Extension of Daily Races (Poll)

[Shottah072]

I wouldnt add more then 1 race. Would like more of course but we will need more players first.

 

[Crazy Taylor]

Nice idea from original post. I like to try all races at least once a day. More races would be cool. Possibly only 3 races due to what pd can maybe run on sport mode. Only a guess probably wrong.

 

[tofuhero]

What time of day do you play? I never have an issue with not having enough people to play.

I'm on the west coast, so the dailies switch over at 10:30-11pm here. So that's when I race, unless I really enjoyed the previous day's race, which isn't often lately. I rarely get put into a field of the same DR, and usually the races are only 10-12 people even when I play in the early evening.

 

[Sobek]

As for increasing Sport mode player count, one idea I had would be to remove the ability to grind for credits offline. This would push people who are stuck in old GT car collection habits into participating in Sport mode. Over half of GTS owners are those people; PD needs to incentivize them to play Sport mode. They might actually enjoy it once they tried it like many of us did.

Oh, good. An EAvil Battlefront 2 sympathizer. We GT fans don't need your levels of outrage. Seriously. How ignorant are you? We LIKE the grind.

I hate the "got to have it now" faction of millenials. I am a millenial like YOU and I PREFER the grind to being locked into a disgusting uncouth playerbase mode like Sport mode.

 

[Alpha Cipher]

Oh, good. An EAvil Battlefront 2 sympathizer. We GT fans don't need your levels of outrage. Seriously. How ignorant are you? We LIKE the grind.

I hate the "got to have it now" faction of millenials. I am a millenial like YOU and I PREFER the grind to being locked into a disgusting uncouth playerbase mode like Sport mode.

If you represent the GT fanbase then I'm out.

I don't need toxic communities

 

[J91patriz]

It’s time PD do something about this, so thanks for starting the thread.

Race A currently is useless and can be replaced by gr4, since the cars are super easy to drive.

Yesterday’s race at Brands Hatch with the Cayman only broke my finger as you can just go full throttle all the time and the cars overall run on rails.

So, if people for some reason really want gr4, then that class should be the equivalent of today’s A race.

I personally find road cars much more challenging and fun to drive so these should play a key role and MUST be included.

 

[superwally]

More races spreads out the player base. Some regions could handle this, some cannot. If PD want more people in Sport Mode, they need to make the credit payout for Sport races spectacular, that would bring a lot of people over from the other offline and online modes.

Nothing would get PD to add events faster than having more people who want to race in Sport Mode than they have rooms to race in.

 

[Akwaaba]

I'm not totally sure that it is necessary for Sport mode races to be region based. Living in Asia, when joining Europe, the signal bars shown are the same as when I use the Asian PSN account, maybe the matchmaking should be worldwide - based on a connection, then DR then SR.

Connection first, those with weaker internet will be limited to the local region, whilst those with stronger internet could be matched across a greater region. The really fast drivers are more likely to be matched with each other. That is a good thing for the rest of us who turn up hoping to qualify in the top 10 and finish a position or two higher.

Both DR and SR can be gamed - had a couple of bad races, and 'rage* quit' twice in succession. (* it wasn't rage, but was so far back, quit so I could get into another race!), When from an SR C (or was it D?) to SR S within 2 races. it is easy to pick up and drop SR. Not quite so easy to drop DR - although it isn't difficult, however it is much harder to increase DR into B, A & S if you don't have the pace. So match DR then SR. I'm fed up with being the fastest DR D, starting in 14th place racing against Dr C, B, A & S until turn two, after which I have a lonely cruise around hoping to gain places as the faster drivers might occasionally fall off the ribbon.

I would guess that if 3 regions can each support a selection of 3 events, then opening up across the world should make a choice of 4 or 5 events a realistic possibility. Cause I'm busy, I'd rather that then events ran for 2 days (maybe this could vary?)

My suggestions,
Race A: 3 - 5 lap, one make - usually N100-N500 cars, occasionally other categories of cars
Race B: 4 - 8 lap, one make - usually VGT cars (otherwise what is the point of them? I'd start with Ferrari P4, then Jaguar XJ13 ...)
Race C: 6 - 10 lap, Nxxx category, engine tuning (but no weight adjustments), minor fuel and tyre wear, only one tyre compound allowed - usually SS or RH)
Race D: 8 - 16 lap, Gr 1/3/4/B category, BOP, fuel and tyre wear, with multiple compounds available, can adjust gearing
Race E: 20 - 40 lap, endurance, with full tuning allowed, rotate between Nxxx on SH or even comfort tyres, through Gr 1/3/4/B with various limitations on tyre compounds.

 

[ceres2000]

Race A - The usual N Series or One Make 4-8 laps depending on track.
Race B - Gr.4/Gr.3 8-12 laps
Race C - Gr.4/Gr.3/Gr.1 14-20 laps

Race D - Special race, once a week, could be an Endurance, with tyre options, tuning, multiclass affair.

 

[GT Sport]

Daily Race A: N class
Daily Race B: Gr.4 Class
Daily Race C: Gr.3 Class
Daily Race D: Gr.B (which has never been featured in Sport mode)
Daily Race E: Gr.1

Like said, Gr.B class hasn't show up in Sport mode so I think that my idea would be great. Yes some people love One-Makes but I find them boring some times. Why not have a competition of the same class rather than the same car.

So Daily Race A will be with N classes.

3 races are still ok, let's don't be ungrateful.
Just have a plenty of different classes and tracks. Not always the same.

Also, after the Ps3 era comes to its end, Kazunori stated that they will give more emphasis to their servers. So, we may get what we want.

Also, in the Demo there was a Polyphony Digital Championship next to the Manufacturers one.
What happened to this one?

 

[VeeDoubleU]

Race A currently is useless and can be replaced by gr4, since the cars are super easy to drive.

In your opinion. There are a lot of slow road cars I enjoy racing, and with the right group of people, can really provide some good racing. Sadly, the tracks that are often used (and are in the game) don't work well and turn into single file bores.

Also, having slow road cars will cater to new players who are playing Sport Mode for the first time. I understand you are saying the cars are as easy to drive as Group 4, but the racing isn't the same, and the cars are actually harder than Group 4 to be fast in I think, as dealing with the understeer can be very tricky.

 

[GT Sport]

Also, having slow road cars will cater to new players who are playing Sport Mode for the first time.

Not everyone can play without assists. Some just got the game or for any other reason they are slower or they just love road cars.
So there should be N class too.

 

[djdest]

I would like to see tyre choices in every race, and also be able to modify suspension and gear settings too

 

[TheGeologist]

Once thing I would like to mention is that no one has voted for "The system we have now is fine". While 25 votes isn't a large sample size by any means, I do think it shows that people aren't thrilled with their scheduling of Daily Races.

Still not a huge number if votes, but so far we're still heavily leaning to change

 

[zaxs]

Definitely expand.

Everyday there should be one long ("C") , both Gr 3 and 4 Daily race on real world track, that doesn't need to be same.

Everything else could stay, though I would like to see endurance entry with 25-30 laps.

 

[J91patriz]

In your opinion. There are a lot of slow road cars I enjoy racing, and with the right group of people, can really provide some good racing. Sadly, the tracks that are often used (and are in the game) don't work well and turn into single file bores.

Also, having slow road cars will cater to new players who are playing Sport Mode for the first time. I understand you are saying the cars are as easy to drive as Group 4, but the racing isn't the same, and the cars are actually harder than Group 4 to be fast in I think, as dealing with the understeer can be very tricky.

We are actually saying similar things.

If the only purpose of race A is to cater to new players, then gr4 would suffice as I share your view that they are easier to be fast in than some small road cars.

Hence my idea of replacing race A with gr4 if people really want gr cars (I’m not one of them if it wasn’t clear).

Small cars might be fun for the occasional race but I don’t think people enter in the game excited at the idea of racing a swift, even if it were around the Nurburgring, always in my opinion.

It would then be better to have a shuffle race like in the old GT with low powered cars and comfort tyres, that I think would be fun.

As a N500-600 fun at the moment I get nothing. Either I race with a Swift / TT or gr cars plus some occasional random like the viper or the pick up truck.

 

[BrunusCL82]

I really would like.

First, we need a LOT MORE RACETRACKS. URGENTLY!

I am losing several days because the last daily races are boring, the modalities do not please me, or the racing circuits are repetitive and tedious.

I'd put in just one more race (Race D). Fifteen laps and two stops.

 

[FUNanywhere]

Don't expand just make one Race a week longer with Tuning

 

[VeeDoubleU]

We are actually saying similar things.

If the only purpose of race A is to cater to new players, then gr4 would suffice as I share your view that they are easier to be fast in than some small road cars.

Hence my idea of replacing race A with gr4 if people really want gr cars (I’m not one of them if it wasn’t clear).

I said it is easier to be quick in Gr 4 cars compared to N100-400. I didn't say Gr 4 cars are easier to drive for new drivers.

Slow cars are easy to drive but harder to master. Also, because they are slower, they don't require as quick reaction times when racing against others, so once again way better than Group 4 for new drivers.

 

[Mr616]

The only issue I have with your suggestion is the extra 2 races. I think it only needs 1 extra. You could limit Gr1 to repalce a Gr4 or 3 a few times a week to coincide with the longer race (thus making Gr1 always the 10 lap + race, and on that day make Gr3 & 4 a multiclass race together maybe?).

 

[BrunusCL82]

Today in Race B are three laps in Suzuka?

This is ridiculous!

My opinion:

Race A: 3 laps
Race B: 4 or 6 Laps
Race C: 10 or 12 Laps - One stop.
Race D: 16 or 20 laps - Two stops.

 

[monkeywall]

Weekly races, 60+ mins with tuning.

 

[TheGeologist]

If they truly need server space, maybe resources will become available when they shut the GT6 servers off

 

[FKAustria1911]

If they truly need server space, maybe resources will become available when they shut the GT6 servers off

They don't need server space, the sport mode isn't much more than a glorified lobby and I don't think those are restricted to a specific number.
It's funny when people find all kinds of excuses, like the matching consuming so much calculation power for a few simple aggregations, subtractions, multiplications and divisions - a modern processor can do billions of such calculations per second, you could probably match 100000 races with the computing power required to render your car in the game for just one second.

 

[racer_xis]

Yes, the idea is good, but I would like if it was less restrictive... somedays two "one make" races are good, I like "one make" and dont like when the car of the day is too slow, having a second "one make" with faster cars is good sometimes

 

[flamingchariot]

A lot of people have been complaining about the Daily Race selection this week. I haven't liked any this week either.

I've mentioned this idea on several threads, and rather than continuing to mention it elsewhere, I've decided to give it a single thread.

I want to know what you guys think of the following idea

I want to extend the Daily Races from 3 to 5.

Race A will be reserved for one make races.

Race B will be reserved Nx00 races.

Race C will be reserved for Gr4 races.

Race D will be reserved for Gr3 races.

Race E will be reserved for Gr1 races.

Length of races would rotate every day so that 2 races are your 10 lappers with fuel/tire wear, and the other 3 races are sprints. On Day 1, A and B would be long, on Day 2, B and C would be long, Day 3 C and D would be long etc...

The lobby sizes depend on the track.

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What are the benefits of this system?

Some people enjoy Gr3 races, some people enjoy one make races. By having all the options available every day, more people are likely to play.

I've noticed several people mentioning on the forum that they haven't done a lot of racing lately due to the poor scheduling. We can bump the daily player number with this method.

I would be curious to see if this method would help reduce that awful number of ~70% of players who never tried sport mode as well...

What are the disadvantages of this system?

It's possible players could be spread too thin during FiA races because there would be 7 active races. It's also possible that the track roster will feel even more repetitive then it does now, but it already does feel pretty repetitive the way they select tracks so...

Also, I think it's okay to be repetitive if the tracks are fun. (Stop with the ovals PD) lol

If you like this idea be sure to like it up and vote in the poll. Who knows, maybe PD will catch wind.

Lets face it you are not in charge PD are...stop complaining and play the game there are all things we don't like about this or that in life but being grown ups you learn to deal. Its the same with virtual world dude you kind of get what you are given and have to make do...Not saying there aren't plus points to what you are saying but it won't change anything like decrying politicians on facebook. Unless Kaz listens to every person...games would never get made if that was the case

 

[Factor41]

I wouldnt add more then 1 race. Would like more of course but we will need more players first.

This. With the current player base, I'm still seeing races with people from DR A to D in the same race which suggests not enough people in the pool. It's a bit of a catch 22 - there may be more players if there's more race variety, but they won't add more races until there are more players to fill them. Then again, it may just be that hardly anyone plays the one-make races when the crap cars are on, which is why i'm seeing such a spread of abilities in one race. Also, there's a definite downward trend in player numbers which doesn't bode particularly well for expansion of the mode to more races.

Weekly races, 60+ mins with tuning.

I'd be dubious about adding 60 minute races. Doing the hour races in League requires a big commitment of time, and with online you don't have the opportunity to pause. I think races of that length would alienate a huge proportion of the more casual players or you'd at least see a lot of people dropping out mid-race just out of boredom if the race isn't going their way.

 

[TheGeologist]

Lets face it you are not in charge PD are...stop complaining and play the game there are all things we don't like about this or that in life but being grown ups you learn to deal. Its the same with virtual world dude you kind of get what you are given and have to make do...Not saying there aren't plus points to what you are saying but it won't change anything like decrying politicians on facebook. Unless Kaz listens to every person...games would never get made if that was the case

1. Never said I was in charge of PD

2. I'm allowed to voice my opinion on the forum (and clearly most people are inclined to agree with me... The poll currently says that 75.5% of people who have voted agree with me outright. Furthermore an additional 13.8% think the daily races think they should be extended, but in a different manner than I have presented. So we're sitting at about ~90% of people that have voted currently agree they should be extended.

3. If there was a large enough movement, it is possible PD could catch wind. Remember when the Daily Races were a week long and everyone hated it? That changed pretty quick

4. What does "decrying politicians on Facebook" have anything at all do with what we are talking about?

5. You do not know me. I can assure you I have learned how to "deal" with life. But I have also learned with discussion, it is possible to bring change

6. You are not a mod, don't tell me what to post/not post

 

[OrokuSaki]

I'd like to see a "public poll" spot open up where you get to vote each week what Race #4 will be. Given three track options, have the public vote on track, race type and car categories.

 

[TheGeologist]

This. With the current player base, I'm still seeing races with people from DR A to D in the same race which suggests not enough people in the pool. It's a bit of a catch 22 - there may be more players if there's more race variety, but they won't add more races until there are more players to fill them. Then again, it may just be that hardly anyone plays the one-make races when the crap cars are on, which is why i'm seeing such a spread of abilities in one race. Also, there's a definite downward trend in player numbers which doesn't bode particularly well for expansion of the mode to more races.

That's a good point. I was not aware of that. I wonder if PD has a plan to counteract that? I've been wondering if they could take the CoD/GTA approach and offer a x2 XP/money/mileage pts weekend on sport mode races.

Since the game is advertised as an online racer, they should really consider raising the payouts for sport mode anyway