First Drift vid.*Progress from beginning, captured in 3 vids.*

[G-T-4-Fan]

Since I have already posted 3 vids. now, I think this might be an usefull learning thread. The whole thread is full of tips that are all about these three vids. at least now, since it first was the thread of "My first GT3 drift vid.". Hope it an be usefull for beginners, and beginners: trust me it's not THAT difficult to learn. The first vid. was posted about three days after I had started with my FIRST DRIFT EVER!!! the second about one day later, this time with a Nissan Silvia instead of an overpowered Supra, and the third is just an average vid. that I just HAD to take cause I wanted to show my progress. If beginners can't do like in the first vid. I can tell you, the first two drifts were for me like my best drifts to then, and the third I just took for an update with an average lap. Make sure you say to me when one vid. isn't working, it probably needs another time to download at s31.yousendit.com because it works for about a week.
Enjoy it, and for the starters.....well........START PRACTICING!!!
http://s20.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0HMDEB1GPATB51ELGVBM96W0WX
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Second vid.: http://s31.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1FT1DGREHW84X236SGZIA59EML
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Third vid.:http://s31.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1O031ULEAHEV20GGDJR0OPVXJS

Note: THIS IS THE BADEST QUALITY EVER SEND, SO PREPARE, AND I'VE TRIED TO RECORD THE REPLAY WITHOUT THE ANNNOYING MUSIC IN THE FIST VID. BUT WHEN I STARTED TO RECORD, IT JUST WAS THERE, SO ONLY LOOK AT THE DRIFTING, and if someone wants to edit this and get the annoying music off, I really appreciate it

Edit: The link works now, try it. And again, it's just NO quality vid. only the drifting that counts!!!

 

[nk4e]

.Mp4 is a new format for me

 

[SpeedZoner-T]

.Mp4 is a new format for me

You can watch it with VLC Player
Atleast, i were able to

For the vid, im newbie on drifitng myself but its pretty nice and i dont think that the quality is so bad Just keep on Drfiting 👍

 

[RX-7_FC_DrIfteR]

Downloading....

[edit]

Hey well its seems you got the right idea, on how to enter a turn and throttle control, your on the right track.

Here's something you should work on. You enter the turn late: easy fix. You don't lose traction till you already in the turn: You could be a speed drifter, but if not, work on proper over steer times. Lower the HP on your car to stock. Then go back out on the track: this will help your skill ingress even more. Also help you understand how your car reacts to different situations, and help you push the limits.

Thanks all I can think of right now. Keep up the good work. Looking forward to your next video.

 

[G-T-4-Fan]

.Mp4 is a new format for me

I play it with "quicktime player" but I don't have a microsoft computer or so, I use macintosh so I don't know if quicktime also is in a microsoft version

And thanks for the drifting SpeedZoner-T, but when it comes to the quality well......I think I will get comment soon on that but that doesn't matter or insults me caus I KNOW it's bad quality, but thanks again

 

[G-T-4-Fan]

Downloading....

Prepare yourself.............and I've send you a PM but that doesn't matter anymore so............enjoy it as much as you can...............well as much as you will be able to

 

[G-T-4-Fan]

Does anyone else have some usefull comment, I'd like to hear some opinions........

 

[Swift]

Listen to RX7drifter, start getting sideways earlier and slow down a bit. And feint. Feint is good. Infact, if you time it right, feinting is all you have to do to get the car sideways. Then it's just a matter of countersteer and throttle control.

There is something that all new drifters need to realize. Drifting is like playing an instrument. There are certain basics that MUST be learned. Throttle control, Countersteer, weight shifting etc. But once you understand the fundamentals, that's when you you can create your own style. This is why two people can play the same guitar, for the same song and sound different. It's about style, but they learned the basics BEFORE they tried to get all "jiggy" wit it. heh heh.

 

[G-T-4-Fan]

Listen to RX7drifter, start getting sideways earlier and slow down a bit. And feint. Feint is good. Infact, if you time it right, feinting is all you have to do to get the car sideways. Then it's just a matter of countersteer and throttle control.

There is something that all new drifters need to realize. Drifting is like playing and instrument. There are certain basics that MUST be learned. Throttle control, Countersteer, weight shifting etc. But once you understand the fundamentals, that's when you you can create your own style. This is why two people can play the same guitar, for the same song and sound different. It's about style, but they learned the basics BEFORE they tried to get all "jiggy" wit it. heh heh.

Well........honestly..............that's about the MAJOR problem: I can't time feinting AT ALL
I keep trying but I think I don't really know when I timed well, caus I don't get any results in either case, weither I timed well or not. If I could understand what REALLY feinting is, I think that would be helpfull. Although I have come into a drift with feinting with my Silvia, the problem there was that I didn't end up in a good line after the "swinging" part, as a result it took a long time before the drift started so I ended up crashing into the inside of the corner 👎 👎 Any tips or suggestions on how feinting actually works after and during the so called "swinging" part??

 

[G-T-4-Fan]

Downloading....

[edit]

Hey well its seems you got the right idea, on how to enter a turn and throttle control, your on the right track.

Here's something you should work on. You enter the turn late: easy fix. You don't lose traction till you already in the turn: You could be a speed drifter, but if not, work on proper over steer times. Lower the HP on your car to stock. Then go back out on the track: this will help your skill ingress even more. Also help you understand how your car reacts to different situations, and help you push the limits.

Thanks all I can think of right now. Keep up the good work. Looking forward to your next video.

Thanks for the tips, also thanks to swift offcourse, I think I really need those tips in "the early stage of drifting" About the HP I lowered it to 300 or something, lower I can't do, I think. I thought EXACTLY the same thing if it comes to the entry and when I begin to drift. I'm gonna search for a feinting manual: if there is one. Cause I really don't understand it:tup:

 

[Swift]

Well........honestly..............that's about the MAJOR problem: I can't time feinting AT ALL
I keep trying but I think I don't really know when I timed well, caus I don't get any results in either case, weither I timed well or not. If I could understand what REALLY feinting is, I think that would be helpfull. Although I have come into a drift with feinting with my Silvia, the problem there was that I didn't end up in a good line after the "swinging" part, as a result it took a long time before the drift started so I ended up crashing into the inside of the corner 👎 👎 Any tips or suggestions on how feinting actually works after and during the so called "swinging" part??

Check out this vid. DR put it together a while ago about feinting.

Feinting Vid

 

[G-T-4-Fan]

Check out this vid. DR put it together a while ago about feinting.

Feinting Vid

THANKS, I REALLY appreciate all the help I get to learn drifting generally, that means in all forums here in the GT3 Drifting part. I'll watch the vid. and when I've learned the basics.......maybe I'll send a video again, although my previous and presumably the second are only available for 7 days MAKE SURE YOU'VE DOWNLOADED THEM BEFORE THEY GET CLOSED!!! Not that they'll be THAT good. REALLY THANKS ANYWAY!!!!

 

[G-T-4-Fan]

Now I'm getting REALLY frustrated out here. It's half past 10 in the evening here and I've been practicing since half past 7!!! All for feinting, well it seems almost impossible, has anyone got settings ESCPECIALLY for feinting?? Maybe I'm gonna have to wait untill I've got that DFP. It just seems MISSION IMPOSSIBLE 3, no guys I'm serious, is this getting easier or even more impossible with the DFP?? Cause otherwise it's gonna be................... ...........MISSION IMPOSSIBLE 4

I really don't know if I have an advantage for starting to drift with my DS2 like the vid. or that I'm not doing well cause I just can't feint!!!!!
Secretly I'm hoping that when I've got my DFP, I feint like HEAVEN in GT3 and GT4, better than anyone.................WHoooooOOOOO that's sounds like:nooooooo:.........................MISSION >>>TOTALLY<<< IMPOSSIBLE 65247839.........and a WANNABE GOOD IN DRIFTING 👎

Edit: I'm just going.......WWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA 💡 .............. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[SpeedZoner-T]

WOW! TAKE IT EASY MAN!!

I think that Feint isnt anything easy, atleast for me. so youve been practising what, 3hours now? Or from 7AM to 10PM? anyho, it will take time as everything does I've been practising Feint for a month now and i still cant nail even 1 corner HALF-decently... Just chill, take it easy, have some coffee brakes and think what you have done wrong and keep on it

Practise makes you= 👍
and even MORE practise makes you= 👍 👍
So whats the key to succesful drifting? *Insert voice here: everyone at GTP drift forum shouting "PRACTISE!!!"*
Exactly

 

[G-T-4-Fan]

WOW! TAKE IT EASY MAN!!

I think that Feint isnt anything easy, atleast for me. so youve been practising what, 3hours now? Or from 7AM to 10PM? anyho, it will take time as everything does I've been practising Feint for a month now and i still cant nail even 1 corner HALF-decently... Just chill, take it easy, have some coffee brakes and think what you have done wrong and keep on it

Practise makes you= 👍
and even MORE practise makes you= 👍 👍
So whats the key to succesful drifting? *Insert voice here: everyone at GTP drift forum shouting "PRACTISE!!!"*
Exactly

HAHA From all the posts I've send looks like I almost have a split-pesonality Anyway it's now 9 in the morning here I just woke up cause I've got a holiday, but I'll start this day totally clean and fresh, so:idea:I'm going to spend some serious "research" on feinting, sounds like fun to me. I haven't got anything else to do so.......gonna ruine my day on feinting with some hope I'll get some sort of a result at 11 in the evening. So you'll definatly hear from me today

But is this getting easier with DFP, just curious?? Or is it my settings??? Probably I just need to practice 👎 but I'll keep trying👍

 

[G-T-4-Fan]

Well another vid. of me is up:
- Nissan Silvia Aero 290HP
- tried to faint a bit
- maybe even badder quality but without music
- there is just a black bar or something appearing where the throttle control and such are:tdown:
- I used the F:censored:ING manual gearbox👍
- did the whole camera thing and converting in Mpeg-4 file on MY OWN
- still don't know what you need in total to improve this quality
- last turns on midfiels a bit 🤬 up

Heres the link: http://s31.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1FT1DGREHW84X236SGZIA59EML
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Oh manual.................YEAH:tup:👍

 

[Swift]

Well another vid. of me is up:
- Nissan Silvia Aero 290HP
- tried to faint a bit
- maybe even badder quality but without music
- there is just a black bar or something appearing where the throttle control and such are:tdown:
- I used the F:censored:ING manual gearbox👍
- did the whole camera thing and converting in Mpeg-4 file on MY OWN
- still don't know what you need in total to improve this quality
- last turns on midfiels a bit 🤬 up

Heres the link: http://s31.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1FT1DGREHW84X236SGZIA59EML
👍👍

Oh manual.................YEAH:tup:👍

Ok, well first I'd like to say that it's cool to see that you're taking what others say, applying it and then making the effort to do a vid to see how you're progressing. That's excellent.

It's hard to give you a really good assesment on this one since the steering and pedals are mostly blacked out. However, I can say that your two major challenges are as follows.

1) Your line. This is the paramount one. You're line is still throwing off your timing of otherwise very progressive technique. Try to take an out in out line as much as possible. Obviously, it's impossible to take a "perfect" racing line while drifting, but just give that a shot and that will help a lot!

2) Countersteer. You're countersteering about .25-.5 seconds too early. I know it sounds like a small amount of time and shouldn't make a difference. But it does. This is why your angles aren't getting out there(in some turns was nice though 👍 ) and why your drifts aren't as smooth as I'm sure you'd like them to be.

Ok, that's all from me for now. Get us another vid by about monday and let's see how it goes!

BTW, I did notice the feinting, keep it up!

 

[G-T-4-Fan]

Ok, well first I'd like to say that it's cool to see that you're taking what others say, applying it and then making the effort to do a vid to see how you're progressing. That's excellent.

It's hard to give you a really good assesment on this one since the steering and pedals are mostly blacked out. However, I can say that you two major challenges are as follows.

1) This is the paramount one. Your line. You're line is still throwing off your timing of otherwise very progressive technique. Try to take an out in out line as much as possible. Obviously, it's impossible to take a "perfect" racing line while drifting, but just give that a shot and that will help a lot!

2) Countersteer. You're countersteering about .25-.5 seconds too early. I know it sounds like a small amount of time and shouldn't make a difference. But it does. This is why your angles aren't getting out there(in some turns was nice though 👍 ) and why your drifts aren't as smooth as I'm sure you'd like them to be.

Ok, that's all from me for now. Get us another vid by about monday and let's see how it goes!

Yeah thanks well, in let's say the first corner of the midfield, if I try to countersteer just THAT bit later (I know it's a lot if it comes to timing) I can't get to the outer side of the end of that corner, I'm more likely to stay in the inside and most of the time I end up in the grass:tdown:. BBBUUUTTTTT offcourse I said earlier that it was almost impossible for me to go feinting, and for example manual shifting I couldn't do untill 4 years of practice (HUHU, NOT) SOO I'll try to do it as you say. :tup:Your tips are really helpfull, thanks:tup: So can you point out now wich corners are 👍 and wich are:tdown: or need improvement, cause now I can go guessing where improvement is needed, but I might scr:censored:w a right corner up

B.t.w didn't know racinglines matterd, but alright I'll work on that

Anymore comment or something like that?? 👍

 

[Swift]

I just noticed something. You're car is WAY too low! Raise that bad boy up a bit. Should at least be between 85-90mm. When it's too low, it makes it that much harder for weight transfer.

Don't worry about specific corners in which you did better or worse. Unless you are focusing on a specific technique. Turn 1 wasn't bad. You started youi feint a bit late, and that cause an early exit. But on the whole it wasn't bad. Keep working on your feint and braking timing. That's what's going to make the difference.

 

[G-T-4-Fan]

I just noticed something. You're car is WAY too low! Raise that bad boy up a bit. Should at least be between 85-90mm. When it's too low, it makes it that much harder for weight transfer.

Don't worry about specific corners in which you did better or worse. Unless you are focusing on a specific technique. Turn 1 wasn't bad. You started youi feint a bit late, and that cause an early exit. But on the whole it wasn't bad. Keep working on your feint and braking timing. That's what's going to make the difference.

Jeesszzzzz, can you see that from the vid.???!!! Well I'll do that
And if your sure the late feinting caused an early exit, well then I'll work on that too
Just didn't know you could see how low my car is on a vid. and EVEN BE SOOO SURE about it that you know where it should be, thanks again:tup:👍

 

[Swift]

Jeesszzzzz, can you see that from the vid.???!!! Well I'll do that
And if your sure the late feinting caused an early exit, well then I'll work on that too
Just didn't know you could see how low my car is on a vid. and EVEN BE SOOO SURE about it that you know where it should be, thanks again:tup:👍

Please don't take the Lords's name in vain. Thanks!

I said the same thing when my teamates at IDM saw that my S13 needed to have weight reduction! I thought, "How can you tell that from a vid?" But yeah, GT3's replays are accurate enough to tell things like that once you get looking at them enough.

OK, as far as the feinting goes. This goes back to the line. you want to start wide, basically cut throught the middle and come out wide at the end. Just like racing. So in corner one. You want to initiate the drift from he far left(almost touching the rumble strip), get to the desired angle as quickly as possible, hold it to the exit of the corner, then dial out of coutner steer. Looking at your vid again, you're as wide as you need to be on exit and the entry really isn't bad, but since your countersteer is so early and angle fairly minimal, it messes with the original line. Bringing you out of the drift early.

I find that same corner on Midfield II to be more challenging because the entrance is much more tricky and forces your to have a clean line or yoiu end up in the wall or the grass. Period.

Anyway, your certainly improving!

 

[RX-7_FC_DrIfteR]

Second vid.: http://s31.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1FT1DGREHW84X236SGZIA59EML
👍👍

Note: THIS IS THE BADEST QUALITY EVER SEND, SO PREPARE, AND I'VE TRIED TO RECORD THE REPLAY WITHOUT THE ANNNOYING MUSIC, BUT WHEN I STARTED TO RECORD, IT JUST WAS THERE, SO ONLY LOOK AT THE DRIFTING, and if someone wants to edit this and get the annoying music off, I really appreciate it

Edit: The link works now, try it. And again, it's just NO quality vid. only the drifting that counts!!!

I'll do it for you, give like 10mins [edit] Why is it in quicktime format??

 

[G-T-4-Fan]

I'll do it for you, give like 10mins [edit] Why is it in quicktime format??

THANKS. Well as you might know I use apple/macintosh, and a programm I have to use to compress, or something, the vid. it atomatically opens up quick-time to use it during the compressing. I think this is why, I shall ask my parents again why this is this way, but I think this is the reason

 

[G-T-4-Fan]

Please don't take the Lords's name in vain. Thanks!

I said the same thing when my teamates at IDM saw that my S13 needed to have weight reduction! I thought, "How can you tell that from a vid?" But yeah, GT3's replays are accurate enough to tell things like that once you get looking at them enough.

OK, as far as the feinting goes. This goes back to the line. you want to start wide, basically cut throught the middle and come out wide at the end. Just like racing. So in corner one. You want to initiate the drift from he far left(almost touching the rumble strip), get to the desired angle as quickly as possible, hold it to the exit of the corner, then dial out of coutner steer. Looking at your vid again, you're as wide as you need to be on exit and the entry really isn't bad, but since your countersteer is so early and angle fairly minimal, it messes with the original line. Bringing you out of the drift early.

I find that same corner on Midfield II to be more challenging because the entrance is much more tricky and forces your to have a clean line or yoiu end up in the wall or the grass. Period.

Anyway, your certainly improving!

Sorry for using that word, it was not meant to be swearing more like being amazed by the fact you can actually see that.
As for monday, maybe it needs some more time (maybe less but...) cause I think this is no real simple learning issue, it sounds like it's more of a feel you must get for it, although the whole drifting thing is about feeling the limits of the car, it might take a while. And if you want to know my further progress at other tracks, well appricot hill is a circuit I just CAN'T do the first long corner followed by that almost 90 degrees corner, I can't take them WHATSOEVER in one drift, although I see many succeed in that.
But I understand I'm still making process enough, I just hold it to Midfield:tup:, and try to post my next vid. monday:tup:👍

 

[RX-7_FC_DrIfteR]

Eek haveing probleams finding a decent copnverter. Sorry man.

 

[G-T-4-Fan]

Eek haveing probleams finding a decent copnverter. Sorry man.

Well thanks for trying, doesn't matter. Whatt do you think of the second video, or simpler: anymore tips??

 

[RX-7 FD Drifter]

nice so far, but I like that your doing what FC and Swift has been telling you and applying them. I would say something but they beat me to it. 👍

 

[G-T-4-Fan]

nice so far, but I like that your doing what FC and Swift has been telling you and applying them. I would say something but they beat me to it. 👍

Well I really want to listen carefully, cause Swift is of IDM and RX-7_FC_DrIfteR and you are from.......Phantom D?? Well I hope to be as good as you guys are someday. Must be pretty fun to be some sort of an example And join some sort of drifting group!!! THAT sounds really fun
👍

AND since I'm doing pretty well on the ideal lines (hardest is to get al the way outside again) and trying to drift in JUST a bit more angle, I might be able to send my next vid. EVEN TOMORROW!!! The little increase in height b.t.w. helps VERY good in trying to "link" two opposite corners after each other, escpecially the last midfield corners link up pretty well now......See you tomorrow:tup:

 

[G-T-4-Fan]

Well, it's not going as good as I thought now, I began this morning like crap offcourse, but the last corner on Midfield: I can't get it right anymore and I can not get any turn in a visible improved angle, if I do however I can't get the right speed or angle to exit that particular corner:tdown:.

Take the long 180 degree turn on Midfield that goes under a tunnel thrue to the next long 180 degree in opposite direction, you know. If I want to follow the racing line a bit, I shouldn't enter this corner in the middle, but on the outside, simple. Problem however is that I won't line/drift up good anymore for the next 180 degree:tdown: cause I'll exit to early, wich causes that I can't feint properly into that second one 👎

Another problem with the angle; if I want increase the angle a little bit, it causes me to: 1. end up in the railing
2. I'll spin out of control
3. I get my angle too great so that I can't exit the corner, and end up stopping sideways, with the "nose" of the car against the railing

Are you guys SURE that I must try to increase my angle???
:ideatherwise give me some advice or tips about this, I think, very common irritating problem

 

[Swift]

Well, it's not going as good as I thought now, I began this morning like crap offcourse, but the last corner on Midfield: I can't get it right anymore and I can not get any turn in a visible improved angle, if I do however I can't get the right speed or angle to exit that particular corner:tdown:.

Take the long 180 degree turn on Midfield that goes under a tunnel thrue to the next long 180 degree in opposite direction, you know. If I want to follow the racing line a bit, I shouldn't enter this corner in the middle, but on the outside, simple. Problem however is that I won't line/drift up good anymore for the next 180 degree:tdown: cause I'll exit to early, wich causes that I can't feint properly into that second one 👎

Another problem with the angle; if I want increase the angle a little bit, it causes me to: 1. end up in the railing
2. I'll spin out of control
3. I get my angle too great so that I can't exit the corner, and end up stopping sideways, with the "nose" of the car against the railing

Are you guys SURE that I must try to increase my angle???
:ideatherwise give me some advice or tips about this, I think, very common irritating problem

Don't worry about increasing angle right now. Worry about line and smoothness. Period. Angle will come as an almost side product of a smooth drift with a good line.

So, it's LINE and SMOOTHNESS. Worry about nothing else for now.