Captain Trips
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Fine. I screwed up. Sorry about that. I just wanted to put in some feedback on GT4 vs. IRL.
Drifting too easy with DS2, but harder on DFP.
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Fine. I screwed up. Sorry about that. I just wanted to put in some feedback on GT4 vs. IRL.
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ok, where were we before all of... that
I used to have my wheel set AS off, PS on, FF mild - it didnt feel too bad that way. But, I was extremely unsuccessful drifting with this setup. The realatively weak wheel lead me into the habit of steering too much (it took me awhile to realize this - I thought I was simply steering too slowly to make the essential adjustments).
I now have turned up the FF and that has helped my dfp drifting by restricting my movements. But as I stated earlier - the degree to which these settings simulate driving in RL is small, IMO. You have a wheel, and a couple pedals, and you use them just as you would in a road car. But the feel is different. You're expected to feel everything in your hands, as opposed to in your seat or stomach, or through the pedals.
Such is the limit of video games, I suppose.
Then again, it's a far cry better than the DS2. With exception to wheelchair/handicapped accessible vehicles, or GM's hywire, you'd be hard pressed to find a car you can drive with just your thumbs and index fingers.
DriftingDreamer
I used to have my wheel set AS off, PS on, FF mild - it didnt feel too bad that way. But, I was extremely unsuccessful drifting with this setup. The realatively weak wheel lead me into the habit of steering too much (it took me awhile to realize this - I thought I was simply steering too slowly to make the essential adjustments).
I now have turned up the FF and that has helped my dfp drifting by restricting my movements. But as I stated earlier - the degree to which these settings simulate driving in RL is small, IMO. You have a wheel, and a couple pedals, and you use them just as you would in a road car. But the feel is different. You're expected to feel everything in your hands, as opposed to in your seat or stomach, or through the pedals.
Such is the limit of video games, I suppose.
Then again, it's a far cry better than the DS2. With exception to wheelchair/handicapped accessible vehicles, or GM's hywire, you'd be hard pressed to find a car you can drive with just your thumbs and index fingers.
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Captain Trips
Considering pretty much every driving event you need to be 18+ to drive in, you're not of the legal age for sanctioned events. Minors legally cannot enter into a contract thats legally binding on their own. Driving at any event you sign that extra long, fine printed waiver and take responsibility for everything, as well as everyone around you. You'd need on site parental consent, confirmation that you're insured for the car you're driving, and in some cases depending if it's a street car or not...that it's also up to date with safety inspections/registration.
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off topic....but why do these nice threads get off topic everytime c-trips posts.... 👎
Who cares if you drift in rl....this is a gt4 forum and should stay that way....GO POST YOUR AUTOMOTIVE FANTASY elsewhere! I personally am getting tired of seeing threads go so far off topic....
SHUT UP AND DRIFT.
besides that...Why do you (c-trip) attack the mod of gtp...i mean...swift does a lot for us and you attempt to bash him...he should bash you with a ban... 💡
Back on topic my dfp settings are the following...FF on full steering on simulation....to see it find me on xlink.
Who cares if you drift in rl....this is a gt4 forum and should stay that way....GO POST YOUR AUTOMOTIVE FANTASY elsewhere! I personally am getting tired of seeing threads go so far off topic....
SHUT UP AND DRIFT.
besides that...Why do you (c-trip) attack the mod of gtp...i mean...swift does a lot for us and you attempt to bash him...he should bash you with a ban... 💡
Back on topic my dfp settings are the following...FF on full steering on simulation....to see it find me on xlink.
Hehe anyways, back on topic. Cheesecake, discuss.
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What are you going on about? The events I'm talking about are things that a few guys would hold in back road and parking lots. They aren't official events, per se.
It's called Debate.
Captain Trips
why is this called a debate? is it because your debating on if your going to lie some more or not? doesnt look like one to me.
and this isnt the place to discuss your illegal activities either.
lets get back on track, and back to the orgional topic, because there are 2 pages of offtopic shyte.
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lol well anyways let me get this straight (on-topic, no "tripping" involved)
so just leave the wheel as it is suppose to be (FF strong, etc) and it'll still be closer to the real thing when compared to the ds2...i gotcha...even though it does have a mild effect on your driving IRL, it isn't too severe
so just leave the wheel as it is suppose to be (FF strong, etc) and it'll still be closer to the real thing when compared to the ds2...i gotcha...even though it does have a mild effect on your driving IRL, it isn't too severe
Well, I Have Seen That The "official" Wheel To Drift Is A Drive Force Pro ($$$wooowww$$$), I Have A Speedster 3 , That In Grip Mode Is Fantastic But For Drifting.......is A Bit Difficult. Its True That I Just Start To Try Drifting, Im Practising With Digital Pad And Buttoms And It Is Getting Results But More Slow That I Had Thought.
I Think Start Drifting Is A Long Travel , And Ill Walk Along For Increase My Drift Level But Man....its So Difficult!!!!
I Think Start Drifting Is A Long Travel , And Ill Walk Along For Increase My Drift Level But Man....its So Difficult!!!!
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Well, I finally had a chance to try drifting with the DFP on 900 mode... I have to say, I was quite pleased... Although, I would say the complete opposite from everyone thus far... I thought drifting was much easier with the wheel (especially in 900 mode)... Maybe it's because I have been driving a long time, and I have been drifting for a few years now, but I found the 900 mode gobs easier than using the dual shock 2 analog sticks (or any other method, for that matter)... Initiating and controlling seemed so much more intuitive, and the experience was more invigorating, being as the wheel gives a more realistic feel to the driving experience... I will be buying a DFP very soon... DR will no longer be a smooth DS drifter... He will now be a smooth DFP drifter...
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That is curious indeed, since, the DFP isn't realistic (for drift). As someone who has drifting experience; you know the DFP is not true to life. Invigorating sure, but intuitive? That isn't to say that the DFP might be right for you, but I'd venture to say it has very little to do with whatever driving experience you have.
That aside, congrats on finding a new tool that works for you.
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No, the DFP isn't perfectly realistic, but it is the most realistic representation of controlling a real vehicle that we have... That being said, it came natural to me... I am a real drifter, so I have a good idea of when to start countersteering, how much to countersteer, etc... Thus, the transition to the wheel was painless, for me anyway... The force feadback leaves a lot to be desired, but the feeling of the wheel is pretty good... I think it will be quite a long time before we have trully realistic force feadback in a racing wheel, so for now, I'll just deal with that little flaw...
I just got off work, and it's raining outside... I can hear my S13 calling me... Time for some rainy recreation...
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lol well that's good news cause we got sooo many ppl saying it is the opposite of RL blah blah
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well, i just saw the title of this thread and wanted to give a short comment.
DRIFTING IS NEVER TOO EASY.
you can say it's too easy only and only if you can show me you can link trial mountain's turns 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, and nail that sucker everytime. Until then, drifting is never too easy 👍
just my $.02
DRIFTING IS NEVER TOO EASY.
you can say it's too easy only and only if you can show me you can link trial mountain's turns 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, and nail that sucker everytime. Until then, drifting is never too easy 👍
just my $.02
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Mr.Code
Explain... Such a vague comment... What part of my post brought you to this realization?...
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While it is definately more challenging on the whole to drift with the DPF as compared to the DS2 (I had a DS2 for the longest time), alot of the ease of drifting on the DS2 comes from the Automatic steering aadjustment option (can't remember what it's called). This is why the car straightens so easily when you just snap the steering from loock to lock. The PS2 is actually doing the fine adjustments for you.
Another note. While it is on the whole easier, there are certain cars that are next to impossible to drift of the DS2 (powerful RR cars like the RUF). I had all but given up on these cars until I got a DFP, but now find that they provide some of the longest and most satisfying drifts to be had. Seriously doubt that it could be pulled off on DS2 as waaay to much fine wheel/ throttle work is required to make it controllable.
Another note. While it is on the whole easier, there are certain cars that are next to impossible to drift of the DS2 (powerful RR cars like the RUF). I had all but given up on these cars until I got a DFP, but now find that they provide some of the longest and most satisfying drifts to be had. Seriously doubt that it could be pulled off on DS2 as waaay to much fine wheel/ throttle work is required to make it controllable.
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advanced apologies but his might not be the correct place to post this but seems the closest to what im looking for.
I have had a dfp for about a week now and to be honest i stink with it! i know there are no miracle settings wich will turn me into a drifting god but i have fiddled with the dfp setting and to be fair apart from the strength they dont seem to do much. Can anybody explain what each setting does in at least some detail? it would be much appreciated.
Also any suggested setting for the DFP would be great.
Cheers
Specialized
edited: Because i made a stupid mistake
I have had a dfp for about a week now and to be honest i stink with it! i know there are no miracle settings wich will turn me into a drifting god but i have fiddled with the dfp setting and to be fair apart from the strength they dont seem to do much. Can anybody explain what each setting does in at least some detail? it would be much appreciated.
Also any suggested setting for the DFP would be great.
Cheers
Specialized
edited: Because i made a stupid mistake
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GreycapExcuse me for my dumminess, but what is a DFP2?
sorry thats my dumbness i ment driving force pro
Danoff
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It takes longer to get good at the dfp than a week. I've had mine for a long time now practicing off and on here and there, and I'm still not good at it. Just think about how long it took you to get good with the DS2 (if you used that before), it'll take at least that long with the dfp.
I was really happy with my racing with the ds2. I competed in the WRS and did well. I was able to drift all kinds of cars and had lots of fun watching cool replays of me doing killer drifts (though none of that crazy 540 degree drifting stuff some of the people around here have done). When I switched to the dfp I was slow and couldn't drift any more. Since getting the wheel I've refused to use the ds2 until I get good at it, and it has taken some time.
Now I can drift with the wheel... though not as good as I was. And I'm getting to the point where I feel like I'm pretty fast. Drifting with the wheel (as many people on this thread have said) is harder. You simply can't get your input to the car as fast. Lock to lock takes you a fraction of a second on the ds2 and takes quite a while on the dfp.
All I can say is that there are lots of threads, and people around here that will give you tips on drifting with the dfp. Good luck.
only 4 hours? you cant be good or decent in under 4 hours.PuTTe_TuTTewell. seems like I suck really bad. I've been drifting with the DS2 for about 4 hours now and still cant drift too well!
im sure it took me over 4 months after gt4 came out to get used to drifting with the wheel. keep praticing and youll get better as time goes by and as youve had more seat time.
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The hardest part about learning the DFP for me (still) is that I have a semi-functional DF that I'm used to. I should just take a hammer and smash that pos so I'm forced to sit down with the pro.. but then again..
And as for learning time, at least try a few weeks of focused practice before judging your progress. I learned the DF pretty quick, but I imagine the DFP (900d) would take a bit longer because of the more vague feedback and the fact that you have to throw the wheel around and cross hands. Just knowing where your wheels are pointing at any time takes practice with the DFP..
And as for learning time, at least try a few weeks of focused practice before judging your progress. I learned the DF pretty quick, but I imagine the DFP (900d) would take a bit longer because of the more vague feedback and the fact that you have to throw the wheel around and cross hands. Just knowing where your wheels are pointing at any time takes practice with the DFP..
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