Entitlement

[Danoff]

whoever wants to.

They're not entitled to help.

 

[1X83Z]

Originally posted by danoff
So you're saying that a voluntary contribution welfare system would be more efficient?

It would unquestionably force welfare to become more efficient, because if it stayed as it was now, nobody but idiots would contribute. Currently, it's akin to fueling a barbecue with $20's.

 

[Danoff]

nice illustration

 

[Red Eye Racer]

Originally posted by ledhed
Do you see the people livin in the streets ? How many do you think get help voluntarily ? Most people ignore them. Now add your stupid people ,, mentally ill, drud addled, under educated , uneducated , crippled , lame etc. Most of whom you do not see or hear of or from.
Who helps them ?

Individuals who are unable to fully support themselves and their families through the job market must learn to rely on supportive family, church, community, or private charity to bridge the gap.



For more of the same theory (same place I got the above paragraph) see here.

 

[Danoff]

thanks red eye.

The heart of the article you posted assumes that people are not entitled to assistance. To rely on private charities is to admit that some people who have no only alienated employers, but also their community, would probably not receive much help. To accept that, you must be willing to say that these people are not entitled to any of the earnings of the rest of americans. You must be willing to say that the only way these people should receive help is through the generosity of other people. If you can't say that, if you truely believe that all of us are entitled to each other's money if we do badly enough, you will not be able to swallow what is said in that article.

 

[Red Eye Racer]

Originally posted by danoff
thanks red eye.

The heart of the article you posted assumes that people are not entitled to assistance. To rely on private charities is to admit that some people who have no only alienated employers, but also their community, would probably not receive much help. To accept that, you must be willing to say that these people are not entitled to any of the earnings of the rest of americans. You must be willing to say that the only way these people should receive help is through the generosity of other people. If you can't say that, if you truely believe that all of us are entitled to each other's money if we do badly enough, you will not be able to swallow what is said in that article.

For some reason that paragraph you wrote is extremely confusing,.. but I'll break it down as best as possible:

1)The heart of the article you posted assumes that people are not entitled to assistance. - That is correct,... I DO NOT believe that people are ENTITLED to assistance.

2)To accept that, you must be willing to say that these people are not entitled to any of the earnings of the rest of americans. - that is correct,.. nothing earned means nothing recieved,... unless recieved through charitable contribution.

3)You must be willing to say that the only way these people should receive help is through the generosity of other people. - yes,.. see answer to #2

Cold hearted? Maybe to some,.. but I've never had anything handed to me,.. I grew up in an upper-middle class home,.. yet was forced to get a job when I turned 14 (just as an example). And it in turn, those implied responsibilities,... made me into a responsible, dependable adult.

 

[1X83Z]

Originally posted by Red Eye Racer
For some reason that paragraph you wrote is extremely confusing,.. but I'll break it down as best as possible:

1)The heart of the article you posted assumes that people are not entitled to assistance. - That is correct,... I DO NOT believe that people are ENTITLED to assistance.

2)To accept that, you must be willing to say that these people are not entitled to any of the earnings of the rest of americans. - that is correct,.. nothing earned means nothing recieved,... unless recieved through charitable contribution.

3)You must be willing to say that the only way these people should receive help is through the generosity of other people. - yes,.. see answer to #2

Cold hearted? Maybe to some,.. but I've never had anything handed to me,.. I grew up in an upper-middle class home,.. yet was forced to get a job when I turned 14 (just as an example). And it in turn, those implied responsibilities,... made me into a responsible, dependable adult.

For the first time ever when referring to you, I'm going to say... right on. 👍 Your 'responsibility' reasoning is logical too.

 

[Danoff]

red eye:

I agree with the article 100%. I'm just pointing out to other's where they're going get hung up.