Drifting Tires.

[Streeto]

As i have always driven with automatic transmission in games, I think it will be a bit hard for me to adjust to manual and then start drifting with it.

I used automatic in GT1-GT4, only in GT5 did I start using it, so I understand.

You will pick it up quicker than you think, and it will make your drifting smoother/easier, not harder.

All you have to do is listen to your engine to know what gear to be in.

On the limiter? Gear up. Low RPM and not enough power? Gear down.

Simples.

 

[JR86]

Thanks. So in order to get gold on the drift challenge I need to learn how to drive with manual transmission? Seems like a lot of effort for 1 challenge

I'm used to manual transmission in real life, but then I don't drive as fast as possible, for games I always used automatic.

I was in a similar position in GT4. If I wanted to drift I had to use a manual transmission, which I had never done before. I still pulled through and got to learn how to use a manual transmission and now I love it. I feel it can help your racing slightly by not having the car shift right when it hits the redline.

 

[Warren4649]

Automatic lol. You're probably American... Learn to use manual it's not rocket science, only casuals and 4 year olds play with AT.

 

[Sracer179]

Automatic lol. You're probably American... Learn to use manual it's not rocket science, only casuals and 4 year olds play with AT.

Assuming someone is American because they drift on automatic? The ignorance and immaturity in this one is real. Why don't you give them proper advice on what settings to drift on rather than saying that only 4 year olds and casuals use AT.

 

[xiSealHDz]

Well for me thr CH compound works the best 👍

 

[Ivo001]

Automatic lol. You're probably American... Learn to use manual it's not rocket science, only casuals and 4 year olds play with AT.

You can check my age and country on my profile page.
While i played a decent amount of gt5 (all events completed except the endurance), you could call me casual for using a Dualshock 3, AT and some other aids.
But whats bad about being "casual"? As long as I enjoy the game I'm fine.

 

[Warren4649]

Blame gt for having such a poor AT simulation.

The only game where you could efficiently drift AT was enthusia because this game simulated real automatic transmissions (and not the crappy arcad'ish AT we have in gt and other games). Actually you couldn't even use a car in manual if it didn't come with manual from factory IRL, drifting these cars was actually fun and challenging. If only pd implemented this, would be a cool feature and it's not even something hard to add.

 

[Serum]

You can try semi-auto if you are dead set on auto. Just hold down the button when you shift up and it will stay in gear until you release it...if that still works, it did in older GT games.

 

[DrifTa-AJV]

Hey guys
Not meaning to moan and groan but I'm really frustrated with the new tyre models. I was really looking forward to the new physics I didn't play the demo. So far I've spent countless hours trying on different tire compounds to dial in my fav missiles and with no luck what so ever. Constant under steer , tail slapping and over spin I'm using a g25 wheel. I love the new suspension model but the tires just ruin it GT5 was fun on CH but I was hoping for a more realistic grip feeling. CH still feels like skating around on ice and drifting should feel more realistic on a sports tire if I light up the rear tires in 400hp car they get max traction nearly instantly with a slight release of throttle. I love GT6 and I hope the tires get a look at in an update later on.

 

[cyberfella]

Off throttle snap is driving me mad. I'm softening the rear end, running reverse rake, loads of rear toe, 7/40/45 diff but it's still there. It's like a bug! HELP!!

Devin (@BayouSimDrifter ) and I did some extreme testing last night. With a properly setup suspension the off throttle snap is greatly demished. And with fine tuning it will be completely gone. Ask us how we know.

 

[Warren4649]

It's like don't use comfort medium and most of your snap back will disappear.

 

[haubi]

just letting off the gas seems to be a bad idea in gt6, I now try to feather it a little when letting off, seems to help. sometimes it still tankslaps around like a you know what...

edit: especially on CS, on CM and CH I didn't think it was much of a problem

 

[artica]

I thought it was the physics, but it's possible it could also be the tires.

 

[Stavingo]

Hey guys
Not meaning to moan and groan but I'm really frustrated with the new tyre models. I was really looking forward to the new physics I didn't play the demo. So far I've spent countless hours trying on different tire compounds to dial in my fav missiles and with no luck what so ever. Constant under steer , tail slapping and over spin I'm using a g25 wheel. I love the new suspension model but the tires just ruin it GT5 was fun on CH but I was hoping for a more realistic grip feeling. CH still feels like skating around on ice and drifting should feel more realistic on a sports tire if I light up the rear tires in 400hp car they get max traction nearly instantly with a slight release of throttle. I love GT6 and I hope the tires get a look at in an update later on.

Holy 🤬 you're still around here? Welcome back dude 👍 haven't drifted with you in ages.

Though I do use CH and I find no problem with other tyre compounds.

 

[MadFlavour]

Comfort Hards seem to do it for me.

 

[Ivo001]

Somehow managed to score 5300+ on 1 run wit AT and CH. Only got 800 loints it the first corner though

 

[DrifTa-AJV]

Holy 🤬 you're still around here? Welcome back dude 👍 haven't drifted with you in ages.

Though I do use CH and I find no problem with other tyre compounds.

Hey mate

Thanks wouldn't mind catching up for a drift again I'm in the middle of building a rig at the moment. Gt6 inspired me to return GT5's lack of dlc and tracks made me loose interest I'm really hoping this new GPS course maker and point A to B race thing turns out to be as good as it sounds.

Back to the subject don't get me wrong I can drift on CH tires. My main point was just a slight disappointment in the tire model especially considering the work that was put in with YOKAHAMA/ADVAN on the model. Example being In real life the D1GP cars in game run on sports tires someone please correct me if I'm wrong but I think semi slicks Either way they are better softer compound than GT's CH. Now in GT6 to replicate what these cars are capable of we have to put CH tires on, there is maybe someone out there that could do it on the SH it comes with but I highly doubt anyone could link a whole track.

I know that the game is not really designed with us drifters in mind and after some thought I honestly wonder if the programmers have actually grinded away on tracks with Comfort range tires. I was just hoping for some better grip for drifting a more realistic feel when I smash the throttle to the floor to feel the rear tires pushing the car forward as well as sliding if you know what I mean not handling like this.



Compared to this Watch these cars when the throttles on they drive forward and there is still a well maintained level of grip. Even to the point they actually gain speed watch them pull away from the chase cam.



GT6



Not me drifting either I just grabbed a vid off Youtube to demonstrate

 

[ProtegeDrifter]

To the guy above me, you are correct and I would like to expand on your post.

1. Yea GT6 is not created with us drifters in mind.

2. GT6 doesn't simulate throttle response while drifting as realistically as people think it does.

3. CH tires are fine to drift on and the highest tire compound one can go to before gaining unrealistic amounts of grip in terms if drifting is CM.

4. CH work fine and any issue anyone has with them is due to human error (misconceptions on tuning, stubbornness in terms of traditional tuning methods from GT5, just plain ignorance)

5. I think the d1 cars come with CS I might be wrong.

To GTP drifting community:

I'm not here to chest flick anyone I'm just saying I see 95% of a already dead community complaining 24/7 about this and that and honestly it's less PD messing up and more the GT community giving up. Honestly 90% of you have never done anything more than grassroots to amateur drifting (myself included) so before you complain about something you know nothing about why not sit back learn the game and try to excel. I would be more then willing to help anybody out if they want it, funny thing is, no one wants help, they just wanna sit and b****.


Ranting session over

 

[DrifTa-AJV]

I'm not here to chest flick anyone I'm just saying I see 95% of a already dead community complaining 24/7 about this and that and honestly it's less PD messing up and more the GT community giving up. Honestly 90% of you have never done anything more than grassroots to amateur drifting (myself included) so before you complain about something you know nothing about why not sit back learn the game and try to excel. I would be more then willing to help anybody out if they want it, funny thing is, no one wants help, they just wanna sit and b****.

Mate what I find funny is your a whole part of 16-18 years of age I bet have probably been driving a real car for 1 year and claiming that people don't know what there talking about that's why this community is dying because every one is an expert with no experience. Why don't you stop complaining about people complaining because the way I see it so many people wouldn't be complaining if there wasn't anything wrong.

As for learning the game that's what everyone is doing they don't have to be like you and enjoy it. Instead they persist with problems that are present and except them.

Point being comfort hard tires are crap and do not portray realistic physics or grip levels in any way they are not fine.

End of rant

 

[Rdp616]

I can't drift on comfort tires anymore simple because of the terrible noise. Most may disagree but i think sports hard is the closest thing to a regular high performance real life street tire, and that's what i use when i drift. Also my average car i choose to drift is usually 700hp+.

I'll throw on comforts if i'm in something sub 350hp, but i never use hards, they're just too slick, feels like you're on ice.

Sucks because lately every single room i enter has been restricted to comforts. Hard to find rooms where i can run SH. I don't know how some of you put up with the sound.

 

[Warren4649]

You obviously play on a controller.

 

[Downhill Dino]

@Warren4649 I use a wheel and use sports hard tires, doesn't automatically mean someone uses a controller. He has good reasoning as to why he doesn't use them and you seem to have missed the point. I feel the same way about the comfort tires.

 

[Warren4649]

Lol SH tires are even snappier than CH tires and so does the grip difference when drifting vs not drifting + unless you have something with more than 500hp you can't link any corner... Not drifting.

 

[Downhill Dino]

Lol SH tires are even snappier than CH tires and so does the grip difference when drifting vs not drifting +

What.

unless you have something with more than 500hp you can't link any corner...

Of course you can link corners with something under 500hp, I'm no drift king (I drift for fun) but I do see it occur.

Not drifting.

Oh so you have to link corners for it to be considered drifting? Let me just .

 

[Warren4649]

You can rolleyes all you want in gt6 using sports tires don't allow you to do real drifting, just power sliding. As long as gt will have a half assed tire model it'll remain like this (excellent for grip, not so much for drift). It's pretty unrealistic that you have to change tire compound to some low grip plastic tire to achieve something that look like real life drifting, heck even enthusia on ps2 was doing better than that and there was only one tire compound iirc.

 

[Downhill Dino]

Are you bring serious? I can understand someone calling 4WD drifting powersliding but saying that lets say the same car uses comfort tires, its drifting, but without it isn't. What? That doesn't even make sense.

 

[Warren4649]

Are you bring serious? I can understand someone calling 4WD drifting powersliding but saying that lets say the same car uses comfort tires, its drifting, but without it isn't. What? That doesn't even make sense.

So explain me why 95% of the community is sticking to ch tires? Also have you ever drifted in real life? I tried using sports hard in gt6 and it doesn't even feel like what you would compare to sports softs IRL (like federal rs 595). You can't let go the throttle for the slightest moment without having understeering issues. Not realistic at all, CH tires either but it's far less noticeable.

 

[Downhill Dino]

So explain me why 95% of the community is sticking to ch tires?

GTPlanet's Drift Section's community is not the entire community. Try again.

Also have you ever drifted in real life?

Alas, I have not. Rocking that Civic these days. Which does put a bit of a damper on the value of my input. But this is a game, that is not very close to real life after all.

You can't let go the throttle for the slightest moment without having understeering issues. Not realistic at all, CH tires either but it's far less noticeable.

And understeering is a problem? Doesn't mean you can't drift. And if you're having issues with it, why not change up the tune?

Also, how is it not realistic?

 

[Streeto]

Alas, I have not. Rocking that Civic these days. Which does put a bit of a damper on the value of my input. But this is a game, that is not very close to real life after all.

Also, how is it not realistic?

 

[Downhill Dino]

Haha. Fair enough. How did I not catch that? Minus the last "How is that not realistic" bit, the first two don't have much relevance. But yes, I seemed to have stepped on my own foot there.