Finally done it, out with the ps3, DFGT & GT6PS4 

Kenno205GTi6
I have read through all your posts guys & girls, I am always open minded with anything, nothing is going to be perfect! if it was! it would be a boring world. Nothing is real unless its real. My car is not the perfect ride but its mine & I enjoy every moment & every change I make to it. Cheers again all, I look forward to playing with some of you when I have learnt the game a bit more. The hills are alive with the sound of horse power. :-)
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If you're interested in racing online check out this subforum https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/categories/pcars-online-racing.373/ there are some raging leagues and championships & also some more laid back races like the CRAP racing group, I'm sure you'll find something that you'll enjoy & would be practically guaranteed to to have a better online experience than random public lobbies. Enjoy the ride.
 
@ONESPACE This post is written partly to address a couple of your points but also to maybe help the poster. Cheers.

I have around 200 hours in the game. I have only driven the GT3 cars 5% of the time.

My "favourites" are the Yellowbird, Group 5 monsters, Clio Cup, Formula A, Classic Lotus', Mitsubishi Evolution, Zonda R, Aston Martin DBR1/300, Radical SR8, Formula Gulf, Escorts Mark I, Caper Monterrey Stockcar (NASCAR), Mercedes CLK GT1, Caterham, BMW 1 Series M, BMW M1 Procar, BMW V12 LMR, Ford Sierra Cosworth, even the Karts are great once you get used to them. I could go on but I really do love pretty much every car in the game. You get the picture.....your post made me look at the list of cars and there wasn't a) one I haven't driven and b) one I didn't like.

For me GT6 may as well be Need For Speed now. It's been made unplayable by the generally superb handling of Project Cars. To be fair that has been coming for a while with me using the likes of Stock Car Extreme (dreadful name but great handling) on my old PC.

While there have been some bugs, they have been an annoyance only occasionally and the situation has improved hugely since launch. You learn to design the races around what you know works.

In my opinion to get the most out of it (and you do need to put time in to get the most reward) the most important things to do are.....

1 Wheel - generic ffb setup from the options menu. Do that first. A good setup varies by user and their equipment. Help on here and official site.

2 Controller settings for the same reasons as 1 (again plenty of help on here and the official site)

3 Make the gameplay option settings to your taste. There are more options in the game than any other driving game I've played.

4 Force Feed Back per car (only once 1 is done)

Once you've done all that then you can start to tune if you like to. I drive most cars with the default setup but that's only after wheel/controller setup. Tuning improves performance and something I have dabbled with a bit but get the other things how you want them first.

I use full simulation mode, with a combination of realistic driving aids (what the car has in real life) and no aids.

If no other game ever came out this would be my game until I die.

I've played many driving games over the years. Here's a selection of some of the Autosport based ones of those and where I rate them for their time. It's not every driving game I've played but gives an idea. Most have been played with a wheel at some point. I also use a controller fairly regularly although obviously prefer the wheel.

Anyway for what it's worth here's my list of how I rate other racing games.

Game Stock Car Extreme PC
Gtr2 PC
iRacing PC
RFactor PC
Geoff Crammond's Grand Prix 1-4 Amiga/PC
Forza 6 XB1
GT5/6 PS4
Forza 4 XB360
GT4 (for offline) PS2
Grid Autosport PS3
NFS Shift 2 PS3
Dirt 2/3
Grid
Grid 2

Sorry never played Toca. Somehow it passed me by as I was never aware of it until later.
Assetta Corsa and Race Room Real Experience won't run on my PC :( but AC will be mine once it's out on PS4.

Having a regular core group of racers helps with online racing. Have a look at us (CRAP pCARS - mentioned earlier) or one of the other groups. You'll find plenty of help and racing in one of them.
 
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:bowdown:I'm almost speechless. Just kidding man. Nice post.

I've got one hell of a list too. I've always raced with a core of good racers. Been doing this online since 2006. But hey didn't a lot of people start in 1996, with Grand Tourismo. I hate high speed ring with a passion, lol. Had to put that in there, sorry.

I wouldn't be on Gtplanet if Grid Autosport, didn't ruin our website. Everybody left, lol, to go run that arcade game. But hey to each their own. Anyway GTPLANET is a much better site then what we had.

Project Cars is a real good damn game with bugs, oh well I'm over it. And now I know that the default setup mode side of the game is garbage.
The tuning side of the game works just fine and I like it. I mean the game is really good. But it's no fun for people who don't have time for tuning and such. Because default mode sucks.

I'd have a bunch of hours on Pcars too, but I cracked the rim on my T500 playing GT6. And that's because SMS delayed the launch date like 6 months. Also took a month off to move across country. I was all set to race Pcars in 2014. Yes I'm hard on wheels. My wheel list is almost as long as my game list, lol.
I got like 70 hours now, but deleted the game 3 times to figure some bugs out, or I'd probably be around 150 hours.

But in a nut shell, the game is a good. SMS just didn't care about the non tuning guys. (default setup)
 
JohnScoonsBeard
@ONESPACE This post is written partly to address a couple of your points but also to maybe help the poster. Cheers.

I have around 200 hours in the game. I have only driven the GT3 cars 5% of the time.

My "favourites" are the Yellowbird, Group 5 monsters, Clio Cup, Formula A, Classic Lotus', Mitsubishi Evolution, Zonda R, Aston Martin DBR1/300, Radical SR8, Formula Gulf, Escorts Mark I, Caper Monterrey Stockcar (NASCAR), Mercedes CLK GT1, Caterham, BMW 1 Series M, BMW M1 Procar, BMW V12 LMR, Ford Sierra Cosworth, even the Karts are great once you get used to them. I could go on but I really do love pretty much every car in the game. You get the picture.....your post made me look at the list of cars and there wasn't a) one I haven't driven and b) one I didn't like.

For me GT6 may as well be Need For Speed now. It's been made unplayable by the generally superb handling of Project Cars. To be fair that has been coming for a while with me using the likes of Stock Car Extreme (dreadful name but great handling) on my old PC.

While there have been some bugs, they have been an annoyance only occasionally and the situation has improved hugely since launch. You learn to design the races around what you know works.

In my opinion to get the most out of it (and you do need to put time in to get the most reward) the most important things to do are.....

1 Wheel - generic ffb setup from the options menu. Do that first. A good setup varies by user and their equipment. Help on here and official site.

2 Controller settings for the same reasons as 1 (again plenty of help on here and the official site)

3 Make the gameplay option settings to your taste. There are more options in the game than any other driving game I've played.

4 Force Feed Back per car (only once 1 is done)

Once you've done all that then you can start to tune if you like to. I drive most cars with the default setup but that's only after wheel/controller setup. Tuning improves performance and something I have dabbled with a bit but get the other things how you want them first.

I use full simulation mode, with a combination of realistic driving aids (what the car has in real life) and no aids.

If no other game ever came out this would be my game until I die.

I've played many driving games over the years. Here's a selection of some of the Autosport based ones of those and where I rate them for their time. It's not every driving game I've played but gives an idea. Most have been played with a wheel at some point. I also use a controller fairly regularly although obviously prefer the wheel.

Anyway for what it's worth here's my list of how I rate other racing games.

Game Stock Car Extreme PC
Gtr2 PC
iRacing PC
RFactor PC
Geoff Crammond's Grand Prix 1-4 Amiga/PC
Forza 6 XB1
GT5/6 PS4
Forza 4 XB360
GT4 (for offline) PS2
Grid Autosport PS3
NFS Shift 2 PS3
Dirt 2/3
Grid
Grid 2

Sorry never played Toca. Somehow it passed me by as I was never aware of it until later.
Assetta Corsa and Race Room Real Experience won't run on my PC :( but AC will be mine once it's out on PS4.

Having a regular core group of racers helps with online racing. Have a look at us (CRAP pCARS - mentioned earlier) or one of the other groups. You'll find plenty of help and racing in one of them.
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i am in the same league as John, but i did not screw around with the default settings,. i only adjusted it to controller type 2 or 3,... and i put the ffb a bit down around 50 %. ( i have a t300, played over 300 hours)
This just feels awesome to me, i feel everything curbs jumps sliding etc...

only thing getting used too is a bit of tuning, i am not good with it, but because we drive so many different cars we all have some special cars we are good with!!

and what John says, if there would only be 1 game that i could play in my whole life, this would be it!!!!!

and i also play every racing game out there i can play,.. (i think i have over 50 racing games in my collection)
 
Here's someone I race with online, over 600 hours. And he rarely does default setup. We ran a Formula A, 28 lap race at Spa with default setup and no weather slots, why, because weather slots just don't work properly in default setup. But I'm sure all you experienced guys know this right. Or you just like to agree to disagree.

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ONESPACE
Here's someone I race with online, over 600 hours. And he rarely does default setup. We ran a Formula A, 28 lap race at Spa with default setup and no weather slots, why, because weather slots just don't work properly in default setup. But I'm sure all you experienced guys know this right. Or you just like to agree to disagree.

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Ok,what's 600 hrs have to do with it?
 
killerjimbag
Ok,what's 600 hrs have to do with it?
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I'm more impressed that 50% of his time is spent Qualifying. Though, to an extent, I get it if the game counts the full Qualy time every round and you run relatively short races.
But, either way, that's the number that stuck out to me as odd.
 
killerjimbag
Ok,what's 600 hrs have to do with it?
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Guess for you it's ok for others to talk about their 150, 200, and 300 hours in this thread. But if I post about someone's 600 hours, it's a problem? Maybe I just don't understand your reply.
 
ONESPACE
Guess for you it's ok for others to talk about their 150, 200, and 300 hours in this thread. But if I post about someone's 600 hours, it's a problem? Maybe I just don't understand your reply.
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Bro why do you go from being OK with something one day,then off on a tangent the next day? Let the person with the 600 hours post "their" thoughts. If you know weather slots don't work then why race it? Go to the SMS site and post your thoughts there. We can't fix tires,weather,glitches,whatever else is wrong. Didn't Johnny post the epic whining and crying thread?
 
killerjimbag
Bro why do you go from being OK with something one day,then off on a tangent the next day? Let the person with the 600 hours post "their" thoughts. If you know weather slots don't work then why race it? Go to the SMS site and post your thoughts there. We can't fix tires,weather,glitches,whatever else is wrong. Didn't Johnny post the epic whining and crying thread?
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Ok, I'll buy the beer and lunch.
 

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