Drive of your Life...

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So, I dunno if I'm crazy or what, but I got what I think is a really cool idea.

Since GT has claimed from GT1 to be a 'driving' sim, not just a 'racing' sim, and since a lot of GT fans like to drive their cars just as much as racing with them, I think it'd be cool if GT5 had special 'tracks', not real race tracks, but just different locations to go drive at. These special 'tracks' wouldn't be used for any racing event whatsoever, just intended for driving. These areas could range from empty parking lots to old, low-traffic highways.
 
empty parking garage... that was kinda done in GT4....
and low traffic highways... its a really fun idea... but... IDK lol too off the road idea as well ;)
 
So, I dunno if I'm crazy or what, but I got what I think is a really cool idea.

Since GT has claimed from GT1 to be a 'driving' sim, not just a 'racing' sim, and since a lot of GT fans like to drive their cars just as much as racing with them, I think it'd be cool if GT5 had special 'tracks', not real race tracks, but just different locations to go drive at. These special 'tracks' wouldn't be used for any racing event whatsoever, just intended for driving. These areas could range from empty parking lots to old, low-traffic highways.

Yea I know exactly what you mean. Back in GT4, what I used to do is take stock cars and take it on a "cruise" on the Nur. Nothing crazy just a nice relaxing drive. I think the implementation of that Idea would be pretty cool.
 
will never happen in a game but...

local downloadable free roam city maps. live in LA? download the LA map and drive around.

thatd be sweet.
 
Yup I've always wanted that as well, specifically some sections from different roads. I would go with a couple backroads in the high desert and mountains of northern arizona, most of Little Tujunga Rd in LA, and some of the small roads in the Malibu hills. Those are of course accompanied by the Stelvio, Furkha, St. Gothard, and other amazing passes and roads in the Alps and the Trollstiegen and Lysebotn roads in Norway. I'm sure there's many more I haven't thought of as well.
 
I sometimes take a casual drive around race tracks. It's usually best around street courses because it's the best feeling of actually taking your car out for a drive in a great environment. Almost like you're doing a car show while enjoying the city life.

There would be a huge fallacy to all of this... it would take away from doing actual racing. "But John, what about Photo Mode? You call that racing?" No. All I'm saying is that most people who see it as a great racing game rather than a great driving game would see GT's value really diminish as a racing game if you put a better emphasis on driving than racing. You could go either way, but I think Enthusia was more about driving than racing as opposed to the GT series. I don't mean any disrespect to Enthusia. I considered it to be an absolutely surprising game. But it's just that it seems more about trying to wrestle around the driving model for cars rather than competitive racing. And look at it this way. There are much fewer race cars in Enthusia compared to GT. The ratio of competition cars to street cars is probably 2 to 7. You can't honestly tell me that having a casual drive in Enthusia isn't very interesting considering the majority of tracks in Enthusia are mostly public roads and city streets (including my beloved Pacific Gateway (San Francisco)).

Gran Turismo's case (in terms of those who see it more about driving than racing) is more emphasis on racing than driving. Good driving ability helps, but you're paid to win races and championships. I was thinking that the Photo Mode locations would be good little driving sections. However, that's not the case. You have to position your car in a certain area to have a picture taken. We all seen the pictures of the BMW McLaren F1 GTR on this one-lane street in a Japanese locale. Or the Mini in a different Japanese locale as the sun sets. Or maybe even the beautiful Alpine A110 going along the docks overlooking New York City. PD could probably pull off some easy driving locales. Question is, WILL they? I usually take offense in reading comments about this game not being real serious on the racing front. It makes me think GT is a racing game with an identity crisis. Would PD really lower their standards of being a great racing game by focusing even more on driving than racing? Again, PD could pull these little driving areas. But WILL they? They probably won't because they are confident this game was made with racing in mind. Even to the disbelief of critics, this was designed for people who love finding a car and hitting the track. NOT for those just wanting a casual drive (though you can do that). That's how GT's made its money- celebrating car culture and racing whether you like the choice of cars or not. And if it weren't for these freedoms, GT wouldn't be GT now, would it?
 
Well then, JohnBM01, I must say, you made some pretty good points.👍 Being human & all, I can't agree with everything you said. I know TDU is the game to play if you want to go for a drive or drive from race to race, but you have to consider the fact that how cars handle in TDU is not to the "simulation like" feel that you get from GT...so I can completely understand why people would like real city locations, or roads out in the country to just drive on. I think that it would be great if PD gave you the option to drive to different locations within a fantasy city to: upgrade your car, paint it, or have different test tracks to drive back & fourth to. Let me put it this way, in GT4 you had this map where you clicked on: different locations to race, test your car, or go to GT Auto, & different dealerships. As far as the dealerships, test tracks, & oil change/car washing facilities go, i'd like there to be a city that has all of those places in it...but you would have the option to either click on each one or drive to each of them, but as far as different races go, i'd like that system to stay the same.
 
It's a good idea. I would enjoy driving around some simulated city with moderate traffic.

I've gone into time trial and just drove as I would if I were cruising around town or on the highway. It's relaxing and almost simulates driving when using the cockpit view with G25 wheel and clutch/shifter. As I'm considering new cars for real life test drives someday, I'm test driving them in GT5 Prologue in this manner to find out the feel and see on the dash where the engine revs at when cruising at the common speed limits and how the car behaves under street driving use.
 
I have always wanted this in a GT game but it reminds me too much of some NFS games. still a good idea. i would love to drive around miami in the afternoon, then get home and drive the tail of the dragon on GT5.
 
Within this context, what i'd really like is to drive classic or very popular locations in the world that are not race tracks... I couldn't care less about "traffic"... but driving those locations in my dream car with some friends online... that'd be the best of the best...

here's a few ideas:

- Col De Turini
- San Bernadino Pass
- Stelvio Pass

Taken directly from TopGear's Road Heaven...

http://www.redlineblog.com/top-gears-worlds-best-driving-road-in-detail/
 
Welcome to last month or a few months ago, aN4rK1. (Why the hell do people use letters with numbers to mean a specific word? You know, "H4rdc0r3" instead of "hardcore." What the hell?) I normally don't slam newcomers. But this has long been old news in regards to the Top Gear track.

I may offer a little editorial on the notion of a mode where you just go driving and not race. That will be in the future. For now, keep this thread rolling with discussion.
 
Concern about resource load or design complexity stemming from a free-roaming system of roads can be resolved by specifically choosing uninterrupted sections of road rather than a single contiguous path, or could be dealt with by slightly modifying the road at points where there is an intersection in real life. Furthermore, there is no requirement that the road even exist in real life, opening the developers up to a vast realm of fantastic possibilities limited by their imagination only.

In fact, GT already does do this, the Eiger is a great example. In fact, it is a mountain road, and has great potential to be just what we need. The problem with the Eiger Nordland is that it features spectators and race trimmings, it is a small, closed loop, and the focus is not on the simple pleasures of beautiful views and the joy of methodically dissecting a complex and unfamiliar mountain road with a scalpel of a car. While it is a technically demanding and challenging course, it is an impersonal, generic, competition oriented implementation of the concept of a mountain road.

If the GT team is ever to successfully introduce the kind of roads we are discussing, they must also recognize the very fundamental difference between such an experience and that of a competitive race. While a poorly arranged series of curves can still be boring, attention must also be paid to novelty - while most tracks are quite uniform in their format, the joy of a driving road is in it's changing form as you pass through it. I would expect patches of loose sand and gravel, more strongly terrain biased turn banking, dramatic elevation changes, and far more attention paid to the surrounding scenery and organic environment. The necessity to push one's self nearly to 100% of their driving ability in competition makes it a lot easier to ignore the background scenery and fine detail of a road. Without this pressure, people's eyes will be far more likely to pay attention to detail and appreciate the effort the developers have put into the entirety of the world.

Quite frankly, while I'd kill for this to happen, I don't think the Team is ready to deal with that whole new side of the game when there's so much still to improve in the existing game.

Eventually we will see a move in this direction, the appeal is there and the concept fits neatly into the original philosophy of the game, however I wouldn't expect it any time in the near future. And I say that with the fervent hope that I am 150% wrong because I would like nothing more than to see it happen.
 
Welcome to last month or a few months ago, aN4rK1. (Why the hell do people use letters with numbers to mean a specific word? You know, "H4rdc0r3" instead of "hardcore." What the hell?) I normally don't slam newcomers. But this has long been old news in regards to the Top Gear track.

I may offer a little editorial on the notion of a mode where you just go driving and not race. That will be in the future. For now, keep this thread rolling with discussion.

Oic, Sorry :( didnt realise.
And for the numbers thing, i dunno i just think it looks cool, Its supposed to be some "leet" talk or whatever.
 
Novel idea! I would love to see it implemented in some form somewhere along the line in the GT Series.
 
Im sorry, but GT is about circuit racing and competitive driving. If its a closed course (no traffic) and has only one route, then fine. Id love to drive through mountain passes and through valleys, but not more than that. Driving around in a city just seems boring and uneventful without much of a point. I want GT to remain the pure driving game it is. "Cruising" and dangerous driving are in other games, not what GT is all about.
 
Well people still cruise around in the current GT games anyways, just like I do. I just like taking a random car out for a spin alone on a track just for fun.
 
Well people still cruise around in the current GT games anyways, just like I do. I just like taking a random car out for a spin alone on a track just for fun.

Yea for sure. I think this would be EVEN better if you were able to just cruise online with friend, similar to Test Drive Unlimited.
 
Im sorry, but GT is about circuit racing and competitive driving. If its a closed course (no traffic) and has only one route, then fine. Id love to drive through mountain passes and through valleys, but not more than that. Driving around in a city just seems boring and uneventful without much of a point. I want GT to remain the pure driving game it is. "Cruising" and dangerous driving are in other games, not what GT is all about.

Driving in a city would be kinda boring, but I think a stretch of highway or mountain roads, etc. like you said would be great. It is a driving simulator, so to be fair it ought to encompass more than just track/circuit /drag racing. Integrating a cruise mode will never ever happen but I think it would add a lot to the game, personally. At least give us a cruise with some awesome scenery to look at or something. Let us control the time and weather, join up with some friends, and off we go through the sierra nevada mountains.

However I think if they allow us to control the time of day, the nurburgring would make for an absolutely brilliant drive at sunset. Just for a cruise.
 
Im sorry, but GT is about circuit racing and competitive driving. If its a closed course (no traffic) and has only one route, then fine. Id love to drive through mountain passes and through valleys, but not more than that. Driving around in a city just seems boring and uneventful without much of a point. I want GT to remain the pure driving game it is. "Cruising" and dangerous driving are in other games, not what GT is all about.

Sorry, did I say I wanted an open city? Did I say that I wanted to crash into everything in sight? No, I'd just like to be able to drive my car on a long stretch of road with moderate (perhaps real online) traffic. And GT is very much about driving, not just racing. Notice it's "The Real Driving Simulator" and "The Drive of Your Life", not "The Real Racing Simulator" or "The Race of Your Life".

Plus, I'm pretty sure Kazunori appreciates driving just as much as he does racing, if not more, and understands that GT fans get a thrill from driving their cars, not just racing with them.
 
Sorry, did I say I wanted an open city? Did I say that I wanted to crash into everything in sight? No, I'd just like to be able to drive my car on a long stretch of road with moderate (perhaps real online) traffic. And GT is very much about driving, not just racing. Notice it's "The Real Driving Simulator" and "The Drive of Your Life", not "The Real Racing Simulator" or "The Race of Your Life".

Plus, I'm pretty sure Kazunori appreciates driving just as much as he does racing, if not more, and understands that GT fans get a thrill from driving their cars, not just racing with them.


I agree completely, Overall I prefer driving cars over racing them, though I still love to race them too. A stretch of 'driving' road would be wonderful, even if it had no traffic at all.
 
Do you mean skid paDs?

No, he meant skid paN.

In the UK and Australia (the only places where I have personal experience driving on them), they're known as skid pans and I suspect that it's only you US Americans who call them skid paDs. :P

In any case, yes it'd be nice to have some cruisy roads and I'd really like to see some (or at least one or two) tarmac hill climb courses for time trials. Pike's Peak is all well and good but it's just not my cup of tea.

In their absence (and they WILL be absent) it's the 'Ring for me. In GT4 I used to limit my playlist to classical music pieces and go for a leisurely drive...now I'm looking forward to doing so in 1080p! :)
 
Sorry, did I say I wanted an open city? Did I say that I wanted to crash into everything in sight? No, I'd just like to be able to drive my car on a long stretch of road with moderate (perhaps real online) traffic. And GT is very much about driving, not just racing. Notice it's "The Real Driving Simulator" and "The Drive of Your Life", not "The Real Racing Simulator" or "The Race of Your Life".

Plus, I'm pretty sure Kazunori appreciates driving just as much as he does racing, if not more, and understands that GT fans get a thrill from driving their cars, not just racing with them.
Dont misquote me yourself. I did mention driving as well. Id love to drive alone on a mountain road or through a deep forest. Something like cruising on an expressway or through town is not something that appeals to me. I mean, give me a road like the one that runs through Drawski Park Krajobrazowy in north-western poland(over a hundred corners in 20km), yes please, but for fast driving, not something to cruise on.
 
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