Enhancing the Car Building Experience

[Nismo_GTR]

it is not really a competetor with those models, im not sure though.
it has quite a lot of muscles. but so does porsche GT3, so i may be a competetor indeed. but i think GT-R aims at other models to compete, what does the rest think?

 

[NismoR34Ztune]

I think it does aim for those cars.....I read a lot about it, also about nissan's view....

 

[Nismo_GTR]

i see.. Well that should explain everything. i think it will outrun most of his competetors

 

[Dave A]

We have a whole section of the site dedicated to Nissans and a good few threads related to Skylines and the new GT-R. For the love of god, please stop going so off topic. You're just posting unrealted stuff in all the topics. The topic is a topic about enhancing the car building experience, by all means use a GT-R as an example to make a point, but a point on topic. NismoR34Ztune, your a newer member here, but I've already asked and so has Pupik. Nismo_GTR you've just agreed not to and striaght away your back offtopic again. If you want people to cut you some slack, listen to what they're telling you, we've asked nice enough then next time you get asked will likely be from a moderator, don't let it come to that. You can say how much you like ther GT-R, by all means, but do it in a topic related to the GT-R. check out the auto news and general forums, you'll be better off in there talking about it.

 

[NismoR34Ztune]

you're right man...

 

[NismoR34Ztune]

I'm not just a new member, I'm not very often on forums, maybe thats it so sorry for the inconvinience

 

[Dave A]

No problem then 👍.

 

[Famine]

I'd just like to reinforce this sentiment:

Nismo_GTR & NismoR34Ztune...welcome to GTPlanet.

Now both of you buddies stay on the bloody topic, or you'll go the way of the R34...discontinued!

Firstly, welcome to the site. Secondly... stick to the topic at hand - or find one relating to the topic you seem to want to talk about. If you want to slowchat, use MSN, not GTPlanet. Also, you may use the "Edit" button to include extra information in a prior post, rather than making a whole new one immediately after it.

 

[Nismo_GTR]

i apologize, we will bare it in mind, thanks for the info though

 

[LeadSlead#2]

Get rid of sports, semi-racing and racing parts, and have multiple brake kit's, exhaust systems, ECU's etc. Give us more choice on the parts rather than the same ECU upgrade for every car. Don't give us starge 1-4 turbo's, give us different turbo's of different sizes, let us choose to turbo, suprcharge or NA tune every car. Give us the option to take a turbo off a car that alreay has one, give us the option to twin turbo or supercharge cars. Like I said as well, we can all relate to the idea that stage 1 turbo's represent smaller turbo's, but give us a selection of small, medium and large turbo's to choose from not jsut one of each. This goes for all the aprts, a choice of parts, not just one of each. Let me alter the drivetrain of my car, let me bore out the engine of my car, let me swap the engien of my car if I want. to. Then you have visual upgrades, wings, splitters, body kit's etc, and paint shops etc. I want all that. If the next GT could offer me that, it would be a fantastic game for creating your own cars.

And guy's topic please, we don't want this thread locked because some of you can't contain the urge to say off topic things.

I agree here, but can't tell, are you saying they should call them small, medium, and large? I'd like specific name brand things, like a t-4 for example. but if stages 1 through 5 are what they have, I'm okay with it, as long as I can program the boost level.
Example stage 1: 2-7psi stage 2: 2-12psi stage 3: 2-18psi stage 4: 2-30psi Stage 5: 2-50psi obviously the bigger the stage, the bigger the turbo, and not all cars can take 50psi... and running 2psi with a stage 5 would be stupid. but you could do it.
Maybe even have different brands offer different sized turbo's.
Frankly, IRL, many companies sell turbo kits in "stage" form anyway.

 

[3spddrft]

What I was tryying to get at with the engine wear is cars will recieve tuning in different ways. A turbo is going to produce very different results if it is on a Corvette or Eclipse. I think they should not only produce different power bands and torque increases, but provide varying negative consequences to picking that set up on that car.

I'm not very knowledgable about engines but one of the details I would like to manipulate is wheel size. Being required to deal with higher weight on larger wheels, increased ride stiffness, and more tightness through corners.

I'm not sure if paint is included in the modding details, but I do think a minimum of racing numbers and custom paint colors should be allowed in GT5. The addition of downloadable wheels could also help to keep the game fresh as far as appearance goes without worrying about the body kit mess.

 

[Dave A]

No, I just used the small medium and large as brackets of size turbo's go by. Give them proper names but have different turbo's in each size braket, not just one that fills the small turbo role, one that fills the medium role and one large one etc, give us a choice of smaller sized turbo's, a choice of medium sized turbo's and a choice or larger one's.

 

[NismoR34Ztune]

and what about the superchargers?

 

[Dave A]

Same thing, have a big choice of superchargers as well. I'd like the NA tuning to be given more depth as well, rather than doing all the NA tuning as though it's one part let us tune and change each part individually if we want to.

 

[Dave A]

It double posted for some reason.

 

[NismoR34Ztune]

yeah now that I think of it PD has given us the impression that we're dealing with one part, note that I do not mean more than impression, but funny enough I didn't think of it before, I think people could get confused by it....

 

[Nismo_GTR]

could be, but i took notice that everyone has its totally own perspective
of his point of view on what should be and what should be not.
my point is we cant seem to come up with something that everyone is happy with. so how do you expect PD is going to implement stuff you want or not want. maybe im just delusional

 

[NismoR34Ztune]

own perspective of point of view?
Am I wrong or is that double-talk?

 

[Nismo_GTR]

these are the same meanings, correct. I was a bit of the world......

 

[niky]

Most of what I want has been said. In addition, tire sizes and weights... I want to be able to put a set of wide 15" mags off an old clattertrap sports car onto another one and see them sticking two inches out of the wheel well... and I want to feel the difference in handling and acceleration, too.

Controllable boost, carb tuning, ECU maps... heck... even the ghetto "unbolt your muffler" or "remove the air filter" mod would be nice.

Thing is, simple and arcadish games like NFSU or Tokyo Extreme can have "realistic" goodies like this, it's high time GT took this into account.

Oh, and I want to see that front splitter on the car when I put the wing on, too.

 

[LeadSlead#2]

No, I just used the small medium and large as brackets of size turbo's go by. Give them proper names but have different turbo's in each size braket, not just one that fills the small turbo role, one that fills the medium role and one large one etc, give us a choice of smaller sized turbo's, a choice of medium sized turbo's and a choice or larger one's.

I love the idea, I dont know if it's needed. I want it, just not at the cost of something else that I want. the performance differences are minor, except they could have ball-bearing and the "other" kind. that'd definetly be a factor in powerband and effeciency.


@ Niky: But NFSU and such only have 20-30 cars.... even toca or whatever those others are only have less than 300. thats not even half. granted, I could remove 5 civics, 10 skylines, and such things, and GT only has 400 cars then....
Just remember, PD wants to leave room for improvement for years to come, just to make sure we're buying it forever, and it's not a "new" game with updated cars and....nothing else.