drifter/racer), and you breathe down his neck like he's the problem. If you subscribe to the idea that it is an "option" to move out of the way or not, you are going to make a lot of enemies around here. This is not a "drifting game", it is a "racing game" that has an offline mode for drifting as a bit of an afterthought. As I (and many others) have said, you may get your online "drifting mode" in the full game. Until then, if you want to drift online, use a little common sense and get out of peoples way that are utilizing the game for the intended purpose. Some people are online racing in tournaments, and someone blocking there way with a sideways Ferrari can be not only a major annoyance, but can lose them the race.

I'm still struggling to see how you're missing this...

OHH and by the way, The359, your usage of "A warning" in the title isn't scaring none of the drifters. It's not like we are gonna get off the road because you possibly just can't get sideways at 90mph+ like most of us. I really don't understand on the drifters you are talking about. All the ones I drift with are very courteous and let the grippers pass, or at least most of them.

This is just silly. Where to start?...

First of all, why would he want to drift in the first place? Just because it's something you enjoy, everyone else is either missing out or just inept? That's a very narrow view of the world. Not only that, but who says he cannot? Quite a big assumption, and I'm sure you know what they say about those.

Secondly, I've been drifting and racing in GT5 since the day it came out, and I have seen hundreds of drifters block/knock or otherwise screw with people during races. Some intentional, most unintentional, but nevertheless an easily avoidable problem. I have also seen drifters that are courteous and get out of the way, but I'm sorry to say I've probably seen more that have become problematic.