Driving Style Professional GT5P

[Darkdog786]

Got a Driving Force GT steering wheel, Wheelstand pro stand(On it's way). Got my steering wheel hooked up with the coffee table.I Wanted to know how the Gurus of GT5P drives their car in professional mode. Any tips, tricks from which i can seek some help will be very great. Specially for RWD cars with TCS and ABS Off.

Thanks

 

[IsmokeGT]

Do the same Time Trial until you think you will never play again. Then, the next day do the same TT until you feel the same feeling as the day before. After you get into the top 10 in rankings move to aother car. Although in TT ABS is on 1, your overall speed will greatly benefit.

Eventually you will be good.

 

[Darkdog786]

hahah LOL. Nice one.

 

[Darkdog786]

I got some feedback from other members like jay and nick and got some input on howtodrive inprofessional mode. Throttle control is a key while racing in professional physics. Thanks for your input though

 

[Jay]

As IsmokeGT implied practice, you're right about throttle control it really is the key. You use the steering to guide the car where you want it to go but the throttle and brake really are used to trim cars slip angle, balance and trajectory. Obviously if differs between cars and drivetrain types.
One thing I notice a lot of people doing is using too much wheel input, on a controller you just move the stick in one direction and hold until corner exit (or twitch it back to countersteer), with the wheel you have full control of the steering, many people turn and as the car understeers the just keep turning further but it doesn't help at all, if the car is understeering use the throttle to get back on trajectory not the wheel. Especially on corner exit where the wheel needs to be straightened or mid corner where you might have to correct oversteer suddenly but the wheel is turned so far you're to slow to countersteer, if you have to take both hands off the 9 o'clock and 3 o'clock (or where ever you hold the wheel) then you're steering too much (except hairpins and tight corners), unless you're drifting or in the need to correct big overtsteers. Keeping atleast one hand in this position makes it easy to quickly counter slides and you have good referrence what the wheel position is.


Watch some more leaderboard replays (pro physics) of various cars on tracks like Eiger, Suzuka, Daytona Road and watch the throttle and brake bars during cornering. As said just practice practice practice and the lap times will fall and your confidence and enjoyment with rise

 

[niky]

Downloading one of the top ten laptimes for the car you're practicing with is an invaluable tool for developing driving skill.

Personally, I can't get closer than 1 second to many of the top times on the current leaderboards... but seeing as I'm sixaxxis, being within the top 50 to top 100-200 is good enough for me...

Jay brings up a great point... too much steering is just as bad as too little. One thing they have us practice in trackday lessons is keeping your hand on the steering wheel. Of course, this won't help you for the sharpest of corners (like in Eiger), but on the bigger, faster tracks, having this constraint keeps you from using too much steering lock. If you're starting to understeer, more steering isn't the answer. More braking or more/less throttle (depending on the car) is what's needed.

 

[ralph89]

I'm probably not the best GT5 driver (obviously), I don't use GT5 to beat everyone on their time or smoke them lap by lap in Suzuka, but to enjoy every bits of cars in the game and test them one by one on which one is slow, which one is fast or which one is fun to drive. But if there's a challenge or race here in GTplanet, my technique is fast reaction to catch oversteer (because I use tail happy car like the NSX-R, RX7 etc), throttle control, aggressive on corners, and fast eyes (I actually use the rear view mirror in in-car view or side mirror to avoid other player trying to overtake, but it just me mostly everyone use bumper or roof cam).

 

[FLASH48]

Just drive the car, like you are in a real race. I don't practices and i'm not the fastest or the slowest! I just like to race, whether i win or lose doesn't mater!! Having fun is what maters!!👍

 

[IsmokeGT]

Well, since practice isnt good enough- I will say getting the car straight ASAP is vital.

Some turns this isnt possible (spoon especially) BUT every hairpin or chicane can be approached in this manner. The one example I think of off hand is MAY at Daytona Road with the tuned Skyline. Watch turn 2... he gets it straight and guns it. Did I say practice?

 

[Darkdog786]

After getting some input fromyou guys i took a Renault Clip V6 tuned on Edge track and was pretty impressed that after running 10 laps i was able to acheive 640 LB (Which i am sure sucks alot right now). Hopefully once i get more control on the throttle while coming in the corner and exiting the corner without doing 360 that is when i will be fully happy :--).

Running same tracks like 25 or 50 laps is what i intend to do tonite. I just wish the stand was here today for me so i could have enjoyed every bit of racing in GT5P. Unfortunately poland people just shipped it today and i am sure it will take a week to get it :--(

 

[Darkdog786]

Controlling a Lotus Elise 06 on Fuji is very very very tough. Yes Smoke you are correct practice is what makes a person perfect. You don't achieve a LB time in like one day. It took me one month of full dedication in Forza 2 to be a competetive driver. At that point i was having no life just sitting at home playing 12 hrs a day but now working full time so can only play 6 hrs on weekdays and weekends unlimited :--).

 

[Masi_23]

PRACTICE!!!

If you've logged 1000 laps in each track then you're there

 

[THAYWAIAM]

hello every one new to the site and first post....thats all i do know is practice i race daytona 800 alot... but latley iv been learning how to tune my cars and practicing each track 5 to 6 hours a day it will pay off in the end, i just hate i started so late with online racing, missed a lot of good racin but looking foward for future bumper 2 bumper action...peace

 

[MJH]

Pick the hardest car on the hardest track and practice with that till you get it right.

Slow in, fast out FTW.

Matt.

 

[IsmokeGT]

hardest car on the hardest track

That would be the GT LM at Daytona Road, IMO.

 

[MJH]

Daytona road isn't a real track, it just pretends to be. lol.

Suzuka or Eiger.

Matt.

 

[IsmokeGT]

LOL, Eiger is real?

 

[MJH]

LOL, Eiger is real?

Eiger is a made up track, daytona road exists in real life, but yet, Eiger is much more of a real track than dr. Dayton road is just a roundish thing with a few corners bolted on as an after thought.

Matt.

 

[Jay]

Eiger is a real location using some real roads but not it isn't a real track.

 

[niky]

Daytona Road is difficult at first, but it gets easy. The only challenge on Daytona Road is finding the proper braking points for each car and staying off the gas in the curves. It's a good high speed track, but there's no variety, and once you've memorized your entry and exit speeds... no challenge.

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Eiger is a lovely place to practice throttle control and car control... But it's mostly low speed stuff with only one really difficult high speed corner. But getting a lap right on Eiger is oh-so-satisfying.

Eiger Reverse is diff-i-cult. This is a track that'll teach you a lot about uphill driving... how slopes affect the balance of oversteer and understeer... a very good way to hone your driving.

Suzuka, IMHO, is the perfect place to practice. It's a mix of slow, medium and high speed corners... Setting up for Suzuka is a great challenge, and forces you to think very hard about set-up balancing...

 

[Darkdog786]

hello every one new to the site and first post....thats all i do know is practice i race daytona 800 alot... but latley iv been learning how to tune my cars and practicing each track 5 to 6 hours a day it will pay off in the end, i just hate i started so late with online racing, missed a lot of good racin but looking foward for future bumper 2 bumper action...peace

Wellcome. Same thing goes for me and now i am trying to get some input from the Gurus to be competetive online and time trial.

I just raced 80 laps of High Speed ring with an Amuse S2000 professional Physics and was not able to achieve a good time. Practice is still going but for me with TCS off on these RWD cars is very very very tough. Sometime i accelerate through the corners very very slow and sometime i give alot of throttle and Dang my car does a 360 :--).

Anyhow i am returning my Driving Force Gt steering wheel to best buy tomorrow and buying Logitech G25 steering wheel with a clutch and a gear box. I've heard alot of good reviews about G25. I saw a youtube video for G25 and was just in love with it. Where i spent 149 on DFGT then why not add 60 more dollar and buy a whole package which comes with clutch and gear box also ?

 

[Darkdog786]

Daytona Road is difficult at first, but it gets easy. The only challenge on Daytona Road is finding the proper braking points for each car and staying off the gas in the curves. It's a good high speed track, but there's no variety, and once you've memorized your entry and exit speeds... no challenge.

-

Eiger is a lovely place to practice throttle control and car control... But it's mostly low speed stuff with only one really difficult high speed corner. But getting a lap right on Eiger is oh-so-satisfying.

Eiger Reverse is diff-i-cult. This is a track that'll teach you a lot about uphill driving... how slopes affect the balance of oversteer and understeer... a very good way to hone your driving.

Suzuka, IMHO, is the perfect place to practice. It's a mix of slow, medium and high speed corners... Setting up for Suzuka is a great challenge, and forces you to think very hard about set-up balancing...

I love Suzuka. One of my all time favorite tracks. I have been practicing on Fuji and High speed ring lately alot. Daytona is fun track also but the first corner can get tricky sometime if you do not break at the right time. Eiger is the track which have stunning graphics. Sometime i just race to see all those mountains

 

[IsmokeGT]

Daytona Road is difficult at first, but it gets easy. The only challenge on Daytona Road is finding the proper braking points for each car and staying off the gas in the curves. It's a good high speed track, but there's no variety, and once you've memorized your entry and exit speeds... no challenge.

So you hold First in Every car there in the TT rankings?

Daytona road is the hardest and most fulfilling track IMO because if you want to get a fast lap you have to be perfect in every turn. Even at Suzuka you can make up time in the next turn if you mess up the previous turn. For example- if you mess turn 2 up, then most likely you will be able to take turn 3 faster than on a perfect lap. Same with almost every turn on the track. You mess this turn up but now you are too wide and you can fly through the next turn.

Daytona Road is the complete opposite. You cant make up time anywhere. The Bus stop is kinda dumb because apparently when 2 tires are in the dirt they dont get dirty but that just mean you have you alter your driving a little.

Tuned Cappucino at Daytona Road- Find the braking points, find the turn in points, that will not be enough to get you on top the leader board.

 

[niky]

So you hold First in Every car there in the TT rankings?

Daytona road is the hardest and most fulfilling track IMO because if you want to get a fast lap you have to be perfect in every turn. Even at Suzuka you can make up time in the next turn if you mess up the previous turn. For example- if you mess turn 2 up, then most likely you will be able to take turn 3 faster than on a perfect lap. Same with almost every turn on the track. You mess this turn up but now you are too wide and you can fly through the next turn.

Daytona Road is the complete opposite. You cant make up time anywhere. The Bus stop is kinda dumb because apparently when 2 tires are in the dirt they dont get dirty but that just mean you have you alter your driving a little.

Tuned Cappucino at Daytona Road- Find the braking points, find the turn in points, that will not be enough to get you on top the leader board.

TT rankings? Haven't even broken into the top twenty for any car since the first two or three months after Spec III. Don't really care. My G25 is broken, so I play entirely on DS3.

Ever consider, maybe, that the reason you can make up time for a bad turn on Suzuka compared to your previous best lap is because there are so many lines through that you're always finding a new one? That's what I love about "tarmac rally" tracks like Eiger, El Capitan and even the Nurburgring. You can never truly say you've mastered them, even after hundreds of laps.

Maybe I've oversimplified by saying Daytona Road is too easy... granted... nothing is especially easy in Pro mode... but, personally, it lacks that special something... that feeling of exhiliration you get from threading a car down a narrow street (not track). That's just an opinion, though, and kudos to anyone who can blitz a fast lap through the place.

 

[N155AN]

Don't really care. My G25 is broken, so I play entirely on DS3.

how did you break it?

 

[niky]

Used it at too many car shows. Dozens of kids whanging away at the wheel three days in a row is not a good way to treat your most precious.

 

[Darkdog786]

Used it at too many car shows. Dozens of kids whanging away at the wheel three days in a row is not a good way to treat your most precious.

+ 1 :--). After hours of researching and banging my head i order a g25 yesterday. I will be getting it by Thursday. I really cannot wait to clamp my G25 with the Logitech wheel stand i bought from wheelstandpro. Stand has also not arrived and neither did the G25 :--(. Anxiously waiting.

But to be honest sometime professional physics just pisses me off alot . Sometime i think that creators of Gt5 should have added some arcade fun with professional physics and not make it just a real simulation game in professional physics. I am not a rich person so only have driven slow cars in real life like a Civic DX or a Protege. Don't know when am i going to get better with these high HP RWD Cars :--). May be one day. Practice continues.

Lastly, just bought the F1 Fearri and got to say that i am in love with the car and the sound. Pure F1 sound and Pure F1 Ferrari car. Kudos to Gt5P. Please continue to post your tips and tricks for newbies like me who just started driving in Professional physics.

Thanks

 

[Darkdog786]

Quick question do you guys hit full brakes or just half way ?. Secondly do you down shift first and then hit the brakes or brakes and then down shift when coming to a corner ?. Just curious. I have seen several people replay with different driving style.

 

[IsmokeGT]

Something I have noticed over the last week or two- A LOT of new guys in expert races. I have received several "just started online" or "new to pro physics" messages lately. Besides the messages, there will be me and a friend and then some guys like a minute behind us. So you guys arent alone, for sure.

 

[Darkdog786]

LOL i sent couple of messages to fast racers in Expert also. I mean it's very shocking how you pros can fly through some of the very tough corners and can gain a whole lot of lead while i am still trying to turn my car .