Fast money through auctions.

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Brazil
Florianópolis, SC
Hi!

So i started playing FM4 this weekend and, i earned some money and XP in the last couple of days racing (and practicing) online against the AI (hardest possible way) and buying-reselling 1mil+ cars using the auctions.

Usually i can make 200-300k profit per sale, doing it as much as i can when im playing. I just leave about 4-5 cars there and collect later.


So, is that the best way to earn money besides rivals? Ive just started and im not familiar with all the shortcuts, not that i enjoy taking too many of them, i just like to buy a lot.

Also, please send me a friend request or allow me to add you, i race on GTPlanets WRS but i dont have any friends whatsoever in my friends list right now. Thanks and CHEERS!
 
Best way to make money is rivals racing and best way to earn XP is to just race.

Honestly, i havent actually raced on rivals mode yet. Ill get on that then...

Now, XP, i think the test track is very lucrative, 50k every 20 minutes, plus 6 affinity level ups...
 
Best way to make money is rivals racing and best way to earn XP is to just race.

It's been a while since I did Rivals, but as I recall you don't get a whole lot until you're beating the faster times, which means you need to be better than the majority of players. If you're among the top ten percent, this works fine, but logic suggests that most players can't be in the top ten or twenty percent of players. The bulk of players could probably expect earnings of 500 to like 10,000 CR per run, which isn't all that great. You can get quite a bit more than that doing a few laps of a race.
 
I've been running online multi-class races (me vs. 11 AI drivers) at La Sarthe. I usually set the race to about 6 or 7 laps which nets me around 45K XP. The driver and manufacturer level bonuses add up pretty quickly.

I drive whichever class/make that is the closest to the next level (bonus!) and split the classes 50/50 between my car's class and Class F. The challenge is that after about 2-1/2 laps you're now approaching the much slower Class F cars which are tough to dodge while you're in your own duel with a fellow R1 car.

Fun stuff!

(The only drawback to this? You can't pause online races, which is why I don't make them longer)
 
If you're a smart dealer you can make more money with auctions. I've been playing the auction house for a while now, it's a great and addictive feature. You gotta know what to look for and if you're lucky you find a cheap buy, then resell it for 100.000 till 200.000 profit if you know the value of the car compared to the new price.

There are so many idiots on there tough, auctioning a car at 5 times the value you would pay for it with the ingame dealer... Do they expect to sell something or what?
 
There are so many idiots on there tough, auctioning a car at 5 times the value you would pay for it with the ingame dealer... Do they expect to sell something or what?

I'd happily pay 5 times the dealer price if it has a good design on it (which isn't on the owners storefront) but I do see a lot of cars with silly prices, maybe they're trying to send credits over from a different account or friend?

I usually find a lot of money to be made through R1 class cars. I look through the current auctions to see roughly what price I could get out of them by selling at a value that isn't too cheap but not too expensive and then I buyout every car under that value and put bids in for many more, then once you own all the cheaper ones you can sell for a higher price while now being the cheapest. I don't think I explained that well at all.
 
The impossible prices are intentional, i believe theyre opening slots in their garages.

Now, i gotta tell you guys, im making a lot of money that way. I usually find racecars below 300k and sell it with a 30-50% markup, with a fixed price. Just a few hours ago i found a #4 C-Class Benz for 200k, sold it for 375k. If my car will have the lowest price until every auction for that model expires, its a sure sale.

I keep the original design (since its always racecars) tune it up until the maximum PI allowed for its class, tweak it a litle for better grip and auction it.

OR, since i got that 100% upgrade discount on many dealers, i throw everything available on it, making it an even better deal.

It works, you can always do rivals and everything, so why not keep a few good deals there on the side.

Of course, for many, earning money and buying cars are not an issue anymore, but i have just started to play and since the weekend, i got near 10m and my auctions are always active while i race.
 
Whenever a new DLC pack is released I sell most of the cars from the pack that day because for the first day or so people pay more than the dealer charges. :lol:
 
I've been doing the auction house all wrong, I had a MB Stirling Moss and sold it for $75,000...now I could have found someone to buy it for a whole lot more. No wonder I'm loosing money, buy low and sell high that's the ticket....haha
 
Here's a fresh exemple - 2 hours ago i bought (buy out) 2 McLaren F1, for 110k and 160k, sold for 375k a piece (also buy out).

I guess this really is the fastest way to grind larger amounts, yes?
 
I'd happily pay 5 times the dealer price if it has a good design on it (which isn't on the owners storefront)

As it turns out, I happily pay more than 100 times the dealer price if it's got a really nice design on it I really really want. :crazy:

Here's a fresh exemple - 2 hours ago i bought (buy out) 2 McLaren F1, for 110k and 160k, sold for 375k a piece (also buy out).

I guess this really is the fastest way to grind larger amounts, yes?

Unless you're a really good artists, or a really good tuner, yes, using the Auction House would seem to be the easiest way to make large sums of money. I've made heaps in the Auction House, and I actually started out with flipping 330s. I've picked some up for a couple K and resold them for a couple M. Nice margin. Nowadays, I only do 250s and a few DBR1s here and there. The good thing about those is that people have limits, and if you get the right bid in, nobody is going to outbid you and you get decent margins. Just the other day I picked up 5 250TRs for 7M each in a matter of a few minutes, and then resold them all for 7.9M. That's 4.5 Million with about 10 minutes effort. You have to know when to bid though, particularly in terms of times of day. Certain times of the day you can pick up stuff for real cheap which at certain other times you can sell for quite high. Just have to get a feel for the market and then play it accordingly.

As for being a good artist, I've seen certain artists make more than a Billion in a single day. Now that beats flipping cars hands down. :bowdown:
 
As it turns out, I happily pay more than 100 times the dealer price if it's got a really nice design on it I really really want. :crazy:

I would, if I actually had enough and the design was good enough. I saw an auction near the start of the game with a design I wanted but would have had to get about 5 million in 20 minutes which for me is impossible. Right now I just keep my credits at about 16-20 million just in case something nice pops up.

I've tried to make a profit on DBR1s but I can never find the right time to be on, so I usually buy Audi R8s (LMP) or the Audi DTM cars which always make a nice profit.
 
Indeed, some cars are really easy to make a decent profit.

Well, im starting to fine-tune these top end road cars like the F1, Zonda C, etc, and the "DTM" cars as well, before auction them... spent a fair amount of time tuning tires, suspention and differential mostly, and testing for the best possible grip and that racecar feeling, glued to the ground. Saved the setups and just load them up, so it just takes 2-3 minutes to work them now.

Is there any way people can identify cars with custom tunning? Do you guys usually test how the car feels or you just erase the setup and re-do it?

PS - I tried to do some art work, it seemed complicated, couldnt work it, i guess im not much of an artist as im a tuner. It would be great to be good on both and make those 1m+ deals.
 
There isn't really a way to see that someone has made a custom tune for the car which means your car will be treated like any other car, I just add all the upgrade parts because people can easily remove them all and some people like saving credits if they aren't already affinity level 4. I struggle to do the art stuff too, if someone showed me a shape or logo to make I could do it but my designs are always boring because I'm not creative at all.

I finally bought a DBR1, for 2.6 million which I thought was a good price. There was only one other person bidding on it, I'm waiting a while before I sell it but all the other deals I got today gave me back my 2.6 million. I tried bidding on some 250 GTOs but they always end up at such prices that you'd actually make no profit.
 
I just witnessed the highest sale (for me anyway) in the auction room
$22,000,000
Good for the seller...that is a return on your investment!!
 
I finally bought a DBR1, for 2.6 million which I thought was a good price.

That's an excellent price. You shouldn't have too much trouble making at least 3 Million on it.

I just witnessed the highest sale (for me anyway) in the auction room
$22,000,000
Good for the seller...that is a return on your investment!!

The highest sale I've seen for a car I was bidding on was over 200 Million (I've heard of others fetching even more), and the highest I've ever paid for a car was around 84 Million, I think.
 
That's an excellent price. You shouldn't have too much trouble making at least 3 Million on it.



The highest sale I've seen for a car I was bidding on was over 200 Million (I've heard of others fetching even more), and the highest I've ever paid for a car was around 84 Million, I think.

WTH????? you are pulling my leg right??? What kind of car was it?
 
200m, for a unicorn from Turn10 maybe?

See thats when you realize youre just a small fish. But i'll get there, i remember seeing lv40/40 guys with all gold licenses on GT5, didnt take me long to get there.

But damn, that is one expensive car...
 
WTH????? you are pulling my leg right??? What kind of car was it?

No, I'm not pulling your leg. 200 Million for an RX-7 isn't too uncommon, depending on what's on it. ;) I've actually seen a few cars go for 200M+, and many more for 100M+. The one I spent 84 odd Million on was a Porsche 911 GT2 RS. And yes, that's 350 times its dealership price. I just had to have it. :D

200m, for a unicorn from Turn10 maybe?

See thats when you realize youre just a small fish. But i'll get there, i remember seeing lv40/40 guys with all gold licenses on GT5, didnt take me long to get there.

But damn, that is one expensive car...

Nope, these weren't unicorn cars. Let's take, as example, this blowout from the DeadLights crew. Many of these cars were sold above the 100 Million mark. I had to drop out of a few of the auctions, as I just couldn't keep up. I managed to grab a few bargains, and ended up spending around 85 Million on four cars. Missed out on two I really wanted, dropped out when one got to 100 Million, and the other had shot past it when I re-checked the price. Guess I've got to be happy with what I did manage to grab.
 
Allright.

I took a shot on a custom racing design. Its on the auction house, a R2-875, black/bright-red #4 C-Class Benz, in case you have the chance to check it out.

Edit: I made a simple design for a F1 i bought for 150k, auctioned and sold for a litle over 800k after several bids.
 
If anime makes that kind of money I should give it a go....wait who am I kidding..my Japanese chick would end up looking like Frankenstein.....
 
I pick up a ton of $1000-$1600 cars, many in the 2nd and 3rd bid $2680-$2800 range. With wheels and Aero adds and somewhat decent paint they fetch 40K to 100K on buyout depending on what they are. Any car that's over 100 grand in the dealer that you can pick up for less than 20K can be set at 75K-90K with paint and wheels and sell on buyout 99% of the time.

Some of the common million dollar cars can be had for less than 50K, I stop bidding at 60K. Like the guy above, I add a ton of extras, put a basic handling tune in the car with an appropriate max for an index (..A600, S700..) and a buy out a little lower than the average selling price I usually see or 70-80% of new car dealer cost. It takes me some time to paint with the head, but even futzing for 1/2 a day nets me something easily tweaked for future cars.

I've picked up many cars like the St Ms Mercedes for 20-30K, spiff it nice and get a nice 300K-500K, or more on a good day. Pick up a GTR Spec V for 20K-30K that's loaded @ R1, paint it nice, max it R2 and get 170K on a buyout without having to do anything besides a nice paint scheme but pay for a wheel change, which is 1/2 price cuz you can sell the ugly set that's on it. Paint schemes don't have to be overly complex. Some of the best sales are simply single colors done well, a car with a good visual appeal.

1/2 the cars I buy are cars no one wants or cars that are painted so badly I have to take pity on them so I can strip the paint off it. In fact, the uglier a car is, the more I pay attention to it. Nobody wants an ugly car...

I especially love picking up cars no wants for 1000 bucks and netting a 40-50 thousand buyout for a max class minimal investment car with decent paint and a somewhat unique number. I only do paints once, each one is a little different. When you start getting into higher end sports cars you can get into 100K to 150K buy outs and sell them 90% of the time. When they don't buy out, they still net 75% of the buy out

Last AH outing I put up 9 cars. 1 fell flat, 3 went for what I had in them and 6 went for their buyouts. Got a nice just shy of a mil for appx 60K invested in cars and parts plus a little paint time tweaking the designs to be one offs. Some days are better than others, but on any given 10 cars I clear 1/2 to 2 million, depending on what type of cars I'm selling.

That said, you can ride around many of the rivals and not come close to winning, like the Viper on Indy Road for 5-10 laps and clear 30K plus and get 20K plus EXP and affinity bonuses. Any "stock only" rival usually pays well, and any "race car" rival pays well. Making the bounty is gravy, you still get paid to drive. Every perfect turn, drift, draft or pass makes you cash and XP. It's all money and it's all good. Just have to do it, and you don't have to go online and make up anything.

The drag rivals are really nice. Even in the 10K bounty bracket I cleared a million the other day. Tenthed the field to death an an A594 Dart. Now it's an S642 Dart, and I''m just starting with round two in the 25K bracket. 1/10th-ing the field will get very lucrative now.

I tune myself, but you can buy drag tunes that will get you into the 25K plus brackets all day long. After awhile you'll know who has the best ones. Paying 50K may seem like a lot, but you make it back quick if you want to.

Run a stock car first to get a time, then just race to stay just ahead of your rival, to just beat him once the tune is in. Use the Y button to change your rival, use the X button to find the "nearest me", find a time that's a 1/10th quicker and go. Even if you just reach the 10 K bracket, you can make your 50K back in 10 minutes, double it in another 10. If you're quick on the buttons, you can do it in less time than that.

Not saying this to be special or anything, but I'm far below your average Joe, and I currently have 62 mill after splurging on 30 AH cars the other day. Got 1/2 of them done and ready to go back in. I don't get to drive a ton, most of it is just playing with paint.

The simple truth is the fact I do something. Whatever I can on any given day. Even if it's just taking a stock Devon out for a drive in a Rival just to get the level 5 affinity level. Of course I try to do well, but when up against a tuned super car time, chances are mighty slim. But, the experience in the car, learning a new line in a corner, and the simple fact it pays me. I get $$, I get affinity pay and I get XP. I also now have free Devon parts for the 3 of them I picked up for less than 3 grand apiece in the AH.

Honestly, even with a little effort you can't help but make money in this game. Just drive a rival, any rival. If it pays decent, just run laps. Pays you very well to get better to where you can start riding in the gravy boat. You can even never actually "win" a bounty and make decent cash and XP. Especially for any one that is stock only and gives a shiny new race car to tear up.

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The drag rivals are good for money, although a tip for any monthly rivals is to wait a week or two so the bounties are greater as more people put a time in. At the start of the event I would need to beat one of the top guys to get 50,000 whereas after a while you could probably get that from a standing start run when more people have run the event.

I've picked up 13 Corvette C6.Rs for 1.4 million and they quite easily sell for 400,000. I have about 40 R2 class cars which I'm trying to get round to selling now I'm clear of R1 cars. Also a quick question but does anyone elses auction house always freeze every so often for about 20 seconds while scrolling through the cars?
 
The drag rivals are good for money, although a tip for any monthly rivals is to wait a week or two so the bounties are greater as more people put a time in. At the start of the event I would need to beat one of the top guys to get 50,000 whereas after a while you could probably get that from a standing start run when more people have run the event.

I've picked up 13 Corvette C6.Rs for 1.4 million and they quite easily sell for 400,000. I have about 40 R2 class cars which I'm trying to get round to selling now I'm clear of R1 cars. Also a quick question but does anyone elses auction house always freeze every so often for about 20 seconds while scrolling through the cars?

Actually yes mine does freeze every 20 seconds or so and i cant explain why
 
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