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- Dixon_F1
F1 201X - Updates & News DiscussionF1 2010-2016
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Handling seems to be the most enjoyable of the series. Oversteer is much easier to induce and balance, while the low speed understeer feels more refined than 2012.
The difference in feel between the classic and 2013 cars is significant, but in a positive way for me. Even the 14-year-old FW21 and F399 feel much different than the current cars. In general, I notice more driver inputs for most classics while the 2013 cars seem to require a more clinical approach. The classics are more natural and fun to just jump into and run a quick GP or TT.
Only game issue I have is with the FFB on my T500RS. A weird sensation seems to happen after I experience the 'understeer FFB dropout'. The dropout itself seems natural to me (many feel it's too dramatic), but when I begin to straighten the wheel, I feel a significant nudge of FFB. It's strange. Feels like the jarring FFB you get from going off track. It's frustrating when trying to learn an unfamiliar car-track combo because I inevitably battle understeer for the first few laps, getting a not-so-friendly reminder how I'm doing.
The difference in feel between the classic and 2013 cars is significant, but in a positive way for me. Even the 14-year-old FW21 and F399 feel much different than the current cars. In general, I notice more driver inputs for most classics while the 2013 cars seem to require a more clinical approach. The classics are more natural and fun to just jump into and run a quick GP or TT.
Only game issue I have is with the FFB on my T500RS. A weird sensation seems to happen after I experience the 'understeer FFB dropout'. The dropout itself seems natural to me (many feel it's too dramatic), but when I begin to straighten the wheel, I feel a significant nudge of FFB. It's strange. Feels like the jarring FFB you get from going off track. It's frustrating when trying to learn an unfamiliar car-track combo because I inevitably battle understeer for the first few laps, getting a not-so-friendly reminder how I'm doing.
Mini Stiggy
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- 4,202
- Grove City, Ohio
- I__like_oranges
I wish that would do it! I try almost everytime I go into the game with no luck. I have solid internet, I just see no reason for this to be happening
- 10,836
- Plymouth, UK
- motorforum
Picked this up yesterday in Game for £28. Bought the Classic 90s cars and will buy the tracks when I get a bit more familiar with it. On the controller, there's a weird lack of correlation between initial turn in on the analogue and what the screen portrays, so I find myself putting too much steering angle in.
Lag? Is the TV in "game mode"? If it is in game mode try and ignore the animated steering wheel as it can be misleading. Look at the track and/or front tires.
Anyone else notice the classic cars don't have tire marking on the modern circuits? I assume it's some sort of licensing issue with Pirelli having the sole rights on the current season track list.
- 35,378
- Addison,Texas
- GTP_RACECAR
Seeing as that guy got this news from EBgames (the Canadian arm of Gamestop), it seems its only a matter of time before its official. The lack of communication from Codemasters doesn't make this any less likely.
- 12,018
- Indianapolis
- BrandonW77
I see the PS3 patch has gone live today. Anyone had a chance to download it yet? I plan to after work, just wondering if there are any real improvements especially with the FFB.
- 3,509
- Cumberland, BC
- GTP_BlacqueJack
Get the DLC of the game in Canada; that is what I did 
- 9,884
- Carthage, TN
- race_emhard
The differences I've seen so far (apart from the FFB) is the boost gauge on turbo cars only goes to about 3.5 bar, rather than 5 bar. And when you select the monitor in the garage, it zooms in before getting to the menu.
If anyone sees anything else, please post them.
- 12,018
- Indianapolis
- BrandonW77
I noticed the FFB drop-out is now gone which was really my only complaint (besides not being able to hear your engine at the start). It's certainly no Gran Turismo but I kept my expectations low and I'm quite enjoying it. I've really only done time trials and short grands prix but it's good fun. 👍
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- Tennessee
- Bobert962C
I measured 3.2 bar. I also noticed turbo cars tend to drive more slippery and tend to bottom out more often.
chromatic9
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- England
- chromatic9
No offence to codemasters but I'm feeling the excitement and interest has gone from this series.
I skipped F1 2012 and will do the same for this one for the time being. I can understand with only so many months between each game its hard to improve things greatly. I'd hoped for some major work to be done in parallel or a 2 year break.
Has there been any news about plans to overhaul the game perhaps for PS4/One? I'd hate it if they just carry with the F1 2010 core game and next gen just get upgraded to the current PC version.
I want them to make a serious start or get a new dev team on it. Not sure when their license runs out but I can't buy the F1 game in its current state that gets repeated each year. You really need a soild framework to build on and to me they never had it with F1 2010.
With 2014 changes, I fear they'll be busy enough in those 9 odd months before release so we'll get another tweaked version of their funky game.
I skipped F1 2012 and will do the same for this one for the time being. I can understand with only so many months between each game its hard to improve things greatly. I'd hoped for some major work to be done in parallel or a 2 year break.
Has there been any news about plans to overhaul the game perhaps for PS4/One? I'd hate it if they just carry with the F1 2010 core game and next gen just get upgraded to the current PC version.
I want them to make a serious start or get a new dev team on it. Not sure when their license runs out but I can't buy the F1 game in its current state that gets repeated each year. You really need a soild framework to build on and to me they never had it with F1 2010.
With 2014 changes, I fear they'll be busy enough in those 9 odd months before release so we'll get another tweaked version of their funky game.
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Downloaded the console update last night - quite a significant FFB change, at least for me and my T500RS. The only way I can describe it is, they cut the FFB torque in half.
Pre 1.01 console patch I had the Thrustmaster control panel FFB set to 50% and the FFB in-game to 10% so my arms wouldn't tear off. I like heavy FFB, but out of the box, this game was the heaviest I've felt.
Post 1.01 patch the Thrustmaster control panel FFB set to 100% and the FFB in-game to 30-40%.
I've found that the higher the in-game FFB force, the less detailed the FFB becomes in different driving situations. At FFB 100% (in-game), the understeer "drop off" is completely gone - it feels more like I have wheel weight ON mid-corner even though WW is set to 0%. At FFB 10% (in-game), the wheel torque of oversteer and the "drop out" of understeer are very apparent and give a good sense of car attitude, grip and traction. Problem is, it's just not strong enough. So, after much testing, I settled with around 30-40% as a compromise between maximum FFB torque and FFB detail modeling.
Anyone else find a big change in FFB post console patch?
Pre 1.01 console patch I had the Thrustmaster control panel FFB set to 50% and the FFB in-game to 10% so my arms wouldn't tear off. I like heavy FFB, but out of the box, this game was the heaviest I've felt.
Post 1.01 patch the Thrustmaster control panel FFB set to 100% and the FFB in-game to 30-40%.
I've found that the higher the in-game FFB force, the less detailed the FFB becomes in different driving situations. At FFB 100% (in-game), the understeer "drop off" is completely gone - it feels more like I have wheel weight ON mid-corner even though WW is set to 0%. At FFB 10% (in-game), the wheel torque of oversteer and the "drop out" of understeer are very apparent and give a good sense of car attitude, grip and traction. Problem is, it's just not strong enough. So, after much testing, I settled with around 30-40% as a compromise between maximum FFB torque and FFB detail modeling.
Anyone else find a big change in FFB post console patch?
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- East Midlands
- m8h3r
Got this last Saturday for £27 and I already prefer it to F1 2012. Couple of things stand out to me:
1. The tyre degradation, my driving style is was too aggressive, I'm more Hamilton than Button and they're wearing out so quickly. I'm struggling a lot to keep a steady pace due to this.
2. The curbs, in 2011, hardly noticeable, 2012, like skid pads, 2013, like train tracks.
3. The AI are bloody morons! They constantly hit me with their cars when I stick straight. For example this this morning which I got a penalty for. I have Pit Assist on so I don't have to worry about the driving in there and can take drinks. I was the Lotus-Renault.
1. The tyre degradation, my driving style is was too aggressive, I'm more Hamilton than Button and they're wearing out so quickly. I'm struggling a lot to keep a steady pace due to this.
2. The curbs, in 2011, hardly noticeable, 2012, like skid pads, 2013, like train tracks.
3. The AI are bloody morons! They constantly hit me with their cars when I stick straight. For example this this morning which I got a penalty for. I have Pit Assist on so I don't have to worry about the driving in there and can take drinks. I was the Lotus-Renault.
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- HarrisonMV1Ford
- DK Harrison
So, how does this game feel for DFGT/G27 guys? Just wondering, imo '12 was rough.
I'm running DFGT on PS3. Steering is weird to say the least. It seems like the game makes some small steering corrections for me. That might be fine for a gamepad but it is horrible for a wheel. Any way to turn that off? Also the FFB seems to drop off very sharply at high lock angles.
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- Aliso Viejo, CA
- Renown787B
Did you update the game? The FFB drop off some people complained about was fixed in the PS3 update. I currently use a Fanatec CSW base and F1 rim and I don't notice any auto correction. I have all driver aids off. Maybe having one or two of them on gives the sensation of auto steer. Just a guess...
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- liquidsnakehpks
Why cant they have a decent offline co-op season mode in f1 , still sticking with f1 2010 till they add a decent two player mode
I have a G27 and feels the exact thing (both pre and post patch). Seems like a steering aid aimed at pad users is still active when using a wheel. I play with all assists off.
It's really weird the game make steering corrections for you when you are at the limit of loosing the car due to oversteer, feels very unrealistic.
Anyone knows a way to get it off, or it's by design?
I have a PS3 digital copy, by the way.
Thanks.
- 35,378
- Addison,Texas
- GTP_RACECAR
Apoligies for posting in this old thread, but I didn't want to post about F1 2013 in a thread about F1 2014 AND I wasn't sure it was ok to post a new thread just to discuss my experience with it.
So its been almost a year since that debacle and finally, I have F1 2013. Having driven I felt a good amount now, I already love the driving in this game over 2012, particularly in this:
In 2012, you spun. No big deal, except for the fact that you could spin at speeds you shouldn't spin at and there are times where that happened a lot to me, a slide that should be easily corrected becomes a uncontrollable slide. As a result, I just avoided rain races all together because that meant I had to crawl at a snails pace just so I wouldn't spin and that meant the AI just left me behind. In 2013 however, that doesn't happen. Now if I get abit sideways, I can actually save it. I don't ever feel myself spinning at slow speeds where a spin shouldn't happen. I've yet to try rain races yet but after a brief stint in the young driver test featuring the wet, I managed to correct slides that were manageable (the same ones in 2012 that you could not at all correct no matter what you did). Another thing I love is that finally, I have more sensitive throttle control. This helps a lot (Which came really handy when I tried out the classic F1 cars because as I learned from F1CE, you cannot be greedy with those cars) and I can actually race and actually do laps without pumping the gas to keep RPMs where I want them, now I can just use the sensitivity of my fingers to keep the RPM where I need it.
So far after only playing it for a little bit, I love it.
So its been almost a year since that debacle and finally, I have F1 2013. Having driven I felt a good amount now, I already love the driving in this game over 2012, particularly in this:
In 2012, you spun. No big deal, except for the fact that you could spin at speeds you shouldn't spin at and there are times where that happened a lot to me, a slide that should be easily corrected becomes a uncontrollable slide. As a result, I just avoided rain races all together because that meant I had to crawl at a snails pace just so I wouldn't spin and that meant the AI just left me behind. In 2013 however, that doesn't happen. Now if I get abit sideways, I can actually save it. I don't ever feel myself spinning at slow speeds where a spin shouldn't happen. I've yet to try rain races yet but after a brief stint in the young driver test featuring the wet, I managed to correct slides that were manageable (the same ones in 2012 that you could not at all correct no matter what you did). Another thing I love is that finally, I have more sensitive throttle control. This helps a lot (Which came really handy when I tried out the classic F1 cars because as I learned from F1CE, you cannot be greedy with those cars) and I can actually race and actually do laps without pumping the gas to keep RPMs where I want them, now I can just use the sensitivity of my fingers to keep the RPM where I need it.
So far after only playing it for a little bit, I love it.
