Driver Black List & Vent Thread

[Ren]

Hmm, too bad this guy seems to have turned his change of mindset around again.... Saying this, because I've raced him a lot in the last few month and I can say yes, his name was his mission when I encountered him first.

But then came a first phase of change: he became a very fair and even over-defensive driver, even making room for me if I showed up in his mirror and avoiding contact by all means. I saw him choose grass and gravel at his own cost to avoid definetely contact.

In phase two I had many even good races with him, he had picked up pace and was still being clean. At this time we even discussed him in the chat, and a few people besides me in the chat agreed that he obviously changed his mindset in the right direction.

We even had some communication per playstation messaging, him apologizing for contacts or congratulating or whatever, very gentlemen like. There I thought he had realized that clean racing is more satisfying than auto scooter. So I, as a GTP-Member, would have even considered supporting him to loose his bad image by backing up that he has become a racer as expected in the community, in case he should develop his joy in fair racing and maybe even decide to join us....

Reading the latest report(s) on him makes me wonder.....

For me this is disapointing, thought this guy has grown up and deserves a second chance if he keeps it up. You get into trouble quickly in this Forum, remember myself not making friends in my first online races, mainly inexperience, but huge lag too (no, this is NOT an excuse, whoever has visited the african continent and tried the World-Wide-Waiting knows what I'm talking about)

I was forgiven (at least I hope so) by most, just wanted to give disaster the same chance if things would have continued as they where.

PS: don't get me wrong, not trying to defend him here, just giving my thoughts....
And sorry for the lengthy text, I just type fast

Keep well,
Heiko

 

[Enigma]

I have just raced with captain disaster and can confirm that he is racing cleanly now 👍

A while back he was a terrible punter but last few races I've had with him he has been in the right car for the event and racing clean.

He is normally at 650 fuji xx15 xx45 in an NSX at the moment if you want to see for yourself

 

[Synwraith]

Driver:
boldoplay

Location:
IT

Race:
Suzuka 700PP

Brief description of incident:
Punting everyone and everything, punted me at hairpin, punted me at 130R, drove me off the road at Spoon exit. He went off the track, I even stopped to let him past, he still needed to drive me off the road. Exact same thing happened in esses, I went wide to let him through (due to event race he was ruining) and he pushed me off. Also had GTP_EDK off at degner 1. Disgusting driving, a true menace in his Lotus 111R/Tuned

Video Evidence:
None

Futher comments or just vent:
The only comments I could post here would get me an infraction.

 

[Nicksfix]

2 things I ran into last night at 800pp Daytona

1.) xGLOBAL-MENACEx is the driver on this one.

Drives a GTLM.Very dirty racer (lives up to the menace part of his name),he will plow you at any given moment,has no reguard for anything or anybody.I personally was taken out by him,and I seen him take out a couple of others as well.I sent a pm to him asking in a kind manner "Why do you race like this ? Why do you have to go out and make it rough for everybody,were just here to have some fun" His reply was simple "I am the GLOBAL-MENACE and I don't care about anything,except for winning.If your in my path,I will destroy you". Needless to say,the races that I was involved with him - he never won !!!!!

2.) GTBR tagged drivers : whats up with these guys ?

They were in a mix of cars,Tuned Vette's,GTLM's,Tuned S2000's.This is kind of odd,they were being dirty drivers (punting,brake checking,deliberatly spinning out in front of you,blocking by use of 2-3 cars wide technique,as to protect their racer who toward the front of the pack) toward the tagged racers only,they would leave the non-tagged ones alone.Not quite sure if they have this "we are better than any other tagged racer thing going on",but these guys have a hard on against any tagged racer,or so it appears.They will not let a tagged racer by them,they do whatever it takes to keep you behind them.Very aggrevating.

 

[Hyper-Dan]

Drivers: vozny (Blue Clio) antibus99 (Yellow Mk1 Elise)

Location:
DE

Race:
Suzuka 550PP

Brief description of incident:
Punting everyone and everything, punted me, punted Zabeu. Disgusting driving.

Video Evidence:
None

 

[DGiant2000]

Drivers: amiloa1630

Location:
FR

Race:
Daytona speedway 800pp

Brief description of incident:
This 🤬 turns up at daytona in a citroen C4 weighing in at 456pp. Obviously starting at the front, he then sets about demolishing the field as they try to overtake before parking up on the grass and disconnecting

Video Evidence:
None

 

[Synwraith]

Driver:
boglofthenorth

Location:
GB

Race:
Suzuka 550PP

Brief description of incident:
He is "driving" a green Elise 111R at Suzuka 550PP. He punts everywhere, blocks everywhere and when you pass him finally and leave him for dust which you inevitably will, he goes around the track backwards, then stops and drives alongside you to put you off if you are the leader. Obviously he can't keep up with the leader so then he pulls the same crap on the next car. Had grief from this driver 2 races on the trot.

Video Evidence:
None

 

[crazytortise]

2 things I ran into last night at 800pp Daytona

1.) xGLOBAL-MENACEx is the driver on this one.

Drives a GTLM.Very dirty racer (lives up to the menace part of his name),he will plow you at any given moment,has no reguard for anything or anybody.I personally was taken out by him,and I seen him take out a couple of others as well.I sent a pm to him asking in a kind manner "Why do you race like this ? Why do you have to go out and make it rough for everybody,were just here to have some fun" His reply was simple "I am the GLOBAL-MENACE and I don't care about anything,except for winning.If your in my path,I will destroy you". Needless to say,the races that I was involved with him - he never won !!!!!

I had a runin with this guy to. unbelieveable !!!!

 

[Paulie]

I won't put in an offical request for the list since I haven't encountered him personally online since, but here's a warning for everyone:
There is an Australian driver, who on GTP was known as HRT-Scibba-GTR (possible his PSN name is just Scibba). Basically he refused to abide by our well set AUP and got himself out of here for good. Now, I'm receiving many many reports this guy is out there with seemingly some pathetic e-grudge against GTP'ers. So if you see him, steer well clear! Private rooms will come soon, when that time comes, he'll be left with nothing but his own kind.

 

[Mad94d]

I won't put in an offical request for the list since I haven't encountered him personally online since, but here's a warning for everyone:
There is an Australian driver, who on GTP was known as HRT-Scibba-GTR (possible his PSN name is just Scibba). Basically he refused to abide by our well set AUP and got himself out of here for good. Now, I'm receiving many many reports this guy is out there with seemingly some pathetic e-grudge against GTP'ers. So if you see him, steer well clear! Private rooms will come soon, when that time comes, he'll be left with nothing but his own kind.

Yeah, I had a race with him when he was suppsoedly "My friend" and he punted me off 4 times in one race! I was much faster but I don't think he could accept it so he'd just run into the back of me at the first chance he got. And yes his PSN is "scibba [AU]" If you do see him make sure you steer clear. Haven't seen him racing for a while though, used to run into him racing a lot...

 

[Paulie]

I heard someone mention Scibba being on track and punting just the other night.

 

[DGiant2000]

would that be this guy? https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/member.php?u=120830

looks like he's still a member!

 

[Mad94d]

would that be this guy? https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/member.php?u=120830

looks like he's still a member!

Yes he is, but he doesn't come here anymore I don't think. Didn't use any proper grammar/spelling/punctuation at all. And not only that, he didn't seem to obey when he was aksed to. So I think he left under his own steam. But I may be wrong...

 

[supersonic-88]

Had the pleasure of driving against him last night in MNR. 2 lovely moves which included:

- Turning hard right as I went past him down the front straight at Fuji, obviously trying to send me into a wall or at the least, spin me.
- Using me as his brakes at T2, sending me off and into the wall.

Smacked into me other times as well and tried to dive bomb at certain corners but I moved my car out of the way.

 

[Synwraith]

I ran into Scibba[AU] on Tuesday at Fuji 700PP. It was just he and I in the race and I was in the 350Z. The GTR scooted off as I was practising a 30s wait/start. He actually pulled off and waited for me...only to punt me off the track when I got alongside him before coca-cola.

What kind of person actually waits in order to have a race with the one other car on track only to shove him off at the first opportunity, immediately ruining the so-called "race" he waited for?!

I was at a complete loss for words. This numpty has no redeeming feature.

All the best
Maz

 

[Paulie]

Yes he is, but he doesn't come here anymore I don't think. Didn't use any proper grammar/spelling/punctuation at all. And not only that, he didn't seem to obey when he was aksed to. So I think he left under his own steam. But I may be wrong...

Yeah, he had a big run in with Smallhorses and left of his own accord when he couldn't comprehend logic.

 

[MeAgainstYou]

Driver:
FAK_EV1L

Location:
IT

Race:
Time Trial TVR Speed Six HSR reverse and more....

Brief description of incident:
Flat shifting

Video Evidence:
examples: tvr 6 hsr rev / 512bb suzuka

Further comments or just vent:
This guy was on my ps3 friends list until today.. why he's not there any more!?

Some time ago i saw a replay of him doing flat shifting in the 512bb at suzuka... we had a conversation.. and in the end he said that he wouldn't use it any more on TT's. at the time i thought he got the point of using it.. everyone loses in this situation the game itself for the credibility.. anyway...

later on... he PM'd me asking me to not use clutch on his records.. i wonder why not... but i agreed since he kept away from cheating until there...

today i found him running around HSR rev. with TVR using flat shift again against a record that i made without clutch on him. i PM'd him asking why he asked me to not use clutch on him which i agreed and why he made that cheat!?!?! he said that davissi used clutch against him 2 times and he was in need yo use the cheat to pass him again.. and that i should STFU!!! my reaction was like i thought he must have some psychological disease for what he just said and for the conduct of the whole story... my response was clean within the possible and i deleted him from my list!

just to let you guys know about what kind of guy he is... and if you think he's being fast in a race... think twice (he's using flat shift which give him more than a second per lap) i told him before that if i found him on a race considering that he was a cheater i would quit the race to let him racing alone! and that's what i'll do if i ever found him in a race!

thats why he is on my black list from now on... im up for those who respect each others racing or in the backstage.. and he said that he dont care about respecting at all... and as he's cheating i think he lost all the respect too.. besides any cheater is bad for any respectable community!!!

 

[crazytortise]

I see your point in what you saying MAY and i respect it and i agree cheating is not the way. But how can a guy, from what i have seen with alot of credibility around the forums, suddenly go to a cheater?

 

[Jack]

FAK_EV1L is not being added to the list because he using 'flat-shifting'. Although it may be un-sporting, if he is willing to pay the extra money for equipment that gives him .050 then thats fine.

He is not using this in GTP Events as he is not a member, but only in basic only time trails.

FAK is a prime example of a good clean racer online, but his time trails can be seen against the competition and un-sporting at times but it is legal in the GT5 : P world.

As he is not a GTP member we can't contact him to remind him of the OLR he signed up too, but by all means contact him to show it. This may bring out a better side of him in the time trail world.

 

[Synwraith]

My personal opinion of FAK EV1L is this: I've raced and spoken to FAK for a long time now and he regularly offers me tuning tips and replays of his best laps, none of which include flat-shifting, in order to help me improve. And when we race together he always waits for me and doesn't use even the clutch, let alone the modded clutch to race me. He is one of the cleanest most sporting drivers I have ever come across and next to Timo and Ramon, the most gifted player of GT5 in my eyes.

Matt (MJH), Jukka (JvM), Warren (Theewar), Mario (Hun) and Maciek (mr_geez) are some of the most respected and honourable drivers in the OLR community, and we all raced FAK many many times late into the night without ever encountering any issue of bad track manners, lack of sportsmanship or overwhelming desire of his to win instead of race and have fun. All of T&L hold FAK in the highest regard.

today i found him running around HSR rev. with TVR using flat shift again against a record that i made without clutch on him. i PM'd him asking why he asked me to not use clutch on him which i agreed and why he made that cheat!?!?! he said that davissi used clutch against him 2 times and he was in need yo use the cheat to pass him again.. and that i should STFU!!! my reaction was like i thought he must have some psychological disease for what he just said and for the conduct of the whole story... my response was clean within the possible and i deleted him from my list!

This is very unfortunate, and I regret that he spoke to you this way, I'll certainly bring it up with him when I chat to him next, most probably today/tonight. I don't believe anyone should address other well-known OLR members in this fashion and despite my very very high opinion of Alessandro, I'm disappointed to hear of this.

Bruno I also hold you in very high regard too, a tremendously gifted and talented player of GT5, and consider you a friend also. I do not agree with some of your behaviour on the forums (see WRS forum for needless involvement in an issue that does not concern you) and some of your reactions to Event 03 happenings, but I still respect you and give you the benefit of the doubt.

I am aware that FAK has the mod for flatshifting and I know he checked it out a few times. But I can only repeat again, in the races where he has joined us on GTP schedule, no exceptions, he has always raced clean and fair and in a sporting manner.

I really do hope this issue can be resolved and I am happy to do anything to help bring it to an amicable resoultion. Let's all please not get carried away and over-zealous about ruining the name of a tremendously well-respected driver.

All the best
Maz

 

[mr_geez]

Since Maz is our team spokesperson I don't think there is much more to add besides the fact I always look forward seeing FAK_EV1L on track because it means it will be a great experience for anyone who can be fast enough to stay with him..

 

[MeAgainstYou]

But I can only repeat again, in the races where he has joined us on GTP schedule, no exceptions, he has always raced clean and fair and in a sporting manner.

It's exactly on races that he said to me that he would use flat shifting 👍 i respected him until this day... but when i see someone joining the cheating side i can not respect him.

I do not agree with some of your behaviour on the forums (see WRS forum for needless involvement in an issue that does not concern you) and some of your reactions to Event 03 happenings, but I still respect you and give you the benefit of the doubt.

putting it on your terms... thats not a good behaviour by yourself too... because you have nothing to do with it... wrs what!? on event 3 was pretty clear what happened and i faced it.. but i know there're some people that love see me losing and they made it a big thing.. not me ... and what's the point to compare my behavior in the forum with cheating!? the deal here is not my behavior neither who like him/me or not.. who you like to race with or not.. is that he is cheating and there're evidences of that

I see your point in what you saying MAY and i respect it and i agree cheating is not the way. But how can a guy, from what i have seen with alot of credibility around the forums, suddenly go to a cheater?

watch the replays and thats a pretty good evidence of cheating.


@Jack: he's not gaining 0.050, its a second! and even if it was 0.001 thats not the matter of it.. it's his behaviour on using it! and there's no need to buy an equipment to do it... i can do it without any other device but i dont use it!

people change.. he changed to bad! thats all

 

[Synwraith]

putting it on your terms... thats not a good behaviour by yourself too... because you have nothing to do with it...

Exactly, that's why I didn't get involved over there.

on event 3 was pretty clear what happened and i faced it.. but i know there're some people that love see me losing and they made it a big thing.. not me ...

People like to see a champion be beaten once in a while, Schumacher, Federer etc, it's not personal.

and what's the point to compare my behavior in the forum with cheating!?

The point is, you cannot judge a person's entire personality and behaviour through a single circumstance. I don't judge you as a bad person because of 2 or 3 posts I disagree with, and I don't brand Alessandro a cheater in all arenas because of a few time trials.

Don't get me wrong, I don't like the clutch trick. I told him I didn't like that he used it, I told him I wish it was banned. The rest is up to him. I will repeat though, he is a clean, fair and super-fast racer that a huge number of guys enjoy racing with.


All the best
Maz

 

[MeAgainstYou]

Exactly, that's why I didn't get involved over there.

i dont get it.. you are defending him..

... a tremendously well-respected driver.

really!? thats funny.. because i never saw a person giving respect to a cheater 👎

let me see if i get it... If i steal 2 or 3 times.. i assume that you wont judge me as a thief then... huummmm.. people make mistakes i agree but people should learn with those mistakes to avoid them.. and he got his chance! i also know that sometimes i exceed myself but please... this is not a naive mistake, he knows very well what's the consequences..

Maz the problem is on him... It's his choice! i told him, as a friend, more than once because i didnt want him to get lost on that cheat (he didnt need that at all).. and he thought about it for a while leaving it.. but now he's assuming his position on what he just said, and he said he will cheat!

so i'm just posting it here because i want to people know what's he's doing! people should know they have been cheated... even considering that he wont use it anymore on TTs... at this moment i wont trust him anymore because we cant be sure that he dont use it in a race (there's no replay available)

if he gives you setups... etc and if you (and your team as you said) like him i dont care but you need to see the facts... and if you still supporting him.. it's also your choice my friend 👍

and you dont get me wrong too because im not discussing anything else here than people that we shouldnt respect... and i respect you!

 

[Anghammarad]

Allow me to demonstrate my ignorance. What do you mean by flat shifting? To me flat shifting is when you keep the accelerator planted during gear changes as opposed to lifting off slightly? If there is an unwritten rule against doing this it must be very obscure because I have never heard of it. I have flatshifted through my entire GT5P career.

 

[L_Hamilton]

Allow me to demonstrate my ignorance. What do you mean by flat shifting? To me flat shifting is when you keep the accelerator planted during gear changes as opposed to lifting off slightly? If there is an unwritten rule against doing this it must be very obscure because I have never heard of it. I have flatshifted through my entire GT5P career.

I have the same question. I have the DFP so I wouldn't know the flatshifting thingy.

Does it gain a lot of time, or does, like Jack said, gain like .050 a lap? >_>

 

[Timppaq]

It's a device that allows you to get the "flatshifting" done with one button, so depending of the car you gain ~0.3 - 1.3 secs per lap. Also you don't need to do any extra work with it. Just press the paddle. Check the PRO TT event (online) with the R8 & Suzy.. Last time I checked, our friend Amir (I suppose) holds the P1 with the tag "clutch_cheat"

I hope he makes PD to notice this 👍

 

[Anghammarad]

I'm sorry, I still don't get it. I have a G25 wheel and never use the clutch or the shifter, I just change gear with the flappy paddles without ever lifting off when accelerating. Is this considered cheating?

 

[Timppaq]

no, of course not. The device gives you the advantage of flatshifting with using the paddles. (or whatever buttons you wish to use, I assume)

Flatshifting is basically shifting using the clutch & keeping the throttle planted to the floor (without getting the "red" on the throttle bar). PD has eliminated this from normal G25 users, but the device bybasses this and gives an unfair advantage.

This can be done even without the device, but it requires such button combos that to be used effectively, you'll need the "cheat mod". **(no, not tellin' )

 

[Anghammarad]

Ah, now I'm with you. Thanks