Forza 4 DEMO and GAMEPLAY

[BlackoutBilly]

So I'm a gaming specialist at Best Buy and a hardcore racing game fan (obviously). I want everyone to be aware that right now at most Best Buy's you can actually play a super exclusive demo of Forza 4 that's not available anywhere else. I got to check it out this morning and saying that it's unreal is a severe understatement. This game feels different and looks different than any other console racing game to date, and if you start off using the 458 with no assists, you will quickly see what I mean. Finally a racing game where the driving physics are as unforgiving as real life. If you even start to go sideways, you'll quickly notice how hard it is to correct yourself, unlike the relative ease in GT5 and previous Forza games. It really seems like T10 took into consideration all of the complaints from Forza 3 and even did research into the massive disappointment with GT5. Just from playing the limited demo this game seems to step in where others have failed and really create a solid simulation game.

So, everyone that reads this, go to your local Best Buy and see if you can check out the demo!!! Comment back here and let me know what you think. And pay attention to the track physics and the environment, it looks great in my opinion.

p.s. I recommend starting off with the STi to get a feel...lol

 

[NA]

What's different from the demo that Turn 10 was giving codes for this weekend? Just wonderring.

 

[BlackoutBilly]

I'm actually not positive, I wasn't even aware T10 was giving out codes til just a few minutes ago. Judging by the video footage I've seen it looks like it's the same demo, but at least everyone has access to it. I posted before reading the actual thread on the game so I had no idea all these people already had access (woops). I haven't used the Fanatec wheel with it, but I am surprised at how much disappointment I've seen on the thread. Then again we are on the Gran Turismo forum and everyone knows how that goes. I'm not at all biased towards either franchise and I personally loved the gameplay.

 

[NA]

Ahhh, ok. Mistakes happen, and your reply just saved me a trip to bestbuy, so no harm done.

 

[BryCivicSi]

I don't remember GT5 being a massive disappointment. I enjoyed it.

If you want a little credibility, keep your opinions like that to yourself.

 

[zr1chris]

I don't remember GT5 being a massive disappointment. I enjoyed it.

It may have not been a disappointment to you and I enjoyed it also for a couple months and still once in a awhile from time to time but It was still a disappointment to me a ALLOT of others. Forza has a much more sustainable playability in my opinion. Between the Drag, Drift, Race, livery editor and the many more events in career mode and not to mention a better variety of cars to try out FM takes the win.

Sorry for the off topic post. Lets keep the rest of the GT vs FM talk in the appropriate thread.

 

[disinfected]

It may have not been a disappointment to you and I enjoyed it also for a couple months and still once in a awhile from time to time but It was still a disappointment to me a ALLOT of others. Forza has a much more sustainable playability in my opinion. Between the Drag, Drift, Race, livery editor and the many more events in career mode and not to mention a better variety of cars to try out FM takes the win.

Sorry for the off topic post. Lets keep the rest of the GT vs FM talk in the appropriate thread.

Hard not to with as biased as this review sounds.

 

[Da-Bomber]

I don't remember GT5 being a massive disappointment. I enjoyed it.

If you want a little credibility, keep your opinions like that to yourself.

He can express that if he wants to as can anyone else here.

 

[zr1chris]

Hard not to with as biased as this review sounds.

It sounds biased because the demo is all around good. Everything is improved over FM3 so whats not to like? Sorry if that makes it sound biased to you. I play both games and was extremely excited about GT5 when it came out but was a bit disappointed although I still play it from time to time. I am also to very interested to see what spec 2.0 will bring but that doesn't make me any less impressed by FM4.

 

[espeed623]

Off topic: The only thing that I play GT5 for is the Seasonal Events. Usually pull out my wheel, do the events, put it back. I really only play the Seasonal Events for the XP and credit bonuses. Trying to get a darn X2010. Getting to level 40, I've found, is pretty time consuming.
On topic: Chris, quick question: You got a fanatec or something? If I can secure a job here, I'm looking at getting one for FM4, seen as I had to be so unfortunate enough to have bought a DFGT.

 

[zr1chris]

On topic: Chris, quick question: You got a fanatec or something? If I can secure a job here, I'm looking at getting one for FM4, seen as I had to be so unfortunate enough to have bought a DFGT.

Yes sir, Fanatec Turbo S. Just bought it a few weeks ago in preparation for FM4 and to replace both my MS wheel (which I sold on eBay) and DFGT (which I gave to my cousin).

 

[FuzzyFassbender]

I don't remember GT5 being a massive disappointment. I enjoyed it.

If you want a little credibility, keep your opinions like that to yourself.

Hard not to with as biased as this review sounds.

I can't believe it... every thread in this FORZA forum is infected with rants. It's HIS "opinion"... what's wrong with that? He is posting in a FORZA forum You guys have an opinion I am sure. Yours AND his are just as correct as the other - and subjective.

 

[BryCivicSi]

I can't believe it... every thread in this FORZA forum is infected with rants. It's HIS "opinion"... what's wrong with that? He is posting in a FORZA forum You guys have an opinion I am sure. Yours AND his are just as correct as the other - and subjective.

The whole first post sounded objective and brought up key points. What bothers me is this line, "It really seems like T10 took into consideration all of the complaints from Forza 3 and even did research into the massive disappointment with GT5." Why add the words 'massive disappointment other than to show bias? He could have wrote, 'consideration all of the complaints from Forza 3 and even GT5.' His opinion is fine. I don't care what it is cause neither game is perfect and that's not the point I am making here.

You says this Forza forum is infected with rants, how is that first post not a rant? Cause it's Forza biased? Instead of making the first post about how awesome the Forza 4 demo is, he made it a post about how awesome the Forza 4 demo is in comparison to that massive disappointment called GT5. The former giving me the idea that I really need to check the demo out from someone that sounds credible compared to a random dude who is fanboy for one game over the other. Understand where I am coming from now?

EDIT:
And trust me, I do apologize for posting in this thread. One for getting the topic off course and for getting in this pointless debate about semantics.

 

[zr1chris]

Again thats his opinion.

Also it has been well documented that allot of people were really disappointed with GT5 mainly due to standard cars and the not so great career mode and terrible AI. I as many others held PD to a higher standard. There was no hint at all of how bad standard cars would look and lack of customization until we got the game. I enjoyed the Prologue version almost just as much as GT5 itself.

 

[NA]

Moral of the story: Opinions are fine when worded in a careful manner with an eye towards how other might react, and as long has it's not within 15 days of a release date, or on the internet, or in english, or involves an internet browser, or......

Ok, I'm not serious after "how others might react," but thats how i've learned to survive these kinds of forum pre-release mood enviroments. Forgive me.

 

[BryCivicSi]

Again thats his opinion.

Should I spell it out differently? Why is his opinion about GT5 in a thread about how spectacular the demo is. This is my point. You become credible when you're unbiased. Or at least when you give your opinion without sounding overly biased. Get it now?

This has absolutely nothing to do with GT5 gameplay but credibility and sounding unbiased. please understand.

 

[NA]

Might I suggest, given that this really falls under the "Forza 4 Demo thread", https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=224011&page=12, (having it's own issues and arguments allready), that we assume that this one is most likely going to be locked anyway, and let it go?
Only the OP knows his true intent, and given the hostility of the Forza forums in general today, I'm personnaly going to choose to believe that the OP had good intentions, if only for the sake of my own sanity. No need to make more work for mods on a day like this if nothing else...(wipes brown smudge off nose )

 

[zr1chris]

Should I spell it out differently? Why is his opinion about GT5 in a thread about how spectacular the demo is. This is my point. You become credible when you're unbiased. Or at least when you give your opinion without sounding overly biased. Get it now?

This has absolutely nothing to do with GT5 gameplay but credibility and sounding unbiased. please understand.

So he should have posted his GT5 thoughts on the GT vs FM thread. His opinion is still his opinion. Posting it in the wrong place doesn't make it less credible in my opinion. Posting false statements as facts is what loses credibilty to me. Credibilty is in the eye of the beholder. So that's fine if you think he lost credibility. That's your opinion and your intitled to that.

 

[BryCivicSi]

Back on topic, good to know this is the same as the demo we can download. Save me the trip to BBY. Can't wait to get off work tomorrow and not just cause I have to pull the dash from a '66 tbird that became a nest for mice. The smell is awful!!

 

[NA]

Oh wonderfull. And mice love wires. Can't see why you'd want the demo when you can play with electrocuted mice corpses and 40+ years of assorted unidentifiables of suspect nature....

 

[t.o.]

Ahhh, ok. Mistakes happen, and your reply just saved me a trip to bestbuy, so no harm done.

Wow really? I'm of the belief that you try things for yourself. Nobody but Turn10 knows FOR SURE if both demos are the same

I don't remember GT5 being a massive disappointment. I enjoyed it.

If you want a little credibility, keep your opinions like that to yourself.

Well I do, maybe after a few months of giving the game a chance and looking forward to it only to scratch my head and say "Did I actually spend money on this" and then getting online and finding out I'm not the only one.

The whole first post sounded objective and brought up key points. What bothers me is this line, "It really seems like T10 took into consideration all of the complaints from Forza 3 and even did research into the massive disappointment with GT5." Why add the words 'massive disappointment other than to show bias? .

I don't know, maybe because of the massive disappointment.

Again thats his opinion.

Also it has been well documented that allot of people were really disappointed with GT5 mainly due to standard cars and the not so great career mode and terrible AI. I as many others held PD to a higher standard. There was no hint at all of how bad standard cars would look and lack of customization until we got the game. I enjoyed the Prologue version almost just as much as GT5 itself.

This among other things. And here's the ironic part, if it wasn't for the rabid GT fans I wouldn't even have pumped myself up to believe it would be a game to be held at a "higher standard". You read all the threads before GT5 released from rabid fans and you'd think Jesus himself would come down with the game with the prophet Mohammed right beside him giving you a few tips on throttle control.

 

[NA]

Wow really? I'm of the belief that you try things for yourself. Nobody but Turn10 knows FOR SURE if both demos are the same

Uhhh, ok, fair enough if you believe that. Not a bad phylosophy at all in fact, but I have a demo. Tell me again the wisdom of why I should waste gas to go see another demo, that may or may not be a different demo, but the OP doesn't think it is, and even if it isn't, is still not going to be worth $15.00 in gas just to find out. Not to mention that mabey, stressing mabey, if it is different, and does provide me with some little bit of new info, that info will also be posted here 20 times by other people anyway. In the end I can decide go try it later if there is any apparent significant difference reported, even though it won't change the end result for me one bit, being as i've seen enough to take the pre-order risk, so i'm not really going to lose sleep over the worry that I am missing something. Lol.

 

[t.o.]

Uhhh, ok, fair enough if you believe ... blah blah blah...... even though it won't change the end result for me one bit?

And that's all I need to read. Good day/night.

 

[NA]

And that's all I need to read. Good day/night.

Apparently it wasn't since I basically agreed with your main point.
In other words, your post sounded great untill I asked you to justify, using logic, exactly how it applied to my situation. Didn't really want to put the effort into that? Odd.
Leaving the part out where I explain why it won't matter to me is a nice touch has well.
Making such a response to my comment, then acting like I'm the obstinate party for asking you to clarify how it applied to me. Just plain Classic.

 

[Scaff]

We already have a FM4 demo thread and this one has already gone off-topic (as we already have a GT vs FM thread as well).


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