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So I know I bumped that other thread....but it's just not extensive enough. Doesn't go into enough detail and I can't decide which car I would vote for.
So my question here: which car do you prefer for pavement driving, and which do you prefer off-road. There are such distinct differences between each car, it really is astounding because you can't feel these differences so much in GT1 or GT2.
So far, I've only driven early versions of both cars ...a Lancer Evo 1 and 2, as well as an Impreza WRX Sti versions I and II. I'm sure later versions of both cars eventually change and feel different in GT4, but so far I've only extensively driven these early autos.
on-road
The Evo 1 and 2 both understeer horribly on pavement. Only after installing a VCD with a strong rear-drive bias & some suspension settings and sometimes even tire combinations (S2/S1, for instance) was I able to get my Evo to not understeer ALL THE TIME.
The STis versions I and II, on the other hand, feels a lot less problematic. No special suspension settings, parts, or tire combinations are needed. The car steers under braking, and once you're deep in that corner, you can actually feel the drivetrain making adjustments. There is understeer, but it is much lighter in the STi. Mostly, the car grips, but you can also trail-brake, get it sideways, and even sometimes induce playful wheelspin or fishtailing as you exit corners. Generally, the STi feels more race-ready on pavement.
off-road
Now, the Evos 1 and 2 feel more dominant. It doesn't take any particular settings, parts, or techniques to drive an Evo off-road, tho I do prefer close or super-close gearing for Evos and many other cars. These cars (Evos) feel more capable. Enter a corner with hard steering, let the car slide in the dirt, and plant the throttle...the Evo will generally pull out with no problems. I found use of a VCD or LSD to be completely unnecessary (and somewhat damaging), even for snow driving. These cars understeer like mad on pavement, but drive off it like pros.
Now, keep in mind I'm driving early versions of each car so far. I'm sure later cars are more capable in each direction.
The Sti versions I and II, on the other hand, don't do as well off-road. Go ahead and try it...you'll see what I mean. These cars oversteer lightly on pavement, which is great, but off-road, it seems they're always ready for a spin...so you can't just slide them into corners like an Evo. I had to add a 2-way differential to counteract this...but the STis still wanted to spin occasionally. So I discovered that you must keep throttle slightly on thru most off-road corners, rather than just letting them slide in with no power (which induces too much lift-off oversteer). This keeps them pointed in the right direction, but it takes more concentration to drive an STi off-road, and isn't nearly as fun as driving an Evo off-road.
So, which do you prefer? For on and off-road?
So my question here: which car do you prefer for pavement driving, and which do you prefer off-road. There are such distinct differences between each car, it really is astounding because you can't feel these differences so much in GT1 or GT2.
So far, I've only driven early versions of both cars ...a Lancer Evo 1 and 2, as well as an Impreza WRX Sti versions I and II. I'm sure later versions of both cars eventually change and feel different in GT4, but so far I've only extensively driven these early autos.
on-road
The Evo 1 and 2 both understeer horribly on pavement. Only after installing a VCD with a strong rear-drive bias & some suspension settings and sometimes even tire combinations (S2/S1, for instance) was I able to get my Evo to not understeer ALL THE TIME.
The STis versions I and II, on the other hand, feels a lot less problematic. No special suspension settings, parts, or tire combinations are needed. The car steers under braking, and once you're deep in that corner, you can actually feel the drivetrain making adjustments. There is understeer, but it is much lighter in the STi. Mostly, the car grips, but you can also trail-brake, get it sideways, and even sometimes induce playful wheelspin or fishtailing as you exit corners. Generally, the STi feels more race-ready on pavement.
off-road
Now, the Evos 1 and 2 feel more dominant. It doesn't take any particular settings, parts, or techniques to drive an Evo off-road, tho I do prefer close or super-close gearing for Evos and many other cars. These cars (Evos) feel more capable. Enter a corner with hard steering, let the car slide in the dirt, and plant the throttle...the Evo will generally pull out with no problems. I found use of a VCD or LSD to be completely unnecessary (and somewhat damaging), even for snow driving. These cars understeer like mad on pavement, but drive off it like pros.
Now, keep in mind I'm driving early versions of each car so far. I'm sure later cars are more capable in each direction.
The Sti versions I and II, on the other hand, don't do as well off-road. Go ahead and try it...you'll see what I mean. These cars oversteer lightly on pavement, which is great, but off-road, it seems they're always ready for a spin...so you can't just slide them into corners like an Evo. I had to add a 2-way differential to counteract this...but the STis still wanted to spin occasionally. So I discovered that you must keep throttle slightly on thru most off-road corners, rather than just letting them slide in with no power (which induces too much lift-off oversteer). This keeps them pointed in the right direction, but it takes more concentration to drive an STi off-road, and isn't nearly as fun as driving an Evo off-road.
So, which do you prefer? For on and off-road?
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Why do they suck in your opinion?
And the amount of videos where you have Evo's & Rexy's smashing and obliterating the opposition is endless!! They only got ugly in the later years (past 2 models of WRX prove that!!) and I'm only sick of the WRX's sound because I've heard them for nearly 15yrs now!!
. i'll share my experience also..,
