Engine Braking?

[ChauncyMarsh]

My buddy swears by downshifting in big slow turns, claiming it adds additional slowing. I think it's annoying b/c of the sound of the topped out gear, but can't tell him he's wrong. Do you think the physics of this game actually slow the car when he does this?

 

[John Crellin]

yes it does work and is good way to get more rotation in a corner. I usually dont down shift unless im in the power band of the lower gear though. Too much rev topping and you lose stability and the car will corner faster in a higher gear anyways.

 

[zzz_pt]

Maybe it slows down faster (I'm not sure) but you lose part of the control you can have by shifting gears on lower rpms.

 

[raghza]

I've done it since GT5 and I'd say that for some cars you can shave quite a lot off the braking distance, especially in heavy 4WD cars. But yes. you do lose control so best to do it when driving straight
E.g. the Nurburgring GP's first corner. When I start braking, I kick the gears down to 1st or 2nd (depending on the car) and then stay on the brakes.
For experiment, I'll try today, how much does holding the clutch down (no engine braking) while braking increase the braking distance.

 

[Scaff]

My buddy swears by downshifting in big slow turns, claiming it adds additional slowing. I think it's annoying b/c of the sound of the topped out gear, but can't tell him he's wrong. Do you think the physics of this game actually slow the car when he does this?

Yes it does, and in a hideously unrealistic manner, as the resulting loss of control that should occur is either missing or reduced to such a level as too be almost invisible.

Add in the lack of any real drivetrain damage and it's a break from reality that annoys the hell out of me.

Try it in the likes of AC, PC2 and not only will you end up racing the wrong way (if RWD), you will also damage or blow your drive train.

 

[Anirudh]

I actually tried This. I was downshifting to 2nd gear on the first corner of Lake Maggiore circuit. I tried downshifting to 1st to see if it slows me down more. And it definitely does.. Not by much, but definitely does.

 

[Lord Protector]

in real life you would most likely fry engine valves and, as said above end up in a barrier but yeah, it does make a difference in braking in GTS...

 

[Stotty]

Not sure you get much benefit from bouncing the limiter on down changes anymore... I haven't seen it used in any of the top 10 Q laps I've watched recently.

 

[Lord Protector]

Not sure you get much benefit from bouncing the limiter on down changes anymore... I haven't seen it used in any of the top 10 Q laps I've watched recently.

in road cars the revs aren't usually stuck at rev limiter, rather they are just way higher than the rev limiter and they do slow you.

 

[Stotty]

in road cars the revs aren't usually stuck at rev limiter, rather they are just way higher than the rev limiter and they do slow you.

Evidence?

 

[05XR8]

Yes it does, and in a hideously unrealistic manner, as the resulting loss of control that should occur is either missing or reduced to such a level as too be almost invisible.

Add in the lack of any real drivetrain damage and it's a break from reality that annoys the hell out of me.

Try it in the likes of PC2 and not only will you end up racing the wrong way (if RWD), you will also damage or blow your drive train.

I did it at Daytona and was rewarded with a damaged clutch and 2+ minutes of stationary time, in my pit box, for repairs.

 

[Lord Protector]

Evidence?

I believe you can try it yourself it might only occur in sports mode though as I usually only drive there.

 

[Stotty]

I've tried forced down changes in Sport mode... doesn't shorten braking distances IME (at least not in grp 4 or 3 cars - I don't drive road cars in Sport).

 

[user3392345]

Engine braking in GT-S dont work for me. I think there is not even some simulation of mass(sry dont know how to discribe). In Assetto Corsa it works and feel good. In GT-S no.

 

[ChauncyMarsh]

in real life you would most likely fry engine valves and, as said above end up in a barrier but yeah, it does make a difference in braking in GTS...

I got my dad in the chair and he never let the RPM get above 7000. I said "Dad, these are speed machines. They wanna run!" His only response was that it wasn't good for the engine. hehe.

This is all great input. Thx

 

[GTFraker]

My buddy swears by downshifting in big slow turns, claiming it adds additional slowing. I think it's annoying b/c of the sound of the topped out gear, but can't tell him he's wrong. Do you think the physics of this game actually slow the car when he does this?

Rev topping or turning in in a higher gear then downshifting mid-turn? I sometimes do the latter to see if it gives me a better exit but rev topping is disgusting.

 

[ChauncyMarsh]

After discussing this topic with said friend, he told me that he tries not to do it IN turns, rather to slow down in the straight leading up to the turn. Either way, the noise is still atrocious.