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So, yeah, Gasly is getting sacked. There's no way around that.
Formula 1 Rolex Magyar Nagydíj 2019
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#blessed wins it.
Carlos Sainz again, yet again, showing why he's the gem of the midfield this season. He can legitimately overtake Gasly in the standings if they can keep playing their cards right, and Gasly still chokes.
Mclaren as a team seems far more fit and happier compared to seasons past. The Renault engines I don't think are bad, as much as the circle jerk wants me to believe it is. It just needs a bit more reliability.
Carlos Sainz again, yet again, showing why he's the gem of the midfield this season. He can legitimately overtake Gasly in the standings if they can keep playing their cards right, and Gasly still chokes.
Mclaren as a team seems far more fit and happier compared to seasons past. The Renault engines I don't think are bad, as much as the circle jerk wants me to believe it is. It just needs a bit more reliability.
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To be fair, Carlos came to Renault and immediately started putting in points, and gave Hulk somewhat of a challenge. Lando this season just has bad luck going for him, with his botched pit stop adding another page into his rookie chapter.
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I don't know that a fast teammate for Max would have made a difference here. The sheer race pace of Lewis in the Merc was the bigger point here. Max basically spent the majority of the race trying to run away only for Lewis to keep him in check which basically forced him to use up his tires a lot faster than he would have wanted. I mean they were both so far ahead at the end lapping everyone up to P5...I really can't see how a teammate would have helped him there.
That being said, I think Gasly is hurting Red Bull as a whole. Seeing what the car can do with Max, if they had a better driver than Gasly, I'm positive they would be #2 over Ferrari at this point. Max is single handedly fighting both Merc and Ferrari by himself.
EDIT: How come Renault as a works team always getting bested by their customer team? It was the same thing with RedBull and now they are already 43 points behind McLaren.
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Come on, Lando is in his first year at just 19 years of age. In all honestly it's not his driving that's been holding him back, he's simply had technical problems with the car. When qualifying he's often outpaced Carlos, and when his car is running good he's been successfully challenging Carlos and others higher up in the pecking order.
I hope I'm right, but give it another couple of years and I think we'll see Lando very much as part of the next gen drivers, going wheel to wheel with the likes of Max and Charles.
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Great race and brilliant/smart strategy from Lewis and Mercedes - I've always liked Hungaroring so it's good to see an exciting race there again.
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The way Merc is going, Lewis should win his 6th championship this year. Whether it's his final is entirely up to him.
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Wow, what a terrible showing from Ferrari. They weren't EVEN CLOSE to the leaders.
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I would go as far as saying that Ferrari were closer to being caught by Sainz than they were to challenging "Red Bull" or "Mercedes" (allowing for a poor performing driver and the other getting driven into unfairly). Spa and Monza will play to their strengths more, but the rest of the season then starts to look a bit bleak...
Good to see George Russell is now able to mix it with the teams ahead, should make his Sunday afternoons more interesting. That is great work by Williams to close a gap that started the season around / over a full second a lap off the nearest rival...
Good to see George Russell is now able to mix it with the teams ahead, should make his Sunday afternoons more interesting. That is great work by Williams to close a gap that started the season around / over a full second a lap off the nearest rival...
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I've just checked the lap charts and Vettel was very definitely gaining 0.75-1s a lap on Leclerc every lap after Vettel stopped on lap 40 (bar traffic)...
... except the one in which they swapped places, two laps from the end, where Vettel gained 2.682s on Leclerc. After that (okay, for laps 69 and 70), they were right back to 0.75-1s gaps.
Vettel's overtake was rather firm, it has to be said (perhaps like the overtake of someone who is concerned for his position with a younger, possibly faster team-mate snapping at his heels and wants to put the upstart in his place as number two) but the timings really do look like Vettel wasn't quite going to make the pass before the finish line without Leclerc being told to cede it.
Not that this is a bad thing, or against any rules, and Vettel was already 21 points ahead of Leclerc in the drivers' championship. I was just surprised to see them swap places on the live timing that close to the end of the race.
Bottas is totally getting sacked. Amusingly on the topic of Gasly who is also totally getting sacked Horner was talking to DC and Welshy McWelshface (umm... Steeeeeeve... something?) before the race about the possibility of Vettel moving back to Red Bull. He said "We're very happy... with our number one driver".
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If you read Mark Webber's book then you get an insight into how things work inside Red Bull. I wouldn't believe a word that Doctor Helmet says.
Fair enough, although traffic may have been more of a factor than we think. That wasn't the TV director's focus, of course. Leclerc also did 12 laps more on his second set of tyres (43 to Vettel's 31), it's possible they were simply cooked.
Here are their comparative laptimes, courtesy of https://www.racefans.net/2019/08/04...-interactive-data-lap-charts-times-and-tyres/
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To be honest, it doesn’t really matter what Mark Webber says in his book, his beef with Marko is irrelevant. Two completely different drivers and situations. Webber was nearing the end of his career and was not performing well compared to Vettel. Ricciardo on the other hand is arguably hitting his peak and still has plenty of years ahead of him.
All I’m saying is Dan wasn’t pushed out of Red bull, they wanted to keep him because a) he can be right there with Max in terms of results, and b) they had no better alternative within their young driver program at the time.
He left RBR on his own terms for various reasons. Saying Red Bull bullied him out is simply not true, I bet they are really missing him right now.
All I’m saying is Dan wasn’t pushed out of Red bull, they wanted to keep him because a) he can be right there with Max in terms of results, and b) they had no better alternative within their young driver program at the time.
He left RBR on his own terms for various reasons. Saying Red Bull bullied him out is simply not true, I bet they are really missing him right now.
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I remember watching one of those skyf1 interviews with Dani Ric after he left RB and from what he was saying, he left Red Bull because he couldn't see a future with the team. Even though they wanted to keep him, he said Max is RB's poster/golden child and the atmosphere in the team made it obvious to him that everything and everyone in the team was rallying around Max while not explicitly make it look as though they clearly have a #1 and #2 driver. As such, He felt he had no space there unless he agreed to be Max's #2 and since that wasn't what he wanted for his career, he left. Rumor has it that his new salary at Renault kinda made it easier for him to leave since apparently RB would have never offered him that much.
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