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Pfffft, why would that be?!
Forgotten Cars Thread Week 61 and beyond: End of the Road
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- skilledf1racer
Suggestion: Mazda MX-Crossport Concept '05
Matej
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Direct steering is without doubts the most memorable virtue of the 156. Sharp turn-ins are delivered even in stock specs, which is why the car itself is useful on tight corners. General handling is not as refined as on the Euro-R, for instance, but I'm sure if one equalizes power and weight ratios, the 156 would be a very competitive machine. You just need to be careful not to use the steering too aggressively as the front axle may not have enough strength to cope with it, resulting in understeer. This rarely appears on the Euro-R, even if you drive it aggressively. That is what I mean by 'refined'.
When I tested both cars in GT3 and GT2, the 156 always had that sports factor visible because of its steering and occasional habit to sent the rear end into slide. Even if one Honda would have sports performance, to feel it, you were required to work on car. The 156 delivered fun straight away.
When I tested both cars in GT3 and GT2, the 156 always had that sports factor visible because of its steering and occasional habit to sent the rear end into slide. Even if one Honda would have sports performance, to feel it, you were required to work on car. The 156 delivered fun straight away.
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Good point about the Euro-R, @Matej
In my testing at Mid-Field, a stock Euro-R is 2 seconds quicker than the 156.
1:29.954 - 406 - Honda Accord Euro-R '00
1:31.901 - 387 - Alfa Romeo 156 2.5 V6 24V '98
Euro-R
2.2L
215 hp / 7,000 rpm
165 ft-lb / 6,500 rpm
1,330 kg (2,932 lbs)
156
2.5L
190 hp / 7,200 rpm
161 ft-lb / 5,000 rpm
1,320 kg (2,910 lbs)
In my testing at Mid-Field, a stock Euro-R is 2 seconds quicker than the 156.
1:29.954 - 406 - Honda Accord Euro-R '00
1:31.901 - 387 - Alfa Romeo 156 2.5 V6 24V '98
Euro-R
2.2L
215 hp / 7,000 rpm
165 ft-lb / 6,500 rpm
1,330 kg (2,932 lbs)
156
2.5L
190 hp / 7,200 rpm
161 ft-lb / 5,000 rpm
1,320 kg (2,910 lbs)
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- RacingCowboy570
- RacingCowboy570
Sadly, it turns out that the 156 is left out like most of the other Alfa Romeos. The 156 does have some potential to win. It looks good ad drives good to me, so that's enough to win me over. This week we're speeding things up a bit, so this week's forgotten car is.....
The Callaway C12 was originally created to win the GT2 class at Le Mans. In fact, a Callaway C12.R took the class pole position at Le Mans in 2001, beating Porsche, Ferrari and other world-class marques. Subsequently produced Callaway C12 road cars utilized much of the C12.R technology, but configured to present the driver with a refined sportscar with excellent road car manners.
Built in conjunction with the IVM Engineering Group of Germany, the C12 project was a combined effort of Callaway Cars (USA) and Callaway Competition (Germany). With styling provided by Callaway’s accomplished designer, Paul Deutschman, the C12 used the 1997-2004 Corvette platform as a donor vehicle, transforming an already-great car into a world beater. With the completely new body a full two meters wide to take advantage of Le Mans dimensional regulations, Callaway engineers developed the C12 coil-over suspension with its own unique control arm forgings and tuned, adjustable dampers. C12.R power was provided by highly tuned, naturally aspirated LS-series engines built by Callaway to Le Mans specs, while C12 road cars were powered by the SuperNatural version of the new LS-series Corvette engines.
Only 25 Callaway C12 road cars were ever produced, purchased at an average price of approximately $200,000. They are still coveted by leading car collectors worldwide.
So what do you think? Let me know, and if you have any suggestions, don't hesitate to comment!!!
Source: http://www.callawaycars.com/home/the-company/callaway-cars/c12/
Based on the C5 Corvette, this potent sports car was made by special order.
Price: $175,880
Displacement: 5,666 cc
Max Power: 432 HP / 6,300 rpm
Max Torque: 384.0 ft-lb / 5,200 rpm
Drivetrain / Aspiration: FR / NA
Length: 191.0 in.
Width: 78.7 in.
Height: 47.1 in.
Weight: 1,480 kg
The Callaway C12 '03! Callaway did a great job of using the C5 Corvette to make this car. I did own one a while back in GT6, but didn't spend much time with it. If I remember, this is one of the untouched standard cars, which is a shame because this car looks so good. Anyways, I will try it again this week. Full stats to follow soon.Price: $175,880
Displacement: 5,666 cc
Max Power: 432 HP / 6,300 rpm
Max Torque: 384.0 ft-lb / 5,200 rpm
Drivetrain / Aspiration: FR / NA
Length: 191.0 in.
Width: 78.7 in.
Height: 47.1 in.
Weight: 1,480 kg
The Callaway C12 was originally created to win the GT2 class at Le Mans. In fact, a Callaway C12.R took the class pole position at Le Mans in 2001, beating Porsche, Ferrari and other world-class marques. Subsequently produced Callaway C12 road cars utilized much of the C12.R technology, but configured to present the driver with a refined sportscar with excellent road car manners.
Built in conjunction with the IVM Engineering Group of Germany, the C12 project was a combined effort of Callaway Cars (USA) and Callaway Competition (Germany). With styling provided by Callaway’s accomplished designer, Paul Deutschman, the C12 used the 1997-2004 Corvette platform as a donor vehicle, transforming an already-great car into a world beater. With the completely new body a full two meters wide to take advantage of Le Mans dimensional regulations, Callaway engineers developed the C12 coil-over suspension with its own unique control arm forgings and tuned, adjustable dampers. C12.R power was provided by highly tuned, naturally aspirated LS-series engines built by Callaway to Le Mans specs, while C12 road cars were powered by the SuperNatural version of the new LS-series Corvette engines.
Only 25 Callaway C12 road cars were ever produced, purchased at an average price of approximately $200,000. They are still coveted by leading car collectors worldwide.
So what do you think? Let me know, and if you have any suggestions, don't hesitate to comment!!!
Source: http://www.callawaycars.com/home/the-company/callaway-cars/c12/
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At Mid-Field Raceway on Comfort Softs, the Callaway C12 can't even beat the C5 Z06...
1:20.643 - 505 - Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C5) '04
1:21.407 - 499 - Callaway C12 '03
C12 '03
5.7L
432 hp / 6,500 rpm
384 ft-lb / 5,500 rpm
1,480 kg (3,263 lbs)
Z06 '04
5.7L
406 hp / 6,000 rpm
400 ft-lb / 4,500 rpm
1,414 kg (3,117 lbs)
So the Z06 gives up 26 horses to the C12, but makes up for it with an extra 16 ft-lbs of torque, and weighs about 150 lbs less than the C12.
I can see why this car is forgotten.
1:20.643 - 505 - Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C5) '04
1:21.407 - 499 - Callaway C12 '03
C12 '03
5.7L
432 hp / 6,500 rpm
384 ft-lb / 5,500 rpm
1,480 kg (3,263 lbs)
Z06 '04
5.7L
406 hp / 6,000 rpm
400 ft-lb / 4,500 rpm
1,414 kg (3,117 lbs)
So the Z06 gives up 26 horses to the C12, but makes up for it with an extra 16 ft-lbs of torque, and weighs about 150 lbs less than the C12.
I can see why this car is forgotten.
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- RacingCowboy570
- RacingCowboy570
The C12 must feel a bit embarrassed that it can't even keep up with the C5 Vette. I've been driving and tuning it all week and I may be getting close to a tune, so be on the lookout in the tune forum. This week I decided to choose a more "out there" vehicle. This week's forgotten car is.....
In the late 1940s, Detroit's wild automotive fantasies reflected America's unbridled postwar exuberance. Inspired by jet aircraft and rockets, "dream cars" sprouted tailfins and even vestigial wings. But Chrysler Corporation emphasized engineering prowess over styling. Practical, staid, and slow, its Plymouth division competed head-to-head with Ford and Chevrolet.
The visually stunning 1960 XNR roadster left the aging Corvette for dead. A bold extended nose led the way, framed with a thin chrome surround that outlined a grille composed of an oblong plate of solid aluminum with holes drilled for cooling, incorporating a set of then-popular quad headlights. In back, a vertical strip emerged from the tall dorsal fin and flowed under the lower deck, teeing into another thin blade, forming a bold cross that served as a bumper. The XNR's radical rear dramatically underscored its asymmetrical theme. An eight-page Plymouth XNR promotional brochure read: "Functional, beautiful, unprecedented: The entire design is concentrated around the driver."
More eye candy included a slender reveal on each side, fronted by a small running light in an aircraft-inspired nacelle, to break up the car's rather boxy sail area. Below the curved outline of a side fin, later adapted for the production Valiant's rear quarters, was a fully radiused rear-wheel opening. A wide rocker strip broke up the XNR's slab sides. Fashionably thin whitewalls on 14-inch steel wheels were adorned with unique and very complex slotted hubcaps. External exhaust pipes ran on the left side only.
So what do you think? Let me know and as always, keep the suggestions coming!!!
A Gran Turismo Award winner, this wild concept car had numerous pronounced fins reflecting America's jet age.
Price: $1,000,000
Displacement: 2,790 cc
Max Power: 249 HP / 7,000 rpm
Max Torque: 199.9 ft-lb / 5,000 rpm
Drivetrain / Aspiration: FR / NA
Length: 193.0 in.
Width: 73.0 in.
Height: 43.0 in.
Weight: ---
The Plymouth XNR Ghia Roadster '60! I'd say that this is one of the coolest concept cars I've seen, and you can own one today in GT6 for the bargain price of $1,000,000. Anyways, it's proved to be a fun car so far, so there may still be hope for it.Price: $1,000,000
Displacement: 2,790 cc
Max Power: 249 HP / 7,000 rpm
Max Torque: 199.9 ft-lb / 5,000 rpm
Drivetrain / Aspiration: FR / NA
Length: 193.0 in.
Width: 73.0 in.
Height: 43.0 in.
Weight: ---
In the late 1940s, Detroit's wild automotive fantasies reflected America's unbridled postwar exuberance. Inspired by jet aircraft and rockets, "dream cars" sprouted tailfins and even vestigial wings. But Chrysler Corporation emphasized engineering prowess over styling. Practical, staid, and slow, its Plymouth division competed head-to-head with Ford and Chevrolet.
The visually stunning 1960 XNR roadster left the aging Corvette for dead. A bold extended nose led the way, framed with a thin chrome surround that outlined a grille composed of an oblong plate of solid aluminum with holes drilled for cooling, incorporating a set of then-popular quad headlights. In back, a vertical strip emerged from the tall dorsal fin and flowed under the lower deck, teeing into another thin blade, forming a bold cross that served as a bumper. The XNR's radical rear dramatically underscored its asymmetrical theme. An eight-page Plymouth XNR promotional brochure read: "Functional, beautiful, unprecedented: The entire design is concentrated around the driver."
More eye candy included a slender reveal on each side, fronted by a small running light in an aircraft-inspired nacelle, to break up the car's rather boxy sail area. Below the curved outline of a side fin, later adapted for the production Valiant's rear quarters, was a fully radiused rear-wheel opening. A wide rocker strip broke up the XNR's slab sides. Fashionably thin whitewalls on 14-inch steel wheels were adorned with unique and very complex slotted hubcaps. External exhaust pipes ran on the left side only.
So what do you think? Let me know and as always, keep the suggestions coming!!!
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When I first got it, I painted mine white and pretended it was the Mach 5The C12 must feel a bit embarrassed that it can't even keep up with the C5 Vette. I've been driving and tuning it all week and I may be getting close to a tune, so be on the lookout in the tune forum. This week I decided to choose a more "out there" vehicle. This week's forgotten car is.....
The Plymouth XNR Ghia Roadster '60! I'd say that this is one of the coolest concept cars I've seen, and you can own one today in GT6 for the bargain price of $1,000,000. Anyways, it's proved to be a fun car so far, so there may still be hope for it.
In the late 1940s, Detroit's wild automotive fantasies reflected America's unbridled postwar exuberance. Inspired by jet aircraft and rockets, "dream cars" sprouted tailfins and even vestigial wings. But Chrysler Corporation emphasized engineering prowess over styling. Practical, staid, and slow, its Plymouth division competed head-to-head with Ford and Chevrolet.
The visually stunning 1960 XNR roadster left the aging Corvette for dead. A bold extended nose led the way, framed with a thin chrome surround that outlined a grille composed of an oblong plate of solid aluminum with holes drilled for cooling, incorporating a set of then-popular quad headlights. In back, a vertical strip emerged from the tall dorsal fin and flowed under the lower deck, teeing into another thin blade, forming a bold cross that served as a bumper. The XNR's radical rear dramatically underscored its asymmetrical theme. An eight-page Plymouth XNR promotional brochure read: "Functional, beautiful, unprecedented: The entire design is concentrated around the driver."
More eye candy included a slender reveal on each side, fronted by a small running light in an aircraft-inspired nacelle, to break up the car's rather boxy sail area. Below the curved outline of a side fin, later adapted for the production Valiant's rear quarters, was a fully radiused rear-wheel opening. A wide rocker strip broke up the XNR's slab sides. Fashionably thin whitewalls on 14-inch steel wheels were adorned with unique and very complex slotted hubcaps. External exhaust pipes ran on the left side only.
So what do you think? Let me know and as always, keep the suggestions coming!!!
Handles well and is fun to drive in my point of view.
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- cutback73
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Best thing about the Plymouth is being able to convert it to a one seater or a twin seater, depending on whether, well you know, whether you expect to go home alone tonight. In a car as eye catching as this, I'd take the extra seat...
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- NJ
- Rave2Grave
Well I just bought one this morning for the first time ever. I'm going to test it at Mid-Field on Comfort Soft tires, as usual.
Post-purchase specs, without oil change:
2.8L
250 hp / 7,000 rpm
200 ft-lb / 5,000 rpm
1,500 kg (3,307 lbs)
408 pp
15 minutes later, I achieved my best lap time...
With a wheel, 1:29 is a definite.
Other cars that finish with 0.500 seconds:
1:29.954 - 406 - Honda Accord Euro-R '00
1:29.995 - 407 - Peugeot RCZ '10
1:30.048 - 415 - Volvo C30 R-Design '09
1:30.076 - 389 - Mitsubishi FTO GR '97
1:30.126 - 403 - Mini Cooper S '11
1:30.170 - 407 - Audi TT Coupe 1.8T Quattro '00
1:30.175 - 394 - Peugeot 206 RC '03
1:30.339 - 410 - Ram 1500 Laramie Hemi Quad Cab '04
1:30.383 - 408 - Mitsubishi Airtrek Turbo-R '02
1:30.397 - 387 - Toyota Sprinter Trueno BZ-R '98
1:30.410 - 393 - Nissan Skyline HT 2000 Turbo RS (R30) '83
1:30.424 - 409 - Alfa Romeo Brera Sky Window 3.2 JTS Q4 '06
1:30.448 - 408 - Plymouth XNR Ghia Roadster '60
1:30.456 - 408 - Mitsubishi Galant 2.0 DOHC Turbo VR-4 '89
1:30.471 - 395 - Toyota Celica SS-II (ZZT231) '99
1:30.477 - 389 - Mini Cooper S '02
1:30.502 - 383 - Honda CR-X SiR '90
1:30.510 - 411 - Toyota Celica GT-Four RC (ST185) '91
1:30.565 - 389 - Nissan Primera 20V '01
1:30.574 - 371 - MG MGF '97
1:30.578 - 404 - Volkswagen New Beetle RSi '00
1:30.599 - 391 - Mini Cooper S '05
1:30.600 - 383 - Honda Civic SiR-II (EG) '95
1:30.622 - 392 - Nissan Silvia K's Dia Selection (S13) '90
1:30.703 - 391 - Mazda Roadster RS (NC) '07
1:30.706 - 382 - Mitsubishi FTO GR '94
1:30.728 - 401 - Alfa Romeo GTV 3.0 V6 24V '01
1:30.805 - 400 - Audi Quattro '82
1:30.822 - 407 - Ford Taurus SHO '98
1:30.822 - 402 - Mercedes-Benz 300 SL Coupé '54
1:30.843 - 390 - Peugeot 207 GTi '07
1:30.887 - 376 - Toyota MR2 Spyder '99
1:30.908 - 398 - Toyota Celica SS-II (ST202) '97
1:30.911 - 386 - Ford Focus ST170 '03
1:30.913 - 383 - Mazda MX-5 1800 RS (NB, J) '00
A shuffle race between the Mercedes 300 SL and the XNR Ghia would be pretty evenly matched. Maybe an oil change for the Benz would make things more interesting.
Post-purchase specs, without oil change:
2.8L
250 hp / 7,000 rpm
200 ft-lb / 5,000 rpm
1,500 kg (3,307 lbs)
408 pp
15 minutes later, I achieved my best lap time...
With a wheel, 1:29 is a definite.
Other cars that finish with 0.500 seconds:
1:29.954 - 406 - Honda Accord Euro-R '00
1:29.995 - 407 - Peugeot RCZ '10
1:30.048 - 415 - Volvo C30 R-Design '09
1:30.076 - 389 - Mitsubishi FTO GR '97
1:30.126 - 403 - Mini Cooper S '11
1:30.170 - 407 - Audi TT Coupe 1.8T Quattro '00
1:30.175 - 394 - Peugeot 206 RC '03
1:30.339 - 410 - Ram 1500 Laramie Hemi Quad Cab '04
1:30.383 - 408 - Mitsubishi Airtrek Turbo-R '02
1:30.397 - 387 - Toyota Sprinter Trueno BZ-R '98
1:30.410 - 393 - Nissan Skyline HT 2000 Turbo RS (R30) '83
1:30.424 - 409 - Alfa Romeo Brera Sky Window 3.2 JTS Q4 '06
1:30.448 - 408 - Plymouth XNR Ghia Roadster '60
1:30.456 - 408 - Mitsubishi Galant 2.0 DOHC Turbo VR-4 '89
1:30.471 - 395 - Toyota Celica SS-II (ZZT231) '99
1:30.477 - 389 - Mini Cooper S '02
1:30.502 - 383 - Honda CR-X SiR '90
1:30.510 - 411 - Toyota Celica GT-Four RC (ST185) '91
1:30.565 - 389 - Nissan Primera 20V '01
1:30.574 - 371 - MG MGF '97
1:30.578 - 404 - Volkswagen New Beetle RSi '00
1:30.599 - 391 - Mini Cooper S '05
1:30.600 - 383 - Honda Civic SiR-II (EG) '95
1:30.622 - 392 - Nissan Silvia K's Dia Selection (S13) '90
1:30.703 - 391 - Mazda Roadster RS (NC) '07
1:30.706 - 382 - Mitsubishi FTO GR '94
1:30.728 - 401 - Alfa Romeo GTV 3.0 V6 24V '01
1:30.805 - 400 - Audi Quattro '82
1:30.822 - 407 - Ford Taurus SHO '98
1:30.822 - 402 - Mercedes-Benz 300 SL Coupé '54
1:30.843 - 390 - Peugeot 207 GTi '07
1:30.887 - 376 - Toyota MR2 Spyder '99
1:30.908 - 398 - Toyota Celica SS-II (ST202) '97
1:30.911 - 386 - Ford Focus ST170 '03
1:30.913 - 383 - Mazda MX-5 1800 RS (NB, J) '00
A shuffle race between the Mercedes 300 SL and the XNR Ghia would be pretty evenly matched. Maybe an oil change for the Benz would make things more interesting.
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- New Zealand
I love the XNR Ghia Roadster. I have about five of them in my garage. The one I drive all the time has gone over 2,900 kilometres in distance & it is in Gran Turismo Blau. With stock exhaust when changing gears at 4,000 rpms this car purrs along nicely. When changing gears at 8,000rpms it screams its guts out. I've also managed to get my tuned ones up to about 390 to 400 km/h on Route X under their own power after tuning. With tuning it has about 440 to 482BHP if I remember. If I use a different muffler for a few more BHP though it not makes much difference I use semi racing since it sounds good to. I wish there were more 6 cylinder American cars in Gran Turismo 6.
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- RacingCowboy570
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The XNR has interesting styling and an interesting shape. I painted mine tuxedo black and kept the wheels stick for a suit and tie look. Pretty fun var to drive especially when a lot of people ask "What car is that?". This week is going back to plain old common vehicles. I'm sure a bunch of you will agree that this one is forgotten. This week's forgotten car is.....
The Volkswagen Golf Mk5 (also known as the VW Typ 1K) is a compact car, the fifth generation of the Volkswagen Golf and the successor to the Volkswagen Golf Mk4. Built on the Volkswagen Group A5 (PQ35) platform, it was unveiled at the Frankfurt Motor Show in October 2003 and went on sale in Europe one month later. Suspension changes and careful tuning of the chassis, led to the Mk5 Golf delivering better ride and handling. However, this sacrificed usable cargo space despite this model's considerable increase in size over the outgoing model. Its hatch volume is roughly 3 cubic feet (85 L) less.
The interior quality of the previous generation had been lost, and although still of a high standard and ahead of rivals, the Golf no longer matched the in-house Audi A3. Options for engines and transmissions vary from country to country, but the Golf Mk5 is available with 4-cylinder petrol engines, and a new Pumpe Duse unit injector Turbocharged Direct Injection (TDI) diesel engine. Transmission options include manual,automatic, Tiptronic, and Direct-Shift Gearbox(DSG).
The GTI comes with VW's 4-cylinder 2.0L Turbo Fuel Stratified Injection (FSI) which makes 200 PS (147 kW; 197 bhp) and 280 N·m (207 lbf·ft) torque. Transmissions include a 6-speed manual or 6-speed DSG. New Twincharger (TSI) petrol engine uses Fuel Stratified Injection (FSI), along with a pair of chargers forcing the induction of the air. The chargers are a single superchargerthat disengages after a specified rev-range, at which point charging of the air is handled by a single turbocharger. This system benefits from the pumping efficiency of the supercharger at lower revs and the fuel efficiency of the turbocharger at high revs. This results in more constant power delivery through the rev range, and better fuel efficiency. Both petrol and diesel versions are also available with DSG (Direct-Shift Gearbox). Performance figures for the petrol vehicle are 0-100 km/h (62 mph) in 6.9s (6 speed) and 6.9s (DSG), with the diesel taking 8.2s, and both reaching top speed of 220 km/h (136.7 mph).
So what do you think? Let me know, and as always, keep the suggestions coming!!!
Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Golf_Mk5
This 5th-gen iteration of the German hot hatch featured unparalleled performance.
Price: $32,750
Displacement: 1,984 cc
Max Power: 197 HP / 5,100 rpm
Max Torque: 206.8 ft-lb / 1,800-5,000 rpm
Drivetrain / Aspiration: FF / T
Length: 165.5 in.
Width: 69.3 in.
Height: 58.5 in.
Weight: 1,336 kg
The Volkswagon Golf V GTI '05! Seen a few in GT5 in a stanced out form but really have not seen one on GT6. I also remember that one license test in GT4 which featured this car on the Nordshliefe. I'll give it a try and see how if performs.Price: $32,750
Displacement: 1,984 cc
Max Power: 197 HP / 5,100 rpm
Max Torque: 206.8 ft-lb / 1,800-5,000 rpm
Drivetrain / Aspiration: FF / T
Length: 165.5 in.
Width: 69.3 in.
Height: 58.5 in.
Weight: 1,336 kg
The Volkswagen Golf Mk5 (also known as the VW Typ 1K) is a compact car, the fifth generation of the Volkswagen Golf and the successor to the Volkswagen Golf Mk4. Built on the Volkswagen Group A5 (PQ35) platform, it was unveiled at the Frankfurt Motor Show in October 2003 and went on sale in Europe one month later. Suspension changes and careful tuning of the chassis, led to the Mk5 Golf delivering better ride and handling. However, this sacrificed usable cargo space despite this model's considerable increase in size over the outgoing model. Its hatch volume is roughly 3 cubic feet (85 L) less.
The interior quality of the previous generation had been lost, and although still of a high standard and ahead of rivals, the Golf no longer matched the in-house Audi A3. Options for engines and transmissions vary from country to country, but the Golf Mk5 is available with 4-cylinder petrol engines, and a new Pumpe Duse unit injector Turbocharged Direct Injection (TDI) diesel engine. Transmission options include manual,automatic, Tiptronic, and Direct-Shift Gearbox(DSG).
The GTI comes with VW's 4-cylinder 2.0L Turbo Fuel Stratified Injection (FSI) which makes 200 PS (147 kW; 197 bhp) and 280 N·m (207 lbf·ft) torque. Transmissions include a 6-speed manual or 6-speed DSG. New Twincharger (TSI) petrol engine uses Fuel Stratified Injection (FSI), along with a pair of chargers forcing the induction of the air. The chargers are a single superchargerthat disengages after a specified rev-range, at which point charging of the air is handled by a single turbocharger. This system benefits from the pumping efficiency of the supercharger at lower revs and the fuel efficiency of the turbocharger at high revs. This results in more constant power delivery through the rev range, and better fuel efficiency. Both petrol and diesel versions are also available with DSG (Direct-Shift Gearbox). Performance figures for the petrol vehicle are 0-100 km/h (62 mph) in 6.9s (6 speed) and 6.9s (DSG), with the diesel taking 8.2s, and both reaching top speed of 220 km/h (136.7 mph).
So what do you think? Let me know, and as always, keep the suggestions coming!!!
Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Golf_Mk5
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Car handles really well. Shame you can't do much when it comes to exterior modification.The XNR has interesting styling and an interesting shape. I painted mine tuxedo black and kept the wheels stick for a suit and tie look. Pretty fun var to drive especially when a lot of people ask "What car is that?". This week is going back to plain old common vehicles. I'm sure a bunch of you will agree that this one is forgotten. This week's forgotten car is.....
The Volkswagon Golf V GTI '05! Seen a few in GT5 in a stanced out form but really have not seen one on GT6. I also remember that one license test in GT4 which featured this car on the Nordshliefe. I'll give it a try and see how if performs. Full stats and description to follow.....
- 3,417
- NJ
- Rave2Grave
Seeing this car just makes me wish we had the 7th gen in GT6...
Volkswagen Golf V GTI '05
2.0L
196 hp / 5,500 rpm
203 ft-lb / 2,000 rpm
1,336 kg (2,945 lbs)
405 pp
At Mid-Field on Comfort Softs:
Its competition:
1:28.754 - 427 - Buick GNX '87
1:28.756 - 414 - Renault Sport Mégane R.S. '08
1:28.784 - 409 - Nissan 180SX Type X '96
1:28.801 - 407 - Subaru BRZ S '12
1:28.804 - 402 - Acura RSX Type-S '04
1:28.810 - 414 - Toyota Tacoma X-Runner '04
1:28.854 - 422 - Alpine A110 1600S '72
1:28.865 - 403 - Acura Integra Type R '01
1:28.954 - 413 - Mitsubishi Eclipse GT '95
1:28.964 - 398 - Honda Gathers Drider Civic '98
1:28.968 - 428 - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution GSR '92
1:28.976 - 417 - Nissan Stagea 25t RS Four S '98
1:28.983 - 404 - Lotus Europa Special '72
1:28.999 - 421 - Volvo S60 T-5 Sport '03
1:29.158 - 419 - Subaru Legacy B4 3.0R '03
1:29.237 - 405 - Volkswagen Golf V GTI '05
1:29.247 - 429 - Chevrolet Corvette Coupe C2 '63
1:29.335 - 417 - Subaru Legacy Touring Wagon 3.0R '03
1:29.337 - 415 - Nissan Fairlady Z 300ZX (Z31) '83
1:29.363 - 399 - Renault Sport Clio R.S. 2.0 16V '02
1:29.371 - 388 - Lotus Elise '11
1:29.379 - 419 - Acura CL 3.2 Type-S '03
1:29.426 - 399 - Mercedes-Benz SLK 230 Kompressor '98
1:29.459 - 406 - Mitsubishi Lancer 1600 GSR Rally Car '74
1:29.517 - 397 - Honda Accord Euro-R '02
1:29.577 - 425 - Toyota Caldina GT-Four '02
1:29.592 - 378 - Toyota MR2 Spyder (6MT) '02
1:29.603 - 402 - Honda Prelude SiR S Spec '98
1:29.655 - 406 - Audi S3 '02
1:29.688 - 409 - Fiat Coupe Turbo Plus '00
1:29.697 - 405 - Honda Prelude Type S '96
1:29.715 - 405 - Toyota Altezza Gita AS300 '01
1:29.736 - 418 - Acura CL 3.2 Type-S '01
Volkswagen Golf V GTI '05
2.0L
196 hp / 5,500 rpm
203 ft-lb / 2,000 rpm
1,336 kg (2,945 lbs)
405 pp
At Mid-Field on Comfort Softs:
Its competition:
1:28.754 - 427 - Buick GNX '87
1:28.756 - 414 - Renault Sport Mégane R.S. '08
1:28.784 - 409 - Nissan 180SX Type X '96
1:28.801 - 407 - Subaru BRZ S '12
1:28.804 - 402 - Acura RSX Type-S '04
1:28.810 - 414 - Toyota Tacoma X-Runner '04
1:28.854 - 422 - Alpine A110 1600S '72
1:28.865 - 403 - Acura Integra Type R '01
1:28.954 - 413 - Mitsubishi Eclipse GT '95
1:28.964 - 398 - Honda Gathers Drider Civic '98
1:28.968 - 428 - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution GSR '92
1:28.976 - 417 - Nissan Stagea 25t RS Four S '98
1:28.983 - 404 - Lotus Europa Special '72
1:28.999 - 421 - Volvo S60 T-5 Sport '03
1:29.158 - 419 - Subaru Legacy B4 3.0R '03
1:29.237 - 405 - Volkswagen Golf V GTI '05
1:29.247 - 429 - Chevrolet Corvette Coupe C2 '63
1:29.335 - 417 - Subaru Legacy Touring Wagon 3.0R '03
1:29.337 - 415 - Nissan Fairlady Z 300ZX (Z31) '83
1:29.363 - 399 - Renault Sport Clio R.S. 2.0 16V '02
1:29.371 - 388 - Lotus Elise '11
1:29.379 - 419 - Acura CL 3.2 Type-S '03
1:29.426 - 399 - Mercedes-Benz SLK 230 Kompressor '98
1:29.459 - 406 - Mitsubishi Lancer 1600 GSR Rally Car '74
1:29.517 - 397 - Honda Accord Euro-R '02
1:29.577 - 425 - Toyota Caldina GT-Four '02
1:29.592 - 378 - Toyota MR2 Spyder (6MT) '02
1:29.603 - 402 - Honda Prelude SiR S Spec '98
1:29.655 - 406 - Audi S3 '02
1:29.688 - 409 - Fiat Coupe Turbo Plus '00
1:29.697 - 405 - Honda Prelude Type S '96
1:29.715 - 405 - Toyota Altezza Gita AS300 '01
1:29.736 - 418 - Acura CL 3.2 Type-S '01
- 5,649
- North Dakota
- RacingCowboy570
- RacingCowboy570
The Golf is what I think I very well detailed car for a premium model. Yet it is so underrated that not even the cruise rooms use them. There isn't too much for me to say about this car, just that it is a sleeper that has potential like a lot of others. This week I chose a vehicle that seemed to sneak into the GT series. This week's forgotten car is.....
The XF was launched with a variety of trims called, depending on country, 'SE', 'Luxury', 'Premium Luxury' (or 'Premium'), 'Portfolio' (or 'Premium Portfolio'), 'SV8' (or 'Supercharged') and 'R'. For the UK market, company car-friendly 'Executive Edition' and 'SE Business' models with a lower tuned versions of the 3.0 L and 2.2 L diesel engines respectively are available. The 2008 4.2-litre supercharged engined was replaced by the new 5.0-litre supercharged engine rated at 470 PS (346 kW; 464 hp), and came with Adaptive Dynamics (computer controlled continuously variable damping) and Active Differential Control (electronically controlled rear differential).
The XFR was announced at Detroit's North American International Auto Show in January 2009 as a new performance derivative of the XF range, and featured the new 5.0-litre supercharged AJ-V8 Gen III engine rated 510 PS (375 kW; 503 hp), a revised front bumper and spoiler and 20-inch (510 mm) alloy wheels.
So what do you think? Let me know and as always, keep the suggestions coming!!!
Source: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...3vugvy&usg=AFQjCNHyjk5u2OlBbML4VMAK1Mpklxb2Iw
This Jaguar represented luxury in a middle class sedan.
Price: $120,000
Displacement: 4,999 cc
Max Power: 502 HP / 6,000-6,500 rpm
Max Torque: 461.4 ft-lb / 2,500-5,500 rpm
Drivetrain / Aspiration: FR / SC
Length: 195.7 in.
Width: 73.8 in.
Height: 57.5 in.
Weight: 1,960 kg
The Jaguar XFR '10. I really don't know why this car is a standard model, but I never hear anything of it so I'll try it out. It drove OK for me in GT5 and proved to be somewhat competitive at the right PP range.Price: $120,000
Displacement: 4,999 cc
Max Power: 502 HP / 6,000-6,500 rpm
Max Torque: 461.4 ft-lb / 2,500-5,500 rpm
Drivetrain / Aspiration: FR / SC
Length: 195.7 in.
Width: 73.8 in.
Height: 57.5 in.
Weight: 1,960 kg
The XF was launched with a variety of trims called, depending on country, 'SE', 'Luxury', 'Premium Luxury' (or 'Premium'), 'Portfolio' (or 'Premium Portfolio'), 'SV8' (or 'Supercharged') and 'R'. For the UK market, company car-friendly 'Executive Edition' and 'SE Business' models with a lower tuned versions of the 3.0 L and 2.2 L diesel engines respectively are available. The 2008 4.2-litre supercharged engined was replaced by the new 5.0-litre supercharged engine rated at 470 PS (346 kW; 464 hp), and came with Adaptive Dynamics (computer controlled continuously variable damping) and Active Differential Control (electronically controlled rear differential).
The XFR was announced at Detroit's North American International Auto Show in January 2009 as a new performance derivative of the XF range, and featured the new 5.0-litre supercharged AJ-V8 Gen III engine rated 510 PS (375 kW; 503 hp), a revised front bumper and spoiler and 20-inch (510 mm) alloy wheels.
So what do you think? Let me know and as always, keep the suggestions coming!!!
Source: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...3vugvy&usg=AFQjCNHyjk5u2OlBbML4VMAK1Mpklxb2Iw
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- 5,065
- Fort Worth
- That_sneaky_azN
Love the car. Shame it's a standard.The Golf is what I think I very well detailed car for a premium model. Yet it is so underrated that not even the cruise rooms use them. There isn't too much for me to say about this car, just that it is a sleeper that has potential like a lot of others. This week I chose a vehicle that seemed to sneak into the GT series. This week's forgotten car is.....
The Jaguar XFR '10. I really don't know why this car is a standard model, but I never hear anything of it so I'll try it out. It drove OK for me in GT5 and proved to be somewhat competitive at the right PP range.
The XF was launched with a variety of trims called, depending on country, 'SE', 'Luxury', 'Premium Luxury' (or 'Premium'), 'Portfolio' (or 'Premium Portfolio'), 'SV8' (or 'Supercharged') and 'R'. For the UK market, company car-friendly 'Executive Edition' and 'SE Business' models with a lower tuned versions of the 3.0 L and 2.2 L diesel engines respectively are available. The 2008 4.2-litre supercharged engined was replaced by the new 5.0-litre supercharged engine rated at 470 PS (346 kW; 464 hp), and came with Adaptive Dynamics (computer controlled continuously variable damping) and Active Differential Control (electronically controlled rear differential).
The XFR was announced at Detroit's North American International Auto Show in January 2009 as a new performance derivative of the XF range, and featured the new 5.0-litre supercharged AJ-V8 Gen III engine rated 510 PS (375 kW; 503 hp), a revised front bumper and spoiler and 20-inch (510 mm) alloy wheels.
- 3,417
- NJ
- Rave2Grave
My best lap at Mid-Field on Comfort Softs:
It's a tenth faster than the XKR R Performance '02 but a whole second slower than the XKR '10.
It's a tenth faster than the XKR R Performance '02 but a whole second slower than the XKR '10.
- 16,518
- Melbourne
- ScottPuss20
- CheetahsMeow
I forget that this car is in the game. It really is a forgotten car.The Golf is what I think I very well detailed car for a premium model. Yet it is so underrated that not even the cruise rooms use them. There isn't too much for me to say about this car, just that it is a sleeper that has potential like a lot of others. This week I chose a vehicle that seemed to sneak into the GT series. This week's forgotten car is.....
This Jaguar represented luxury in a middle class sedan.The Jaguar XFR '10. I really don't know why this car is a standard model, but I never hear anything of it so I'll try it out. It drove OK for me in GT5 and proved to be somewhat competitive at the right PP range.
Price: $120,000
Displacement: 4,999 cc
Max Power: 502 HP / 6,000-6,500 rpm
Max Torque: 461.4 ft-lb / 2,500-5,500 rpm
Drivetrain / Aspiration: FR / SC
Length: 195.7 in.
Width: 73.8 in.
Height: 57.5 in.
Weight: 1,960 kg
The XF was launched with a variety of trims called, depending on country, 'SE', 'Luxury', 'Premium Luxury' (or 'Premium'), 'Portfolio' (or 'Premium Portfolio'), 'SV8' (or 'Supercharged') and 'R'. For the UK market, company car-friendly 'Executive Edition' and 'SE Business' models with a lower tuned versions of the 3.0 L and 2.2 L diesel engines respectively are available. The 2008 4.2-litre supercharged engined was replaced by the new 5.0-litre supercharged engine rated at 470 PS (346 kW; 464 hp), and came with Adaptive Dynamics (computer controlled continuously variable damping) and Active Differential Control (electronically controlled rear differential).
The XFR was announced at Detroit's North American International Auto Show in January 2009 as a new performance derivative of the XF range, and featured the new 5.0-litre supercharged AJ-V8 Gen III engine rated 510 PS (375 kW; 503 hp), a revised front bumper and spoiler and 20-inch (510 mm) alloy wheels.
So what do you think? Let me know and as always, keep the suggestions coming!!!
Source: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...3vugvy&usg=AFQjCNHyjk5u2OlBbML4VMAK1Mpklxb2Iw
- 394
- Hampshire,UK
- skilledf1racer
Sad thing is I doubt the XFR would be forgotten if it was premium 
- 16,518
- Melbourne
- ScottPuss20
- CheetahsMeow
Think about it for a minute - this is the only standard car made after 2005, and all the other vehicles made after that period are premium. Even Gran Turismo forgot about itSad thing is I doubt the XFR would be forgotten if it was premium
- 1,970
- Adelaide
Not the only standard made after GT4, the new cars that were featured in GTPSP were also standards (Veyron, Countach, Furai and probably a few others).Think about it for a minute - this is the only standard car made after 2005, and all the other vehicles made after that period are premium. Even Gran Turismo forgot about it
- 1,806
- Belgrade
- FrancSRB
But Veryron , Countach are updated to premium, Furai isn't because its destroyed in real life.
- 1,970
- Adelaide
My point was that they were first modelled as standards, after 2005.
- 5,649
- North Dakota
- RacingCowboy570
- RacingCowboy570
The XFR seemed almost too heavy to tune in GT6. Though I have heard of it being used as a drift car, so I guess that is good. But hey, if you want a cruiser that will turn peoples heads, give this some consideration. This week's car is one that can be one in one of the latest seasonals. This week's forgotten car is.....
The Lexus ISF Racing Concept '08! There isn't too much for me to say about this one. I did use it in GT5 and as the anniversary edition in GT6, but that's it. I'll see how it does this week.
At the 2008 Tokyo Auto Salon, the IS F Racing Concept was shown. Few details were released at the show, other than that the concept was the work of chief engineer Yukihiko Yaguchi who built the concept "just for fun", to show "true driving pleasure", and exhibit a potential IS F race car. The IS F Racing Concept had larger fenders, wheels, and spoilers, in a similar manner as DTM racing cars. Reports at the event suggested that the vehicle was not planned for actual racing; rather instead different IS F models were being prepared for racing. The IS F later made its racing debut in VLN competition.
So what do you think? Let me know, and as always, keep the suggestions coming!!!
Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexus_IS_(XE20)
The Lexus ISF Racing Concept '08! There isn't too much for me to say about this one. I did use it in GT5 and as the anniversary edition in GT6, but that's it. I'll see how it does this week.
At the 2008 Tokyo Auto Salon, the IS F Racing Concept was shown. Few details were released at the show, other than that the concept was the work of chief engineer Yukihiko Yaguchi who built the concept "just for fun", to show "true driving pleasure", and exhibit a potential IS F race car. The IS F Racing Concept had larger fenders, wheels, and spoilers, in a similar manner as DTM racing cars. Reports at the event suggested that the vehicle was not planned for actual racing; rather instead different IS F models were being prepared for racing. The IS F later made its racing debut in VLN competition.
So what do you think? Let me know, and as always, keep the suggestions coming!!!
Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexus_IS_(XE20)
- 1,169
- Maine
- LETS4000
I love my anniversary IS F!
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