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Group D Test Results
Test method :
Tests were done using :
I gave each car 5 nonstop lap at each track
trackripper123 RUF RGT ’00
Autumn Ring 1:22.543
One of the best car I have driven at Autumn Ring, the car handles so well. I kept pushing hard, rarely the car would understeer on exits, the brakes worked so nice, even without ABS. I have one of the best 1st sector time at 28.056 seconds with this car. In my 5 lap run, not even once I went sideways. Gearing is evenly spaced, steering is responsive, the car shines on the s bends, lots of speed there. Great job.
High Speed Ring Reverse 1:12.146
The Ruf surprised me yet again, the car is very stable on high speed long curves, able to maintain speed with ease. The s bend can be taken with lots of speed, and it hardly exhibits any over or under steer. The only concern I have is the rather short 6th gear, I hit the rev limit on the straight reaching 160 mph for only a split second.
Drivers Choice Points: 8.5 out of 10
Jtqmopar Pontiac GTO 5.7 Coupe ’04
Autumn Ring 1:24.637
The car has potential to do better with only BB changes, it is well balanced with slight understeer when pushed hard out of a corner. The big drawback is lack of acceleration, even with such a short gearing. On some corners, 3rd or 4th gear can be used, as the 3rd felt too short, this is also the only car I have driven that use the 6th gear on the main straight. Braking is also one of it's weakness, not enough bite and I have some instability even when braking straight due to the default 5/5 BB used. The car almost never went oversteer except when braking hard, which is quite nice for an FR. ABS drivers should have less issue and have better time, maybe high 1:23, as my best lap has at least 2 heavy braking slides ( 1st corner and right hairpin after 2nd straight )
High Speed Ring Reverse 1:15.068
The short gearing really hurt this car, if only it has better spaced gearing, the Pontiac would have 1:14 easily. The car tops at a measly 147 mph on the main straight, stability on the 1st corner is not bad either, able to hold at least 123 mph with a smooth entry. Braking for the S bend is a hit and miss, most of my time lost in this section, 1:14.xxx definitely achievable.
Drivers Choice Points: 6 out of 10
HaoleHatingWRX Subaru Impreza STi ’10
Autumn Ring 1:23.104
I've never driven WRX that is as nimble as this, it weaves through the slalom and the chicane after the loop with brilliant accuracy. The suspension is quite stiff, it easily jumps and unsettled when riding over the rumble strip. 1st to 3rd gear acceleration is exceptional, but from 4th onwards, the acceleration is getting worse due to the heavy weight. This weight issue also affect the braking, I find the brake not up to the task, a higher brake number would do better. Mild understeer appears unexpected at times, sometimes I can push it hard out of a corner with no issue, other times it goes wide. Overall, a nice car to drive around the twisty bits. With more laps, I believe this car could easily do low 1:22 as my best time has so many room for improvement.
High Speed Ring Reverse 1:14.087
The WRX response very well when turning on the S bend and the right curve after the bridge, the only flaw this car has is the weight and a lack of acceleration on 5th and 6th gear even with the already short ratio. Top speed barely goes over 152 mph, the 2nd lowest I have encountered in the tests. The WRX also seems a bit unpredictable when entering high speed sweeping curve ( 1st corner ), I have to use some left foot braking to adjust speed smoothly, otherwise the car would loose to much speed or unable to turn smoothly - this is maybe just me.
Drivers Choice Points: 7 out of 10
Ugabugaz Lamborghini Miura P400 Bertone ’67
Autumn Ring 1:22.607
The time says it all, the beauty of perfection, the Miura gives me so much pleasure, the car point wherever you want it, the slalom is a joy to drive over, the loop is so easy to travel, point and squirt, even when the tires started pushed too hard, it will slide with finesse. Braking is almost perfect, a bit unstable at the rear, just a tiny more bite, it will be just right. I still can't believe how fast this car is, obviously 1:21 time is within reach.
High Speed Ring Reverse 1:11.752
The only car I have tested that still has great acceleration even on 5th gear, the Miura has tremendous speed topping at 162 mph on the main straight, maintaining high speed even when I enter a bit wide on the S bend. Braking after the tunnel is a bit tricky as the brake strength is severely lacking to my preference. My best run here has the 2nd sector at 39.xxx, another 0.1 second alone could be had on the 1st sector, a low 1:11.xxx is within range.
Drivers Choice Points: 9 out of 10
Digitalbaka Toyota FT-86 G Sports Concept ’10
Autumn Ring 1:23.708
How can I put this ... the FT86 handles well, but more often than not it goes wide when on corner exits. The rear tires grips like a glue, a rarity for an FR, but the front grip easily diminished when going full on exiting a turn. I have to be very careful with the throttle, especially during the slalom, the right curve, right hairpin and the loop. Acceleration wise, this car is great, able top reach 120mph+ before 1st corner, but the braking need more bite and it has too much rear bias which makes trail braking a real challenge. Overall, with a looser rear and nimble front ( less understeer ), this would be a perfect FR. The time could also be improved, 1:22 or lower with a perfect run, my 1:23.708 has quite a few corners with understeer, 1st corner slide and only 28.680 1st sector.
High Speed Ring Reverse 1:13.374
FT86 feels at home in this track, great speed and acceleration, able to hold 124 mph at the 1st turn and tops at 157 mph, the only trouble I have is braking after the tunnel, the car tends to lose rear balance and goes wide, hurting the lap time significantly, my guess with a smooth section here, 1:12 is easily achievable. Nice car overall.
Drivers Choice Points: 7 out of 10
Test method :
Tests were done using :
stick controller,
manual transmission,
no ABS and all other aids off
Grip = real
Steering sensitivity = 0
manual transmission,
no ABS and all other aids off
Grip = real
Steering sensitivity = 0
I gave each car 5 nonstop lap at each track
trackripper123 RUF RGT ’00
Autumn Ring 1:22.543
One of the best car I have driven at Autumn Ring, the car handles so well. I kept pushing hard, rarely the car would understeer on exits, the brakes worked so nice, even without ABS. I have one of the best 1st sector time at 28.056 seconds with this car. In my 5 lap run, not even once I went sideways. Gearing is evenly spaced, steering is responsive, the car shines on the s bends, lots of speed there. Great job.
High Speed Ring Reverse 1:12.146
The Ruf surprised me yet again, the car is very stable on high speed long curves, able to maintain speed with ease. The s bend can be taken with lots of speed, and it hardly exhibits any over or under steer. The only concern I have is the rather short 6th gear, I hit the rev limit on the straight reaching 160 mph for only a split second.
Drivers Choice Points: 8.5 out of 10
Jtqmopar Pontiac GTO 5.7 Coupe ’04
Autumn Ring 1:24.637
The car has potential to do better with only BB changes, it is well balanced with slight understeer when pushed hard out of a corner. The big drawback is lack of acceleration, even with such a short gearing. On some corners, 3rd or 4th gear can be used, as the 3rd felt too short, this is also the only car I have driven that use the 6th gear on the main straight. Braking is also one of it's weakness, not enough bite and I have some instability even when braking straight due to the default 5/5 BB used. The car almost never went oversteer except when braking hard, which is quite nice for an FR. ABS drivers should have less issue and have better time, maybe high 1:23, as my best lap has at least 2 heavy braking slides ( 1st corner and right hairpin after 2nd straight )
High Speed Ring Reverse 1:15.068
The short gearing really hurt this car, if only it has better spaced gearing, the Pontiac would have 1:14 easily. The car tops at a measly 147 mph on the main straight, stability on the 1st corner is not bad either, able to hold at least 123 mph with a smooth entry. Braking for the S bend is a hit and miss, most of my time lost in this section, 1:14.xxx definitely achievable.
Drivers Choice Points: 6 out of 10
HaoleHatingWRX Subaru Impreza STi ’10
Autumn Ring 1:23.104
I've never driven WRX that is as nimble as this, it weaves through the slalom and the chicane after the loop with brilliant accuracy. The suspension is quite stiff, it easily jumps and unsettled when riding over the rumble strip. 1st to 3rd gear acceleration is exceptional, but from 4th onwards, the acceleration is getting worse due to the heavy weight. This weight issue also affect the braking, I find the brake not up to the task, a higher brake number would do better. Mild understeer appears unexpected at times, sometimes I can push it hard out of a corner with no issue, other times it goes wide. Overall, a nice car to drive around the twisty bits. With more laps, I believe this car could easily do low 1:22 as my best time has so many room for improvement.
High Speed Ring Reverse 1:14.087
The WRX response very well when turning on the S bend and the right curve after the bridge, the only flaw this car has is the weight and a lack of acceleration on 5th and 6th gear even with the already short ratio. Top speed barely goes over 152 mph, the 2nd lowest I have encountered in the tests. The WRX also seems a bit unpredictable when entering high speed sweeping curve ( 1st corner ), I have to use some left foot braking to adjust speed smoothly, otherwise the car would loose to much speed or unable to turn smoothly - this is maybe just me.
Drivers Choice Points: 7 out of 10
Ugabugaz Lamborghini Miura P400 Bertone ’67
Autumn Ring 1:22.607
The time says it all, the beauty of perfection, the Miura gives me so much pleasure, the car point wherever you want it, the slalom is a joy to drive over, the loop is so easy to travel, point and squirt, even when the tires started pushed too hard, it will slide with finesse. Braking is almost perfect, a bit unstable at the rear, just a tiny more bite, it will be just right. I still can't believe how fast this car is, obviously 1:21 time is within reach.
High Speed Ring Reverse 1:11.752
The only car I have tested that still has great acceleration even on 5th gear, the Miura has tremendous speed topping at 162 mph on the main straight, maintaining high speed even when I enter a bit wide on the S bend. Braking after the tunnel is a bit tricky as the brake strength is severely lacking to my preference. My best run here has the 2nd sector at 39.xxx, another 0.1 second alone could be had on the 1st sector, a low 1:11.xxx is within range.
Drivers Choice Points: 9 out of 10
Digitalbaka Toyota FT-86 G Sports Concept ’10
Autumn Ring 1:23.708
How can I put this ... the FT86 handles well, but more often than not it goes wide when on corner exits. The rear tires grips like a glue, a rarity for an FR, but the front grip easily diminished when going full on exiting a turn. I have to be very careful with the throttle, especially during the slalom, the right curve, right hairpin and the loop. Acceleration wise, this car is great, able top reach 120mph+ before 1st corner, but the braking need more bite and it has too much rear bias which makes trail braking a real challenge. Overall, with a looser rear and nimble front ( less understeer ), this would be a perfect FR. The time could also be improved, 1:22 or lower with a perfect run, my 1:23.708 has quite a few corners with understeer, 1st corner slide and only 28.680 1st sector.
High Speed Ring Reverse 1:13.374
FT86 feels at home in this track, great speed and acceleration, able to hold 124 mph at the 1st turn and tops at 157 mph, the only trouble I have is braking after the tunnel, the car tends to lose rear balance and goes wide, hurting the lap time significantly, my guess with a smooth section here, 1:12 is easily achievable. Nice car overall.
Drivers Choice Points: 7 out of 10
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Hmm…the time's not too bad, I think it's around 0.3 off what my fastest was.
. In my prior experience with the Countach I've found it to be an extraordinarily fast car for its PP range. I've spanked so many other cars on the Nordschleife by using my Countach. Not only does it handle very well but it's also great in a strait line. It just isn't fair sometimes. My Countach tune can be found 
