First of all I just ran Circuit de la Sarthe I and boy, was it ever boring.. 'Twas in fact very pathetic in my opinion. For one, the AI I faced were VERY MUCH slower than My Jaguar XJR9 Race Car. Knowing my prize'll be Audi R8, it disappointed me that the fact I outlapped that car about 3 laps..Also I got a yellow R8, I wanted a Red one.. Other than that it was just a pathetic pattern.. 7 laps, then pit and so on... Really, Im never doing timed endurances.. I'll probably find time in christmas break to run a few to win Minolta 88C-V and R92CP..
Endurances are really a waste of time..
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DeSwyft, please have a read through a real race report on this board, try using G.T's race report reference thread which is stickied at the top of this forum to find some good ones.
Then stop posting threads which are not race reports on here.
These statements and questions you're asking belong on the main GT4 forum.
Firstly did you A-spec or B-spec the race? Try A-speccing it all, that's less boring. Secondly if you're unsatisfied because you won by too much, use a lesser car! It's been said numerous times around here before, but if you bring a gun to a knife fight, it's not going to be much fun. Try winning El Capitan 200 miles in a completely stock road car. Have a look at hispeed's stock car race list in the the new 200 A-spec points forum, for some recommendations to do this.
Then stop posting threads which are not race reports on here.
These statements and questions you're asking belong on the main GT4 forum.
Firstly did you A-spec or B-spec the race? Try A-speccing it all, that's less boring. Secondly if you're unsatisfied because you won by too much, use a lesser car! It's been said numerous times around here before, but if you bring a gun to a knife fight, it's not going to be much fun. Try winning El Capitan 200 miles in a completely stock road car. Have a look at hispeed's stock car race list in the the new 200 A-spec points forum, for some recommendations to do this.
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Endurances really are the best thing ever to happen to the GT series. Overkilling by using a car which is far superior to your competitors probably is quite boring but when you battle for an entire race using a lesser car its a lot of fun. I would love to A-Spec one or more of the 24 hour races but unfortunately time and the fact that i have a brother who wants to use the PS2 all the time prevent me from doing it.
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Look dude, if you're looking for a serious endurance race game, don't buy GT, that rule #1. And if it is that boring, use a kind of GT car like a fully modded Aston if you think you're that fast
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If GT has one flaw, it is that it is only as good a racing game as you make it - that takes a little bit of time, effort, experimentation, testing and imagination. But, there are plenty of ideas/guides available right here at GTP to help people save a bit of time and find a genuinely challenging race... As Smallhorses says, look at some proper race reports, and my tip is to check out some of the links in Smallhorses' sig (the 200 A-Spec point races link in particular)... if you can't get a decent race in an enduro (or in any other race in GT), then (to put in bluntly) you only really have yourself to blame...Look dude, if you're looking for a serious endurance race game, don't buy GT, that rule #1. And if it is that boring, use a kind of GT car like a fully modded Aston if you think you're that fast
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Endurance races are what racing is about. Find a car in the competitor's car class and have a lot of fun 
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Quoted from your "Invincible Tires" thread.
No wonder you find the enduros boring. If you run a race like the El Capitan 200 in a car like the Camaro LM, of course you're going to be doing nothing but sightseeing for 76 laps. And pretty as they are, the graphics ain't that good.
Before complaining about how stupidly easy the enduros are, spend a few minutes qualifying in several different cars. Find one that actually makes you drive carefully and cleanly to win, instead of a monster that gives you time to do donuts on every lap.
You're only going to get out of this game what you're willing to put into it.
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Was your Jaguar fully modded? That is usually the number one issue to make any race truly boring. Check out the settings for LMP/GTP/Group C cars in my sig, and try some of them out. No powerupgrades, just plain cars. And if you want a bit of a challange, use one of the lesser cars, like the 905 or R89C.
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Fine. That is your opinion. There are many who would disagree. You make your own fun in a game and find your own ways of making it so. You don't enjoy endurance races, well don't do them then!!
If you want to make endurance races MORE interesting look at the good advice in the posts above.
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I just did my first 'real' racing this last weekend, I finally got into the Extreme Hall and did the GT Championship of New York, Seoul, and Laguna Seca. I used B-spec for at least half of New York, and lost pretty badly, because I didn't know New York well enough, but I had so much fun in Seoul (A spec), and won, by a lap or two, and kicked AI a$$ on LS (A spec). About 1-1.5 hours each, and loved every minute of them.
The entire field was F1 cars, 60 A spec points per race. Another favorite series of mine was the Japanese GT series. I love racing those NSX race cars, I like the Loctite Mugen NSX, haven't spent much time tuning them though, and they are twitchy.👍
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++++REP for the best single sentence description of GT4.
I'm not big on signatures... but if I did, I'd use this. 👍
The more I got to know the AI for each race, and what they are capable of, and what kind of times I was capable of doing in each of my cars, the more fun I had as it allowed me to choose a car and setup that matches well against the AI cars in a race.
In fact, not only do you have a lot of choices in cars and setups, but for many events, like the two the OP complained about, Le Sarthe and El Capitan enudros, the AI uses several different cars. So by resetting the field of AI cars you can control what cars will or will not be in your race. So for those that don't like 'rabbit' or backmarker cars, it is possible for several events to race without them.
So as Touring Mars suggested, GT4 is only as good a racing game as you make it, and spending a little bit of time, effort, experimentation, testing and imagination will go a long way in improving your gameplay.
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I much prefer them. They take the focus away from the Artificial Idiots to an extent as you don't need to rush past them in 3 laps. So you can take your time and line them up for the pass.
As said, it's easy enough to find a competitive race. In fact, I'd say that it's easier in an endurance race as you are given more than 3 laps to get to 1st place and therefore can race with a smaller competitive advantage than you need in a short race.
As said, it's easy enough to find a competitive race. In fact, I'd say that it's easier in an endurance race as you are given more than 3 laps to get to 1st place and therefore can race with a smaller competitive advantage than you need in a short race.
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Agreed, but I think the enduros are boring as well. I've checked out the 200 A-Spec points races and only a few are possible for me to complete, they're quite hard. But then, it's only my opinion and only my race speed
@ Alfaholic: Great post, I totally agree with the fact you're not in a rush and you can easily take your time, al very true 👍 That's what I do in must of the enduros with the faster cars like the LMP's and stuff. But then, a 24 hour race will get boring no matter what.
Oh and, great username BTW 👍
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Not necessarily true. 24 hour races could be great fun. I know on the 8 and 9 hour races i was having just as much fun on the last lap as i was on the first. If you can get a couple of friends who can produce similar lap times to you and rotate the driving around its a great experience.Agreed, but I think the enduros are boring as well. I've checked out the 200 A-Spec points races and only a few are possible for me to complete, they're quite hard. But then, it's only my opinion and only my race speed
@ Alfaholic: Great post, I totally agree with the fact you're not in a rush and you can easily take your time, al very true 👍 That's what I do in must of the enduros with the faster cars like the LMP's and stuff. But then, a 24 hour race will get boring no matter what.
Oh and, great username BTW 👍
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Haven't tried a 24 hour race in A-spec yet but I did try the 9 hour Tsukuba enduro in a standard Elan and that kept me entertained for about 4 hours. In that time I had been in the lead for about 10 minutes in total and the first 4 cars were still on the same lap. Unfortunately at that point I made a silly tyre choice and threw the race, which all of a sudden got boring and I let b-spec finish it off.
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Agreed, but I think the enduros are boring as well. I've checked out the 200 A-Spec points races and only a few are possible for me to complete, they're quite hard. But then, it's only my opinion and only my race speed
@ Alfaholic: Great post, I totally agree with the fact you're not in a rush and you can easily take your time, al very true 👍 That's what I do in must of the enduros with the faster cars like the LMP's and stuff. But then, a 24 hour race will get boring no matter what.
Oh and, great username BTW 👍
Not necessarily true, no. I´ve had a 24 hr race where the first two cars were only separated by 0.47 of a second across the finishline! THAT was hairraising!
I got mixed feelings about endurance races. Together with the rallies, they were my favorite in GT3.
In GT4, I find two problems with them, not unsurmountable but still annoying:
1) It is hard to figure out which car in your garage will give you a good challenge while still being winnable. It is annoying to have to try multiple cars, starting a race, running several laps, aborting and changing car... just to try again, and again, and again until you find the one that is worth doing.
2) Many of the races are way too long... more than I'm willing to dedicate to a game - any game - in one sitting. It would be better if you could save mid-race. Leaving the PS/2 paused for a few days until I'm free to continue is not an option for me... besides wasting electricity, my power company sucks and the PS/2 gets reset when the power dips or fails (a common event).
So, the first time around I played most of the endurance races in B-Spec mode. This time I'm trying to play them A-Spec, but I'm being careful about when I start one. Still, I plan to B-Spec all of the races that last more than 3 hours.
Maybe in GT5 we'll have a game option to limit the maximum length of endurance races (wishful thinking, I know).
In GT4, I find two problems with them, not unsurmountable but still annoying:
1) It is hard to figure out which car in your garage will give you a good challenge while still being winnable. It is annoying to have to try multiple cars, starting a race, running several laps, aborting and changing car... just to try again, and again, and again until you find the one that is worth doing.
2) Many of the races are way too long... more than I'm willing to dedicate to a game - any game - in one sitting. It would be better if you could save mid-race. Leaving the PS/2 paused for a few days until I'm free to continue is not an option for me... besides wasting electricity, my power company sucks and the PS/2 gets reset when the power dips or fails (a common event).
So, the first time around I played most of the endurance races in B-Spec mode. This time I'm trying to play them A-Spec, but I'm being careful about when I start one. Still, I plan to B-Spec all of the races that last more than 3 hours.
Maybe in GT5 we'll have a game option to limit the maximum length of endurance races (wishful thinking, I know).
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sorry to hear about your power problems, the power went out on me once while my ps2 was loading stuff off the memory card for gt3. lost all the files on the card for about 10 games.
I have a very boring night job. took my ps2 to work and finnished the 24hr Nurburgring race in 3 1/2 nights, 100% A-spec
was a little worried about someone pulling the plug on it during the day though so i unhooked it all except for the power and hid it in the drawer of my desk.I would be so pissed off if gt5 didn't have any 12 or 24hr races. even with a competitive car, the 24hr races can get a little tiresome, but overcoming that is a challenge itself, what is wrong with a little bit of a challenge every now and then?
that said, i have now A-spec'd 2 of the 3 24hr races and now that i've done them once, i probably wont bother with them again.
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