Forgotten/Worst Gr.[#] Cars?
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- Laguna
- Alpha_Cipher1
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- LewisBentley6
I got rekt in the race as I really needed more time with the 650S and more experience at RBR before racing but I was on a pole lap through Sector 1 and 2 before deciding to grab a 0.93 second penalty in Sector 3 by getting it all wrong in those last 2 corners, and that was with Aderrrm in the lobby 
The car is hella quick but almost Lambo tier of hard to drive
The car is hella quick but almost Lambo tier of hard to drive
Tidgney
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. Ye that cars tyres need a rework and then it'll be alright, but race pace I'd put money on it under the current settings or settings used in the championship its the worst car in group 4 and by quite a portion I reckon. Over 1 lap on power tracks it can be up there, handling tracks near the bottom.If they keep upping the tyre wear they'll have to literally give it a NOS or something
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There is nothing on earth that could make me use a stupid VGT car in a Gr3 race against a real world option. A roofless VW and a Peugeot with no windows. Ridiculous. They could be faster than anything else on the grid by a massive margin and i would still refuse to use them.
As for Gr4, any FWD car is just as bad to me as the silly VGTs. Nothing would ever get me driving one of those learner cars!
Gr1. Again, if it's not a real car i wont go near it.
Get rid of all VGT cars from number Groups and give them all their own Gr-VGT class.
As for Gr4, any FWD car is just as bad to me as the silly VGTs. Nothing would ever get me driving one of those learner cars!
Gr1. Again, if it's not a real car i wont go near it.
Get rid of all VGT cars from number Groups and give them all their own Gr-VGT class.
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- ScottPuss20
- CheetahsMeow
One car I don't see much of is the Atenza Group 3. That's probably for good reason though, as it's a pig to drive. The Group 3 and 4 RCZ's are extremely uncommon too - I don't think I've ever got in a scrap with one. Same with McLaren, even though they're decent. One Group 1 car I've rarely come across is the TS030. It's even less common that the TS040.
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- Bekasi
- razaqafazran1103
@F4H Super GT used one during the Nürb GP race a week ago. Then there is Bellof956 and CristianoSa's attempt to get Mazda into the Top 16, but failed due to kazunokota decided that he was taking a break from GTS during the Final Season!
@Tidgney is the master of the RCZ in both Gr.3 and Gr.4 forms, but then in Asia/Oceania, there will be an occasional RCZ Gr.3 popping up in Sport Mode races, primarily on handling tracks.
A certain British alien who is coincidentally named @mclarenLB is now driving for them in the Manufacturers Exhibition Series, and so does people like Gouka and Right-Matsu. Then, if you dig into the very early Test Seasons, JUN-_-JEEEEN used to drive for said manufacturer.
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- Alpha_Cipher1
Atenzas are common midfield cars per se- pretty much your go to car if you're not sure what car to use/ you don't like the meta car. You gave me a great idea for the TS030, maybe I'd use that in the next set of Gr. 1 dailies
I feel like it has the pace to be good, just outshone by the TS050
, although that title should be PUG Master to whoever is the best in a Peugeot for an individual season 
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I used McLaren through the previous season and since all I do is FIA Manufacturing, I have very little basis for comparison lol but the 3 positives I liked were:
-Taller gears, particularly the lower gears. Makes low speed corners less troublesome.
-Fuel economy. Many races (not all though) I didn’t need to short shift at all while competitors did.
-possibly the best looking modern race car in the game
-Taller gears, particularly the lower gears. Makes low speed corners less troublesome.
-Fuel economy. Many races (not all though) I didn’t need to short shift at all while competitors did.
-possibly the best looking modern race car in the game
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There's no possibly there. It is hands down 100% no argument the best looking Gr. 3 in the gamepossibly the best looking modern race car in the game
Yes please!!!
In case you were still hoping for an answer; Nations Cup, S2R1 Nurburgring, with Akagi driving.
Meanwhile, the Porsche 919 seems to have fallen out of favour recently, but it's still as solid as it's always been, even if it isn't the best Group 1 car at any given circuit. The '16 Audi R18 proved faster at Le Mans, but I don't know if that's going to be the case at every track. Nonetheless, a lot of players are likely going to flock to it now.
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Boedefeld
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So it's a car you actually have to be careful with to be quick and not just another Meta car that even my grandma could get to the top? Yeah, seeing as you guys are the best of the best, nobody could handle it.
Seeing as Tidgney got the RCZ to the top so often, you could get the 650 up there as well.I'm gonna go with the Lambo come next FIA season.
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The Atenza ran very well at the Nurb GP Gr.3 daily not long ago, but you are right - it isn't a car that is used often by a lot of people.
I was able to more than match 911 users at Nurb GP but during the Nations Cup race from the final season I was easily beaten by the Lancer. The Atenza has very good power but struggles in the corners slightly against more nimble cars like the Lancer.
On the whole, I basically had to drive the Atenza perfectly to win races where the 911 was probably equal when driven slightly worse. Atenza is probably a few tenths off at most tracks.
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Genesis Gr3 is supremely stable under trailbraking and cornering, but lacking outright power. Great for handling tracks, and hardly anyone uses it.
RS01 Gr3 is a bit of a diva because of its MR balance, but personally, I find it strangely satisfying, though it keeps you on your toes to drive it right. You just have to get into the flow with it and be smooth with inputs. Easier with a wheel, I suppose. Great shape and engine note, too. Also hardly used in dailies. It’s practcally a mid-engined GT-R!
RS01 Gr3 is a bit of a diva because of its MR balance, but personally, I find it strangely satisfying, though it keeps you on your toes to drive it right. You just have to get into the flow with it and be smooth with inputs. Easier with a wheel, I suppose. Great shape and engine note, too. Also hardly used in dailies. It’s practcally a mid-engined GT-R!
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- vessakuoriainen
This is old thread but I must just wonder that for how long time BMW Z4 gt3 has been totally incompetitive. Many of the other cars discussed here have been good in some circuits at some point during last couple of years (like RS01, Genesis, Atenza, Peugeot VGT etc.) but Z4 seems to be always poor option on any track 
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So, so many cars are useless. Stunned how bad the BOP is.
Groups 3 and 4 the McLaren anything is barely used, Z4 barely used, Mitsubishi group 3, Alfas are useless, Cayman, atenza group 4...i could go on and on.
Groups 3 and 4 the McLaren anything is barely used, Z4 barely used, Mitsubishi group 3, Alfas are useless, Cayman, atenza group 4...i could go on and on.
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- vessakuoriainen
Well McLaren F1 GTR BMW 95 has been very good in some circuits (especially when softer compounds available) but Z4 has been totally useless in anyplace, anywhere, anytime. Indeed group 3 Alfa is quite bad too.
LeGeNd-1
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This is old thread but I must just wonder that for how long time BMW Z4 gt3 has been totally incompetitive. Many of the other cars discussed here have been good in some circuits at some point during last couple of years (like RS01, Genesis, Atenza, Peugeot VGT etc.) but Z4 seems to be always poor option on any track
Z4 is a handling car but has a very poor top speed, and it's one of the few FR cars that can keep up with MRs in the wet. It's just that most people tend to overlook it (and the M3, which is one of the fastest straightline cars) because they're old.
650S Gr.3 is dominant at high speed tracks with flowing corners. It was meta at Dragon Trail Seaside a few season back.
650S Gr.4 is one of the fastest accelerating MR cars, with good handling and top speed. At Monza it's basically the top 3 car along with F-Type and Veyron. Why most people are slow with it, is because it needs to be short shifted at 25-50% rev bar. If you rev any higher it falls out of powerband and you're just wasting acceleration.
F1 GTR I agree is useless unless you're at Tokyo East/Sarthe/Monza NC.
See above for Z4.
Mitsubishi Gr.3 is basically the same as Subaru Gr.3. But because Mitsubishi doesn't make any real sports cars anymore, the brand is just unpopular. This last manu season, one of the top EMEA aliens used Mitsu and it's top 12 brand in the region.
Alfa Gr.3 is one of the best tyre saving cars. In the last Nations Maggiore race, it's the only one that can keep up with Mazda RXV (which is now OP as hell in terms of tyre saving). I know, because I went from 19th to 6th in that race with barely any practice. I agree Alfa Gr.4 is kinda bad right now. But it's very difficult to balance this car without making it too OP (in 2020 it's basically the go to car for any Gr.4 race with tyre wear).
Cayman again is one of the best tyre saving cars in Gr.4, along with Toyota 86 and Megane Trophy (NSX used to be in this group until it got nerfed with so much weight). It's got decent top speed for a handling car, and also amazing at fuel saving because of long gearing.
Atenza Gr.4 is an "alien" only car. It's got decent top speed, great at fuel saving but very sluggish acceleration. Basically you have to maintain momentum as much as possible in the corners, then you can be fast with it. I've seen some JP aliens use it at the top of the leaderboard, but yeah for 99% players it's difficult.
The BOP is actually not bad (save for 1-2 cars at certain tracks), but it takes a VERY good driver to prove it, because some cars you have to work in the corners to get the laptime (the "bad" cars), while others you can just put your foot down in the straights and let the car do the work (the "good" cars).
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- pedrocor
The whole Gr. 1 is a mess.
The older, Group C cars have way less downforce, only keep up with no chicane version of La Sarthe, mostly because the state of the art have way less top speed, to a combination of more drag, less combustion engine hp and run off of hybrid juice through the straights.
Aside that, some fictional cars are outrageously fast in some tracks, because of absurd hp or extremely low weight.
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- pedrocor
Also some oddities like an old (90s) GT1, the McLaren F1 GT-R, who was comparable to a prototype those days, was put in Gr.3, a car that won Le Mans overall. The inclusion is hard to understand, as McLaren already had the 650S GT3 in the category.
The system lacks a group to these old GT1, possibly with the 90's/early 2000s GT500 cars.
In Gr,3 also, the older SLS AMG is nowhere near the pace of the more modern AMG GT.
The Gr.4, combining FF, FR, MR and 4WD, is more circuit dependable, which turns out to be nice. I like the way it "obliges" you to get used to different transmission configurations, depending on the circuits.
The system lacks a group to these old GT1, possibly with the 90's/early 2000s GT500 cars.
In Gr,3 also, the older SLS AMG is nowhere near the pace of the more modern AMG GT.
The Gr.4, combining FF, FR, MR and 4WD, is more circuit dependable, which turns out to be nice. I like the way it "obliges" you to get used to different transmission configurations, depending on the circuits.
TonyJZX
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I've stated that Gr.1 is a mess of at least 4 classes and really, you only need to master 2 of the Gr.1 classes to be competitive.
To me it makes driving this class a waste of time so you have a mess of cars that should not be in the same race.
1st class is probably the VGT. They have very high top speed, very good handling and is overall GOOD because they are spaceships.
2nd class is the old LMP-H class which is a master of handling and econ but looses out on top speed.
3rd class is 2000's era petrol or diesel LMP cars of which there's only 2.
4th class is the 1990's era Gr.C cars of which are basically top speed cars.
Supposedly coming is the new Toyota WEC Supercar class.
To me it makes driving this class a waste of time so you have a mess of cars that should not be in the same race.
1st class is probably the VGT. They have very high top speed, very good handling and is overall GOOD because they are spaceships.
2nd class is the old LMP-H class which is a master of handling and econ but looses out on top speed.
3rd class is 2000's era petrol or diesel LMP cars of which there's only 2.
4th class is the 1990's era Gr.C cars of which are basically top speed cars.
Supposedly coming is the new Toyota WEC Supercar class.
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