F.I.T.T WSR/Senna F3 Challenge

[Motor City Hami]

Are you using the 1980's version? It's faster then the modern lay out.
Or are you way faster....

I am way, way, way faster. What's the Senna record in the F3 challenge? 43.140 to get gold. My times are kinda down there. So we're using the Grand Prix, not the Indy version.

 

[Otaliema]

I am way, way, way faster. What's the Senna record in the F3 challenge? 43.140 to get gold. My times are kinda down there. So we're using the Grand Prix, not the Indy version.

That will do it... 👍 On the up side two major turns are in both lay outs.

 

[Pete05]

I will try throwing the car around the track Friday, too busy of a week otherwise. Also, going with 1980 Brands Hatch GP seems like a good choice.

Would you like me to add you to the list of tuners as tentative then?

I went with the 1980's version of the Brands Hatch Grand Prix layout as it was from the same era and, surprisingly, of the 20 rounds that counted towards the 1983 British F3 Championship, although they used the short Indy layout, the GP layout was never used.

Also, I've edited the OP to include some further information about the car & added links to articles about it's development and the 1983 Championship season.

 

[macdog54]

the 1:26 was on the right tires. for the record

I managed a 1.26.420 with an old Hami tune after five laps so 25, 26s should be in the ball park , pretty sure I was on the right track.

 

[Pete05]

I managed a 1.26.420 with an old Hami tune after five laps so 25, 26s should be in the ball park , pretty sure I was on the right track.

Please make sure you're using the 1980's version of the Brands Hatch Grand Prix layout. I'd hate to think anyone is using the modern version as that's slower by some way.
Keep fine tuning your settings as I'm sure the car will reveal more speed. I suggest everyone saves their best laps as a ghost & compares any changes they make so as to see if that change is a gain or a loss. What works on some corners may not work as well on others. Good luck everyone 👍

 

[DaBomm4]

Would you like me to add you to the list of tuners as tentative then?

Feel free to do so, the most I'll get will be probably about an hour on track for Friday. Should give me an idea if I will have enough time for tuning.

 

[MrGrado]

My best so far is 1:25.6.

Times below 1:25 must be possible.

 

[Motor City Hami]

My best so far is 1:25.6.

Times below 1:25 must be possible.

I already am below 1:25. Have run dozens of 0:43.1's. Not sure what's slowing all of you guys down?

 

[Pete05]

I already am below 1:25. Have run dozens of 0:43.1's. Not sure what's slowing all of you guys down?

 

[macdog54]

Please make sure you're using the 1980's version of the Brands Hatch Grand Prix layout. I'd hate to think anyone is using the modern version as that's slower by some way.
Keep fine tuning your settings as I'm sure the car will reveal more speed. I suggest everyone saves their best laps as a ghost & compares any changes they make so as to see if that change is a gain or a loss. What works on some corners may not work as well on others. Good luck everyone 👍

Peter could you put me down as a tester

 

[Pete05]

Peter could you put me down as a tester

Thank you macdog I'm more than happy to add you as a tester

 

[sinof1337]

Count me in as a tuner

 

[Pete05]

Count me in as a tuner

Consider yourself counted in the ever growing number of tuners

 

[Otaliema]

I already am below 1:25. Have run dozens of 0:43.1's. Not sure what's slowing all of you guys down?

I'm sure a 1:24 will be found during testing.

 

[Pete05]

I'm sure a 1:24 will be found during testing.

I'm sure of that too 👍

 

[DolHaus]

I'm sure a 1:24 will be found during testing.

I think I was on for a very low 25 but I got brave and tried to run the last corner flat out and fell off

 

[Pete05]

I think I was on for a very low 25 but I got brave and tried to run the last corner flat out and fell off

That's what I call bravery

 

[DolHaus]

That's what I call bravery

I felt like I could make it right up until the point where it became painfully obvious that I hadn't made it

 

[Pete05]

I felt like I could make it right up until the point where it became painfully obvious that I hadn't made it

It's times like that were you want your bucket & spade so you can play at the beach on the outside of the corner

 

[DolHaus]

It's times like that were you want your bucket & spade so you can play at the beach on the outside of the corner

I so rarely reach the last corner at race pace that I'm not entirely sure what to do with when I get there

 

[Pete05]

I so rarely reach the last corner at race pace that I'm not entirely sure what to do with when I get there

Well let me share this with you all. It'll take a very well setup car AND a very brave alien to take the last corner flat and make it out the other side cleanly.

 

[DolHaus]

Well let me share this with you all. It'll take a very well setup car AND a very brave alien to take the last corner flat and make it out the other side cleanly.

Feels somewhere between a dab and a lift, maybe a quick dab on the hand brake while keeping on the gas

 

[Pete05]

Feels somewhere between a dab and a lift, maybe a quick dab on the hand brake while keeping on the gas

Handbrake
If anyone can find a Formula 3 with a handbrake, I'll buy it for them

 

[Otaliema]

I so rarely reach the last corner at race pace that I'm not entirely sure what to do with when I get there

Really? It's the second to last for me. The lead up straight makes sure I'm at race speed with my gearing.

 

[DolHaus]

Handbrake
If anyone can find a Formula 3 with a handbrake, I'll buy it for them

Its an alien trick for making adjustments in high speed turns without losing momentum and rpm, if you tap it quickly it squeezes the rear brakes rather than locking them. I suppose the real world equivalent would be adjusting the brake bias to mostly/all rear via a balance adjustment dial on the wheel.

Really? It's the second to last for me. The lead up straight makes sure I'm at race speed with my gearing.

Surtees (T4) and Dingle Dell (T7) are my problem areas, I'm inconsistent on exit at 4 and keep touching the outside curb and stacking it at 7.

 

[Otaliema]

Surtees (T4) and Dingle Dell (T7) are my problem areas, I'm inconsistent on exit at 4 and keep touching the outside curb and stacking it at 7.

Yeah I think most people have problems at those two.
The corner location for T6 in the 80's version is killing me I keep braking for the modern layout

My challenge right now is actually of all things rotation. I can't find the sweet spot between very aggressive and moderate drive style. If I set it up for aggressive driving its glued to the track when driven moderate, if I set it up for moderate then flys off or spins out when driven aggressive.
Ugg the challenge of ground effect open wheelers

 

[Pete05]

Yeah I think most people have problems at those two.
The corner location for T6 in the 80's version is killing me I keep braking for the modern layout

My challenge right now is actually of all things rotation. I can't find the sweet spot between very aggressive and moderate drive style. If I set it up for aggressive driving its glued to the track when driven moderate, if I set it up for moderate then flys off or spins out when driven aggressive.
Ugg the challenge of ground effect open wheelers

I'm picking Surtees (T4) as a make or break corner with it leading into the longest straight, get it wrong & you'll loose multiple car lengths. Ground-effects cars were a phenomenon...until you disturbed the airflow beneath the car by hitting a kerb the it was all bets are off & so are you

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

Got a little time tonight, struggled with a few turns since I don't normally run this version of the track. Managed a 1:26.9

No way I can take a second off.

 

[Pete05]

Got a little time tonight, struggled with a few turns since I don't normally run this version of the track. Managed a 1:26.9

No way I can take a second off.

Keep at it, you're a decent driver & I know there's more time in you 👍

 

[DaBomm4]

If I could drive a lap without going off at some point, I think I am around 1.29s but hard to say right now due to sliding of the track.

I got my time in early and my best with minimal tuning so far is about 1:30 sounds about right for me compared to the rest of you guys.