F.I.T.T Tunes the Seasonal Beta - A-Spec 500PP FR Challenge June 6

[GTP_CargoRatt]

That's what the 370PP winners are using including myself.

I thought the meaning of this whole thread was to come up with your own original tune for this. I hope you are not taking credit for this tune as it is not yours, it is Praiano's and proper credit should go to him. In the future, if you use or post someone else's tune, it is proper etiquette to give the person who created it the credit.
@ Hami: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the basis of this was who could create the best tune. Otherwise, its kinda pointless if people are just going to use other peoples tune as their own.

 

[Onboy123]

I thought the meaning of this whole thread was to come up with your own origiginal tune for this. I hope you are not taking credit for this tune as it is not yours, it is Praiano's and proper credit should go to him. In the future, if you use or post someone else's tune, it is proper etiquette to give the person who created it the credit.

He's not taking credit for anything as far as I can see in his post, he's merely recommending it, though it would be nice if he did give credit where it's due.

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

He's not taking credit for anything as far as I can see in his post, he's merely recommending it, though it would be nice if he did give credit where it's due.

Thats what I mean, proper credit should be given. Otherwise its like saying its yours. Like I said, I thought the point of this was to create your own tune, like a tuning challenge. Otherwise, its pointless as we already have another thread where people post their lowest PP wins.

 

[Onboy123]

Thats what I mean, proper credit should be given. Otherwise its like saying its yours. Like I said, I thought the point of this was to create your own tune, like a tuning challenge. Otherwise, its pointless as we already have another thread where people post their lowest PP wins.

Yup. So quite why it was posted here, I don't quite get.

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

To my tuning friends, this is the challenge that I am putting forth. Who can build "the tune" with the lowest PP, that can produce the most money for the seasonal drivers? Or, who can build the car that is the most fun or most creative, low PP car. This isn't going to be as strict as our monthly competitions. This is purely about bragging rights. This is about positive comments from the seasonal participants.
This is what this thread is supposed to be about. Not taking someone elses tune that hasn't posted it in this thread yet for the competition. You are supposed to be creating your own tune, not taking others unless they themselves post them in this thread as an entry for this competition. Follow me? Otherwise, like I said, pointless thread.

 

[Dalone]

OK, have read the comments regarding the tunes. I appreciate the tune StGeorge passed on as finding a good one is not as easy for everyone as for some who know the ropes here.
In any case I found with that tune that I could not win with the GT 86 at 370PP so tried 380PP and could still only make 3rd, 4 secs behind winner, total time 7.16m.
I did find that the top speed posted, 270km, was way too high for 370 or 380 PP. 180km or 190km is far better.
I will add that if this is not the correct site to look for tunes, and discuss tunes for the Seasonal Events so be it, but I appreciate them and as KB18FAN said..."This is about positive comments from the seasonal participants", of which I am one.
Finally, my LFA at 440PP easily wins every race here and would be, in my opinion, a suitable candidate as a very good all round car at that PP.
Now I'm off to try and wear out the engine of it in a 9hr B spec race. Cheers.

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

I was quoting what Hami said in his opening post, to try to get my point across. Sorry if I didn't make that clear.
Some people are just grabbing tunes from the tuning forum and lowering the PP to see how low they can go. Thats not the point of this thread if you go back and read the OP.

 

[Motor City Hami]

Yes, I was hoping for the tuners, garages and independants to use this thread to post their tunes for the seasonals. Then, other drivers could drive the tunes posted here and comment on the PP levels they were able to achieve with them. Pulling a tune from someone elses garage wasn't really the initial intent, but I am being kinda loose with this because it seems like a fun idea that could turn into a tuning competition for FITT in the future.

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

Yes, I was hoping for the tuners, garages and independants to use this thread to post their tunes for the seasonals. Then, other drivers could drive the tunes posted here and comment on the PP levels they were able to achieve with them. Pulling a tune from someone elses garage wasn't really the initial intent, but I am being kinda loose with this because it seems like a fun idea that could turn into a tuning competition for FITT in the future.

Thank you. But, if they are going to pull a tune out of the tuning forum, proper credit should be given to that tuner rather than just posting it as their own. That was my point earlier when he posted a tune by Praiano without giving him credit. Like I said before tho Hami, if people are just going to go to the tuning forum for this, it makes this kinda pointless because that is what they do, for the most part, in the main seasonal thread.

 

[HaylRayzor]

What is the AI lineup for those 370PP wins?
Also what driving aids are you using?

While I'm sure I could shave a few PP off my 395PP RX-7 with a full tune instead of just the tire swap I did, 25PP is a lot at this level.

I can only get my Opera down to 381PP even with dirty oil. On CR I beat the Fairlady Z S Version by 2.3 seconds with a less than perfect run. No aids except ABS1. I know it would do it at 370 but I can't get there.

I won't bother going through the pain of wearing out the engine just to shave a few more PP, so I'm moving on to a different car.

 

[Motor City Hami]

Thank you. But, if they are going to pull a tune out of the tuning forum, proper credit should be given to that tuner rather than just posting it as their own. That was my point earlier when he posted a tune by Praiano without giving him credit. Like I said before tho Hami, if people are just going to go to the tuning forum for this, it makes this kinda pointless because that is what they do, for the most part, in the main seasonal thread.

Agree that credit should be given.

And, if this does turn into just a duplicate thread to the seasonal, we will host these in the tuning forum on our own. It's too cool of an idea not to do it. Just need to get the time to start posting tunes. This weekend.

 

[GeeBaby]

Beating the Cape Ring seasonal at 370pp without the Shelby is doable. I would like to see who can beat it with with the Shelby in the race.

To beat the Shelby, you need to do at lease 58.... sec laps

 

[krenkme]

I had a little time last night to get started. I'll have at least one tune posted in this tread for everyone to try. It won't be the lowest PP, and it may not win, but it should be a fun ride

Edit - I don't like to limit the engine on my cars (personal preference) but I do add weight

 

[HaylRayzor]

Just beat the Supra RZ at CR with an Amuse R1 at 371PP by 2.5 seconds. That is as low as it will go even with dirty oil.

The first run the Supra put me in the grass on the last lap. Second run I didn't give him the chance because I bumped him off line so he wouldn't be right on my butt entering the chicane.

 

[yanaran]

Won CR with a Trueno at 376pp, rx-7 rabbit this time. Has anyone checked which lead car is the slowest?

edit: I'm using "Bunta spec" tune from RLT Garage (with some upgrades removed to get 145hp)

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

Agree that credit should be given.

And, if this does turn into just a duplicate thread to the seasonal, we will host these in the tuning forum on our own. It's too cool of an idea not to do it. Just need to get the time to start posting tunes. This weekend.

Cool. This is a good idea you have and I'd just hate to see it turn into the same thing as the main thread.

On other note, I'm working on a tune for the Toyota 86GT '12 at Cape Ring Inner. So far I've won at 390 PP for $1,133,250 credits. I know I can better that but I've got physical therepy right now so I'll try later. Peace.

EDIT: After reviewing the above threads, I think I'm tuning the wrong car as I seriously doubt the Toyota 86GT can win lower than 380 PP. If it can, let me know otherwise its fruitile for me to continue with this car. Gotta go.

 

[yanaran]

After reviewing the above threads, I think I'm tuning the wrong car as I seriously doubt the Toyota 86GT can win lower than 380 PP. If it can, let me know otherwise its fruitile for me to continue with this car. Gotta go.

It can indeed, I bought a new 86 GT from the dealer and added chassis reinforcement and limited it to 380 pp. Everything else was left stock and I won by 5 seconds against the M3, 7'05 total time.

 

[luv2drive]

Hami, this is a great idea! I'm not a tuner but I love trying out different cars and comparing them. In fact, I've been enjoying these new (430pp and 500pp) seasonals with the low PP bonus. I even tried out a few of the tunes you guys but for the quick 430pp competition you ran last week even though I didn't have the time to actually do them all

So I love the more informal plan you have here

So far the lowest car I've won Cape Ring with on the 500pp seasonal was 410pp (damn can't even remember the car now), but I'm trying to find one that will win it at 400pp or lower. Probably just need the right tune from one of you all

KBFAN, I'd love to try your GT tune if you're willing to give me the details

 

[DCSemi]

That's what the 370PP winners are using including myself.

Hehe! That's my TV, and my picture!

I love this setup!

For those who doubt you can win Mt. Aso with this tune @370pp, I did it.. but I guess I had a slow lineup, go check my post for the lineup during that race.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7187599#post7187599

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

Ok guys, just got back home and going to work on my tune some more. I'll post it when I'm satisfied that its the best I can do.
@ whoeve that was that they said the beat the Cape with the Toyota 86GT '12 @ 380, I'd like to see proof please because I had to drive my ass off at 390 and I'm not a bad driver, ask Hami. Not saying you're lying, just like to see proof. I can see 385, but 380 is stetching it a bit unless I'm missing something. My car was new, no oil change, no upgrades except lsd, suspension, ridgity reinforcement. No add ons that would increase the PP. Also using a flipped tranny instead of the tranny trick. Also full weight reduction with no ballast. I gotta be missing something if it can be done 10 PP lower. Gonna do some more testing now to see what I'm missing.

 

[Motor City Hami]

Ok guys, just got back home and going to work on my tune some more. I'll post it when I'm satisfied that its the best I can do.
@ whoeve that was that they said the beat the Cape with the Toyota 86GT '12 @ 380, I'd like to see proof please because I had to drive my ass off at 390 and I'm not a bad driver, ask Hami. Not saying you're lying, just like to see proof. I can see 385, but 380 is stetching it a bit unless I'm missing something. My car was new, no oil change, no upgrades except lsd, suspension, ridgity reinforcement. No add ons that would increase the PP. Also using a flipped tranny instead of the tranny trick. Also full weight reduction with no ballast. I gotta be missing something if it can be done 10 PP lower. Gonna do some more testing now to see what I'm missing.

Try adding some ballast and getting some power back? Just a thought.

 

[Dalone]

Cool. This is a good idea you have and I'd just hate to see it turn into the same thing as the main thread.

On other note, I'm working on a tune for the Toyota 86GT '12 at Cape Ring Inner. So far I've won at 390 PP for $1,133,250 credits. I know I can better that but I've got physical therepy right now so I'll try later. Peace.

EDIT: After reviewing the above threads, I think I'm tuning the wrong car as I seriously doubt the Toyota 86GT can win lower than 380 PP. If it can, let me know otherwise its fruitile for me to continue with this car. Gotta go.

I finally won cape Ring @ 380PP in the 86 GT, dropped down to 370 and failed so upped the PP to 375 and won.

 

[Dalone]

PS, when I won with the 86 GT at 380 and 375PP, the Infiniti car started first.
I'm sure that helped. Give it a go.

 

[Dalone]

Also I'm using the tune DC Semi/St George posted except that I dropped the top speed to 180km.
Worked far better for me than the posted 270 km.

 

[Motor City Hami]

We are five pages deep with this thread and really only have two tunes posted. I think much of this conversation belongs in the thread about the seasonal? I am not trying to shut down a good thread. Frankly, I am still sorting out the vision of these FITT Tunes the Seasonals.

I kinda had the vision that people would post tunes, as many as they'd like then people would drive them and comment on how low they were able to take the PP levels using these custom track tunes from the popular tuners and a few independants. The thread has kind of turned into a discussion only about PP levels and car used, not about tuning. Not sure if that is bad or good, just an observation.

FITT tuners, myself included, hope to start seeing some cool tunes being posted this weekend. Maybe all of the current discussion is o.k. since we don't have many tunes to offer up so far?

I will say, #1 goal should be "just for fun" and that seems to be happening.

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

Try adding some ballast and getting some power back? Just a thought.

Tried that, made it slower. Now he's saying 375, sure would like to see that. Car just doesn't have enough umf at the low of a PP. I know the perfect line around this track as this is where I finished 27th at in the NASCAR TT awhile back so I know its not my line. My total time is 7;09.xxx and he is saying he won at 7:05.xxx and won by 5 seconds. Something is not adding up here.

 

[nebularis23]

Ok guys, just got back home and going to work on my tune some more. I'll post it when I'm satisfied that its the best I can do.
@ whoeve that was that they said the beat the Cape with the Toyota 86GT '12 @ 380, I'd like to see proof please because I had to drive my ass off at 390 and I'm not a bad driver, ask Hami. Not saying you're lying, just like to see proof. I can see 385, but 380 is stetching it a bit unless I'm missing something. My car was new, no oil change, no upgrades except lsd, suspension, ridgity reinforcement. No add ons that would increase the PP. Also using a flipped tranny instead of the tranny trick. Also full weight reduction with no ballast. I gotta be missing something if it can be done 10 PP lower. Gonna do some more testing now to see what I'm missing.

What was the AI line up? As Dalone said, it helps having the infinity coupe concept first, then BMW tii...

 

[XDesperado67]

Tried that, made it slower. Now he's saying 375, sure would like to see that. Car just doesn't have enough umf at the low of a PP. I know the perfect line around this track as this is where I finished 27th at in the NASCAR TT awhile back so I know its not my line. My total time is 7;09.xxx and he is saying he won at 7:05.xxx and won by 5 seconds. Something is not adding up here.

I'm wondering if your "perfect" line might not be part of what's slowing you a bit. For the time trials you have to stay on track or get a red lap. In the seasonal you don't have to worry about getting red flagged so you can cut across the grass in a couple of spots and shave some time off. Two spots I found to cut on CRI are the entry to the long left hand sweeper where you can go almost straight into it instead of following the track which has you turning back to the right as you enter. Second one is the right left combo that follows the long sweeper. Instead of braking hard to make the fairly sharp right turn only slow to around 75-80 miles per hour, angle into the grass on the right side just before the actual turn skimming past the right side guard rail and you should come out just at the exit of that next left hander carrying pretty much all the speed the car will handle around those compound lefts that lead back onto the start/finish straight. Biggest key to winning these at low PP is keeping your speed as high as possible especially since you don't have the power to muscle your way around. Cutting won't work in time trials or clean races with penalties but for the seasonals only thing stopping you is your own sense of fair play. Same goes for use of driving aids, which I'm betting for those running 370PP tunes are using SRF to maximize corner speed.

 

[JackWilson]

We are five pages deep with this thread and really only have two tunes posted. I think much of this conversation belongs in the thread about the seasonal? I am not trying to shut down a good thread. Frankly, I am still sorting out the vision of these FITT Tunes the Seasonals.

I kinda had the vision that people would post tunes, as many as they'd like then people would drive them and comment on how low they were able to take the PP levels using these custom track tunes from the popular tuners and a few independants. The thread has kind of turned into a discussion only about PP levels and car used, not about tuning. Not sure if that is bad or good, just an observation.

FITT tuners, myself included, hope to start seeing some cool tunes being posted this weekend. Maybe all of the current discussion is o.k. since we don't have many tunes to offer up so far?

I will say, #1 goal should be "just for fun" and that seems to be happening.

I had a go at this on the day you mentioned it but then lost all interest soon after so I dont think I will be posting any tunes for this sorry.

Thats just my honest opinion.

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

Ok guys, got it figured out. Yes, I'm running the perfect line and always keeping two wheels on the track as per WRS rules. Its the way I run and I refuse to use any short cuts. If that slows me down, so be it. Thats all I'll say on that subject.
Moving on to what the real problem was and you guys are gonna kill me for this one. I feel like such a dumbass for this and am full ready for the smartass remarks I may have coming, lol. The problem was.....driving aids, lol. How the hell they got turned on is beyond me as I only use ABS 1. My daughter did play for awhile before I bought the car so maybe she turned them on. Thats all I can think of. Anyways, turned them off and now I'm flying. Will post my tune (minus the aids, lol) when I get to the game. Sorry if I offended anyone with my doubts about your times and PP levels. I just couldn't figured out what the hell was going on. Got it under control now tho, lol. Peace.