Upon purchasing GT6 I was extremely annoyed at the new version of rabbit chasing (rabbit goes fast, tires out, but maintains pace once passed). I'm not the type of person to go on a forum and complain for things to be fixed until they are, and instead recognize that this can still be a very entertaining game, especially compared to the current competition on ps3 (lol). Turn all aids to off (ABS: 1 for us poor folk with ds3), turn all HUD options off including driving lines, only play premiums with visible tachometers. Instead of worrying 100% about first place and 3 stars and credits, learn to really enjoy and understand the car and track that you drive. This change to my play style has not only made laps more difficult, but has created a much more immersed and interesting playing environment.
For those bored and unsatisfied with AI/Difficulty/Etc...
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- Stanton, California
- aphan111
The AI is ridiculously easy in this game, so I would try to simulate it exactly like IRL, so I have been doing what you did. Changed my experience completely, made me feel more like when I was tracking, especially in the cheaper ones, you have to remember what gear you were in and learn the speeds of the corners. I became very immersed in it!
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- 847
- Ohio
- ecko_driver81
So... hotlapping over racing then. Save the redbull junior races, all other events in GT6 are a trackday at best.
What about those of us who'd like to work on our racecraft on our own time? Even the redbull junior races have major problems. Put Sports Hards on your machine, and there will still be certain places on all tracks where the A.I. all brake too early, lap after lap, allowing you to blow by three of them with ease. Grand Valley, turn 1 comes to mind...
What about those of us who'd like to work on our racecraft on our own time? Even the redbull junior races have major problems. Put Sports Hards on your machine, and there will still be certain places on all tracks where the A.I. all brake too early, lap after lap, allowing you to blow by three of them with ease. Grand Valley, turn 1 comes to mind...
- 5,284
- Sick_Cylinder
For a bit more immersion skip the paddle shifters and use H pattern shifter then turn your tactile transducers / bass shakers up to maximum!
Try the Red Bull Junior on comfort softs - it's lovely and then laps at a realistic pace.
Try the Red Bull Junior on comfort softs - it's lovely and then laps at a realistic pace.
- 1,029
- Wales
- EMY-Welsh-Fury
Been repeating the S-Class events with progressively slower and slower cars.
- 165
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- covan2306
I just ran Ascari 10 lap with HUD/assists OFF, was superb, better game than usual other than 1 thing, GT-R black edition's gas gauge does not work... so on lap 5 when I got a 3 second penalty I laughed and put controller down thinking I was out of gas, then after 15 or so seconds realized I hadn't been kicked, picked controller and blaw balw
- 28,470
- Windsor, Ontario, Canada
- Johnnypenso
I see. Ignore the racing aspect of a game almost entirely based around racing, ignore the fact that after 15 years PD still can't make competitive AI in Career Mode, ignore winning and earning stars (the goal of all racing) and just enjoy the cars you are driving. Silly me, I thought we were supposed to be able to do all those things at the same time.
- 4,741
- Bogota,Colombia
- GTP_ARP93
I mean, it's not like we finally have an AI that could give a decent battle with a couple of slight tweaks and wouldn't need the absurdely stupid rubberbanding system if we were allowed to run qualifying laps and have a proper gridstart.
Silly us, not silly PoDi!
- 1,762
- London
- haroldinho41
Oh ok then, let's just not play the game and moan about it instead, that's a much better idea. How can you be scrutinizing somebody for making the most of the game they've bought?
Your arguments have been duly (wearily noted), but they don't need to be written on every review thread on the forum.
- 28,470
- Windsor, Ontario, Canada
- Johnnypenso
He made the most of the leading console racing sim in the world by ignoring the fact that it's a racing game and all about racing and that he's in races, and his advice is just to enjoy driving and not worry about racing. And you're chastising @CarBastard and I for responding to that? Wouldn't that be kind of like someone saying,
"I know that firefights in COD12 are meaningless because the enemy just stands up in the tall grass and waits 5 seconds before he shoots at you then misses with at least his first 15 rounds, but just enjoy the guns and walking around and stuff because it's so cool"
Really?
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- Raymond Terrace
- Jase_McMillan
I would highly recommend using much lower tires than any given race suggests ( eg. comfort softs instead of sports softs ) in order to make things much more enjoyable. I've been racing with HUD off ever since cockpit view became available with GT5, this most realistic viewpoint does make things much more enjoyable.
Johnnypenso, CarBastard, I agree with you guys, I really do, the AI is positively pathetic, but try not to s@#t all over someone's suggestions for trying to make our GT6 purchase a little more enjoyable, these suggestions do have merit.
Johnnypenso, CarBastard, I agree with you guys, I really do, the AI is positively pathetic, but try not to s@#t all over someone's suggestions for trying to make our GT6 purchase a little more enjoyable, these suggestions do have merit.
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- Siggiewi
- rickykaka3
That's what i was doing, i used for example 500pp cars vs 600pp with SH tires.
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- Australia
- miazbaker
There is no doubt the Career Mode is too easy.
IA and S class races seemed a little better but I started playing online and have not spent much time on them since.
I am having a lot of fun with online races.
Wish they paid a little more though as I am going to have to do some more Career Mode races for some credits soon.
IA and S class races seemed a little better but I started playing online and have not spent much time on them since.
I am having a lot of fun with online races.
Wish they paid a little more though as I am going to have to do some more Career Mode races for some credits soon.
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- Tetsumura
- Nigel Fox
This is Johnny's version of public service, informing everyone who's trying to enjoy Gran Turismo that they need to knock it off, because it's wrong or something.
Anyhow, I'm not that desperate to find good stuff in GT6, having spent pretty much a year racing in Arcade Mode in GT5. I'm used to the bots' quirky behavior, and am happy enough just nerfing cars. I can't let go of the best tires though, because I like to throw cars around turns with authority. There are so many cars in this game, it's really pretty simple to hunt one down that will give you a satisfying race, to one extent or another. And by golly, the bots don't always give up.
That's exactly why I criticize the accurate stars in the sky. Regardless of how much or little effort it took, it's another excuse from PD to say: forget about the racing, we didn't improve anything in that area, but just drive and enjoy looking at the sky.
There's a thread going on now about how incredible the sky at Spa looks.
I'm waiting for threads about how exciting the racing is, so I can go out and buy it.
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- covan2306
So last night I ran the LeMans 24 hour minute
, in the Nissan R92CP race car, No assists, no driving line, NO HUD what so ever, all from cockpit view. It was a great race, came 1st and lead from an early stage. except for PD's BS interior.
All in all this doesn't remove the racing aspect of the game, it actually brings you closer to the race. Very cool TBO.
Here is my reaction to the Interior of the Nissan R92CP
, in the Nissan R92CP race car, No assists, no driving line, NO HUD what so ever, all from cockpit view. It was a great race, came 1st and lead from an early stage. except for PD's BS interior. All in all this doesn't remove the racing aspect of the game, it actually brings you closer to the race. Very cool TBO.
Here is my reaction to the Interior of the Nissan R92CP
- 4,741
- Bogota,Colombia
- GTP_ARP93
I'm not trying to 🤬 over anyone, I'd like to make that clear, but I'm absolutely tired of people defending the games obviously broken mechanics and putting the blame on the player and how he plays. Suffice to say, I too played sans aids since the beggining except for ABS 1 on cars that have it in real life because I prefer a driving experience that actually makes me think what I'm doing and doesn't allow me to willy-nilly overtake everything without any effort. And yes, using "closely matched" cars with stock tyres and no tuning whatsoever. Until recently I tried driving with the HUD off and with the racing line off considering I'm now more experienced with the new circuits and rememberd the old ones...but still, the racing in the game is pathetic.
If other people can enjoy it, be my guest, do it! But I cannot. What's the point of a career mode and race events if the only challenge you have is ridiculously overpowered cars that begin half a lap ahead of you and handle you the win a lap before the finish flag? Absolutely none. For me, that is. And that's racing without aids, without HUD, stock tyres, and with cars with PP below the competition. So...next suggestion?
What annoys me the most, as I had said in past posts, is that the AI is finally a bit decent. It does need some tweaks, like not braking super early or increasing the speed mid-corner, to be competitive with some relatively experienced players, but as prooved by the SuperGT300 and RB Junior championships it can provide a sufficient racing atmosphere and feel. But no, PoDi insisted on keeping AI slow instead of giving difficulty levels, making every race a mess of cars in terms of performance, forcing rolling starts and making every race a chaotic and poorly thought of "1 Lap Magic" a la GT4.
The graphics, the tracks, THE PHYSICS, and even the AI to some extent have improved...and yet PD messed up racing big time once again. And yet, some people have the nerve to come here and post that one should focus on "driving" (Duh! Because it's the real "driving" simulator...
) and time trials, that I should constantly handicapp myself each time more because the game is handicapped by design...come on...give me a break.
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- Tetsumura
- Nigel Fox
I've been tinkering with a Ferrari F430 Scuderia I "race modded" and entered in the first i-B (GAH!) i-A series, World Circuit Tour race at Motegi. Yes, I'm keeping it a little hamstrung, and with full chassis weight it's a little skittish in turns. I keep coming in second, but not winning has never been so fun. 
You guys who can't enjoy this game... oh well.
You guys who can't enjoy this game... oh well.
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- 5,761
- USA
- TPC_Raccooon23
- CRaccoon23
I especially agree with this part.
How long are we going to have to put up with doing these workarounds to get the most out of the offline portion of the game? There was so much complaining about the AI in GT5. But PD once again, saved the best of the AI exclusively for arcade mode, which is actually pretty competitive based on my experience. It's quite discouraging how it wasn't implemented in career mode.
And before someone accusses me
of trying to ruin other people's time with the game, for the record, I enjoy GT6 and I have my own ways of making the game fun. In fact, I wish I could play it everyday, but I don't have that luxury. As I said before, complaints about the AI were very common back when it was only GT5, but after a whole game, PD still hasn't gotten the message. So don't blame people for still being frustrated.
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- Raymond Terrace
- Jase_McMillan
I think it's obvious that most people are upset with the AI, it's one of several things that PD have disappointed us with in GT6. I've had at least one particularly frustrated rant on another thread for example about the downgrading of the visuals in exchange for faster loading times and frame rate improvements.
The only point I was trying to make with my previous post is that those of us who have bought the game have still gotta make the best of it and the OP wasn't really doing anything more than suggesting something helpful. It may have been overlooked by some that purposely making the game more difficult for yourself can make things a lot of fun. I've had some good races at the new tracks by running comfort tires and just trying to enjoy the driving itself. It goes some of the way towards making up for the AI, & I try to remember all this every time I'm rounding up NSX's with my Honda Civic...........
The only alternative really is not to keep buying the game and then screaming to everyone about how bad it is. It's clear to me now that PD aren't listening, so it's not really doing any good. The alternative is to look to another driving game. The last time I had a brief crack at Forza it's physics felt wooden by comparison, but the next time around I will no longer automatically go and get a Sony console and buy the latest version of Gran Turismo, I will look seriously at the alternatives. The OP's suggestions are fine for making the most of what we have now, but I will not be entertaining any such things with GT7. If they don't improve the sounds, if they don't improve the AI, if they don't make all cars to the same standard with detailed interiors that don't have stupid, avoidable, oversights ( Ferrari 365 gauges anyone? ), then I won't be playing Gran Turismo any more.
The only point I was trying to make with my previous post is that those of us who have bought the game have still gotta make the best of it and the OP wasn't really doing anything more than suggesting something helpful. It may have been overlooked by some that purposely making the game more difficult for yourself can make things a lot of fun. I've had some good races at the new tracks by running comfort tires and just trying to enjoy the driving itself. It goes some of the way towards making up for the AI, & I try to remember all this every time I'm rounding up NSX's with my Honda Civic...........
The only alternative really is not to keep buying the game and then screaming to everyone about how bad it is. It's clear to me now that PD aren't listening, so it's not really doing any good. The alternative is to look to another driving game. The last time I had a brief crack at Forza it's physics felt wooden by comparison, but the next time around I will no longer automatically go and get a Sony console and buy the latest version of Gran Turismo, I will look seriously at the alternatives. The OP's suggestions are fine for making the most of what we have now, but I will not be entertaining any such things with GT7. If they don't improve the sounds, if they don't improve the AI, if they don't make all cars to the same standard with detailed interiors that don't have stupid, avoidable, oversights ( Ferrari 365 gauges anyone? ), then I won't be playing Gran Turismo any more.
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- Exit-Speed_ftw
Allthough I agree with alot of the negative points raised about GT6 I have to get this of my chest.
All these complainers are acting extremely entitled. As if they made some holy blood pact with PD where they'd give PD 60 bucks and PD delivers on a flabbertastic piece of videogame gold.
Welcome to the real world. Companies and their customers will always have opposite interests. It's not like you "deserved" a better game or something, you paid for a game and you got one. If you don't like it, put it on Ebay.
All these complainers are acting extremely entitled. As if they made some holy blood pact with PD where they'd give PD 60 bucks and PD delivers on a flabbertastic piece of videogame gold.
Welcome to the real world. Companies and their customers will always have opposite interests. It's not like you "deserved" a better game or something, you paid for a game and you got one. If you don't like it, put it on Ebay.
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- USA
- TPC_Raccooon23
- CRaccoon23
You must be okay with games being released in poor condition then. Not saying GT6 is, but continuing to ignore issues your paying fanbase has been bringing up for years isn't exactly smart. As stated previously, the AI in arcade mode is pretty decent compared to the passive AI in career mode, so it can clearly be better. It's not like we're complaining about some cars and tracks PD choose not to put in the game. That to me is extreme entitlement.
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- Neomone
So you're allowed to complain if you don't have the game? Hooray!
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- Exit-Speed_ftw
I'm not "okay" with any product, from any company, that is released while it could've been better. What I'm saying is that every time you buy a product you run the risk of getting a bad deal. I don't see where Gran Turismo is different in this.
I myself was extremely disappointed in GT6 compared to how over the moon I was when I first played GT5. I like the new driving physics and the new tracks are good choices imo but all in all is GT6 barely more than a revamped GT5. But I don't feel as if any promises were made to me that weren't kept with this game.
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