FIA GT World Championship [S1] ~racefan88 Wins The Title And Takes Season 1!~ [SIGN UP FOR S2!]Finished 

Should I change this threads name to now official FIA GT World Championship S1?

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CodDemon101
I am already planning it:P the OP will be much more organized next season expect it to start late July early august:)
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I wonder who will be displaying the 'number 1' race number for season 2!!

I would love it if everyone who signs up could make every race, I know that in real life people have commitments, family and jobs etc, but it would be great for a close championship and developing rivals throughout the season!
 
Litchi
Well, this is for the main race. The public link is here (sorry to Cod, he doesn't know how to share html link :P)

I'm going to do the same table for the sprint race right now and add the rule explanation as well.

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DONE

The page is now fully updated (scroll down to read the rule). Feel free to report any misunderstanding and sorry if you find any grammar error.
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Looks good, I'll have to test more scenarios, the omly issue I see is if someone is running second to last at the end of the race they could score more points than if they stayed there no? My test example was running tenth out of 11 at 99 percent of an endurance race. Unless i followed the wrong line across.
 
racefan88
Looks good, I'll have to test more scenarios, the omly issue I see is if someone is running second to last at the end of the race they could score more points than if they stayed there no? My test example was running tenth out of 11 at 99 percent of an endurance race. Unless i followed the wrong line across.
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Good thoughts. I edited the red lines in the rule accordingly. Could you re-do a test now plz?
 
Litchi
Good thoughts. I edited the red lines in the rule accordingly. Could you re-do a test now plz?
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I'm sorry there are massive problems with this chart, the first four tests I ran failed.

A) 99 Percent, Endurance race, 12 driver driver room, running 11th (To test :A scenario where there are greater than 11 drivers in a room, thus the driver still has the rule apply despite running second to last)Thus last place points are 6pts + 4pts = 10pts, 11th place is supposed to score 7pts if the driver had finished the race.

B) 99 Percent, Endurance race, 10 driver driver room, running 6th (To test :between 9-11 drivers)Thus last place points are 8pts + 6pts = 14pts, 6th place is supposed to score 12pts if the driver had finished the race.

C) 99 Percent, Endurance race, 9 driver driver room, running 4th (To test :between 9-11 drivers and demonstrate how front runners could manipulate the system)Thus last place points are 9pts + 8pts = 17pts, 4th place is supposed to score 16pts if the driver had finished the race.

D) 99 Percent, Sprint Race, 9 driver driver room, running 2nd (To test :between 9-11 drivers,demonstrate how front runners could manipulate the system, and provide a Sprint Race example)Thus last place points are 8pts + 8pts = 16pts, 2nd place is supposed to score 15pts if the driver had finished the race.

My Recommendation: A simple modified 90% rule; If a driver DC's prior to 90% completion they receive last place points. After 90% add half of the point differential. For example after 90% completion if the driver is running first in an endurance with 11 drivers the driver receives 11th place points points (7pts) + .5 (25(1st place points)-7(11th place points), 18( differential)) = 16 points. To make the equation easy to read 7 + (.5)(25-7) = 16pts

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racefan88
I'm sorry there are massive problems with this chart, the first four tests I ran failed.

A) 99 Percent, Endurance race, 12 driver driver room, running 11th (To test :A scenario where there are greater than 11 drivers in a room, thus the driver still has the rule apply despite running second to last)Thus last place points are 6pts + 4pts = 10pts, 11th place is supposed to score 7pts if the driver had finished the race.

B) 99 Percent, Endurance race, 10 driver driver room, running 6th (To test :between 9-11 drivers)Thus last place points are 8pts + 6pts = 14pts, 6th place is supposed to score 12pts if the driver had finished the race.

C) 99 Percent, Endurance race, 9 driver driver room, running 4th (To test :between 9-11 drivers and demonstrate how front runners could manipulate the system)Thus last place points are 9pts + 8pts = 17pts, 4th place is supposed to score 16pts if the driver had finished the race.

D) 99 Percent, Sprint Race, 9 driver driver room, running 2nd (To test :between 9-11 drivers,demonstrate how front runners could manipulate the system, and provide a Sprint Race example)Thus last place points are 8pts + 8pts = 16pts, 2nd place is supposed to score 15pts if the driver had finished the race.

My Recommendation: A simple modified 90% rule; If a driver DC's prior to 90% completion they receive last place points. After 90% add half of the point differential. For example after 90% completion if the driver is running first in an endurance with 11 drivers the driver receives 11th place points points (7pts) + .5 (25(1st place points)-7(11th place points), 18( differential)) = 16 points. To make the equation easy to read 7 + (.5)(25-7) = 16pts

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interesting recommendation still hard to understand though
 
CodDemon101
interesting recommendation still hard to understand though
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I mean anything beyond last place points (which is what I believe a DC should equate should be) is going to be more complex. :)

At least with my suggestion it would be impossible for someone who DCs to earn more points than if they had finished the race. I think we need to keep in mind the point of this rule is to protect points not create a system where DCs are completely eliminated. I mean when I was in Karting and the clutch broke, or I had a carb issue or whatever its not like "sympathy" points were handed out. Luck is part of racing and in my opinion it's the best part.
 
racefan88
I mean anything beyond last place points (which is what I believe a DC should equate should be) is going to be more complex. :)

At least with my suggestion it would be impossible for someone who DCs to earn more points than if they had finished the race. I think we need to keep in mind the point of this rule is to protect points not create a system where DCs are completely eliminated. I mean when I was in Karting and the clutch broke, or I had a carb issue or whatever its not like "sympathy" points were handed out. Luck is part of racing and in my opinion it's the best part.
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yea I completly agree with you. DC should receive less points then if they were to finish. DC will get last place points unless someone else Disconnected before them then they will get next spot. I dont get the next part very well can you explain it?
 
CodDemon101
yea I completly agree with you. DC should receive less points then if they were to finish. DC will get last place points unless someone else Disconnected before them then they will get next spot. I dont get the next part very well can you explain it?
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Right, I would just do exactly that give the DC driver last place points unless someone else DC'd then they get the next spot, that is what I believe is most fair and should be done. However, it seems that the series management here keeps searching for a way to give more points to a DC'd driver. (First through the suggested restart rule, next through the spreadsheet Litchi had made).

If you want to give more points to a DC'd driver it is going to be more complicated than simply saying last place, the system I am proposing does this in the easiest manner (this is my opinion of course). I would only implement this in the last 90% of the race as before that it just seems to early, but do as you wish with the distance. The formula I am proposing is [Last place points + ((1/2)(Points normally awarded for the position the DC driver was running in at the time of disconnect - last place points))] = Total points awarded

Example: You are running in 2nd in the endurance race (normally awards 20 points), in a field of 8 drivers (8th place awards 10 points), on lap 27 of 30 (27/30=90%) when you disconnect. The points you receive would be calculated as 10 + ((1/2)(20-10))= 10+5= 15points. Therefore in this scenario you would receive 15 points instead of 20.

Like I said I think the most fair and reasonable option is simply last place points.
 
racefan88
Right, I would just do exactly that give the DC driver last place points unless someone else DC'd then they get the next spot, that is what I believe is most fair and should be done. However, it seems that the series management here keeps searching for a way to give more points to a DC'd driver. (First through the suggested restart rule, next through the spreadsheet Litchi had made).

If you want to give more points to a DC'd driver it is going to be more complicated than simply saying last place, the system I am proposing does this in the easiest manner (this is my opinion of course). I would only implement this in the last 90% of the race as before that it just seems to early, but do as you wish with the distance. The formula I am proposing is [Last place points + ((1/2)(Points normally awarded for the position the DC driver was running in at the time of disconnect - last place points))] = Total points awarded

Example: You are running in 2nd in the endurance race (normally awards 20 points), in a field of 8 drivers (8th place awards 10 points), on lap 27 of 30 (27/30=90%) when you disconnect. The points you receive would be calculated as 10 + ((1/2)(20-10))= 10+5= 15points. Therefore in this scenario you would receive 15 points instead of 20.

Like I said I think the most fair and reasonable option is simply last place points.
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This system is very good:) We will make it 80% however.
 
racefan88
Right, I would just do exactly that give the DC driver last place points unless someone else DC'd then they get the next spot, that is what I believe is most fair and should be done. However, it seems that the series management here keeps searching for a way to give more points to a DC'd driver. (First through the suggested restart rule, next through the spreadsheet Litchi had made).

If you want to give more points to a DC'd driver it is going to be more complicated than simply saying last place, the system I am proposing does this in the easiest manner (this is my opinion of course). I would only implement this in the last 90% of the race as before that it just seems to early, but do as you wish with the distance. The formula I am proposing is [Last place points + ((1/2)(Points normally awarded for the position the DC driver was running in at the time of disconnect - last place points))] = Total points awarded

Example: You are running in 2nd in the endurance race (normally awards 20 points), in a field of 8 drivers (8th place awards 10 points), on lap 27 of 30 (27/30=90%) when you disconnect. The points you receive would be calculated as 10 + ((1/2)(20-10))= 10+5= 15points. Therefore in this scenario you would receive 15 points instead of 20.

Like I said I think the most fair and reasonable option is simply last place points.
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what if they get lets say 3.5 pts because they dc'd in x position and would normally get 7 pts. Would you round it to 4?
 

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