Forza 4 Nordschleife

[PzR Slim]

Just wanted to relay a little story from a race last night that might add to this debate. I will start by saying I haven't completed many laps on the Ring in GT5, the vast majority of my laps around the Ring have been done in FM, and we are talking hundreds of laps so I know the FM version like the back of my hand.

Last night I was racing with my new weekly GT league. I've been racing with them for the past three months. I'm one of the better racers and usually finish in the top three. Last night was the first race we had done on the Ring. The entry requirements were 601 BHP, 1300kg cars from Germany. The vast majority of us went for the R8. I did no tuning whatsoever as frankly, I'm crap at it. It was a three lap race and I managed to win and was a whole minute quicker than the second place guy who manages to beat me elsewhere as much as I beat him.

If the Ring is so wrong that it's almost like another track in FM how was I able to be so dominant on the Ring in GT? I hadn't even done a practice lap in the car. The reason is simple. I know it so well from FM and the differences are not that great that I suddenly can't drive around it very quickly when I race the GT version. So, for me, the incorrect nature of the Ring in FM does not in anyway spoil it either in FM or when I race the track in other games. I am not in anyway disputing the fact that it is wrong in FM, it is, we all accept this but I can't accept this notion that it's like a different track as a result of being wrong.

 

[azrael1965]

Interesting to read story. But I might add, that you might be good at the GT5 Ring, because you are a better driver anyway. If you are good at driving games , you will be quick even without much experience with the track. I took the other way around. Most of my Nordschleife laps are driven on the GT5 version. Although I suck , I was able to get the GT-R record trophy after a lot of practice and i have some experience with the FM3 track. When I started to do rival mode in FM4 on the Nürburgring , I was always able to place in the top 1% of the leaderboard although i was ranked about 16000th. Can this be? The best in the leaderboards are still more then a minute faster then i am. Anyway i believe i am too slow, because i tend to brake too much. The FM4 Nord is much smoother and the cornerspeed can be higher. To me it almost feels like another track and to be quick it's better to forget the GT5 or GTR Evolution track and to relearn. Besides i was driving the Furai. Compared to driving a similar car in Gt5 I nearly didn't need to use the brakes as much as i used to (in GT5) and I believe i have to brake even less to get better laptimes, the corners feel less challenging. To say the truth this does disappoint me a little, as it makes driving the Nordschleife feeling more arcade like.

 

[Bogie 19th]

Just wanted to relay a little story from a race last night that might add to this debate. I will start by saying I haven't completed many laps on the Ring in GT5, the vast majority of my laps around the Ring have been done in FM, and we are talking hundreds of laps so I know the FM version like the back of my hand.

Last night I was racing with my new weekly GT league. I've been racing with them for the past three months. I'm one of the better racers and usually finish in the top three. Last night was the first race we had done on the Ring. The entry requirements were 601 BHP, 1300kg cars from Germany. The vast majority of us went for the R8. I did no tuning whatsoever as frankly, I'm crap at it. It was a three lap race and I managed to win and was a whole minute quicker than the second place guy who manages to beat me elsewhere as much as I beat him.

If the Ring is so wrong that it's almost like another track in FM how was I able to be so dominant on the Ring in GT? I hadn't even done a practice lap in the car. The reason is simple. I know it so well from FM and the differences are not that great that I suddenly can't drive around it very quickly when I race the GT version. So, for me, the incorrect nature of the Ring in FM does not in anyway spoil it either in FM or when I race the track in other games. I am not in anyway disputing the fact that it is wrong in FM, it is, we all accept this but I can't accept this notion that it's like a different track as a result of being wrong.

Exactly...the tracks are so close anyway, it comes down to memorizing. I have been racing both, and you would be hard pressed to tell the differences.

 

[cuco33]

But i don't have X-Box Gold Membership, I know because I don't pay for it. Yet I can race vs ghosts of other players in rival mode. I was surprised myself that i was able to. Maybe it's not the true rival mode?

Please explain how you were able to see the ghosts of other players. Which mode did you select? I was locked out entirely of rivals mode and the entire community tab. I could only see ghost cars in rivals mode. If XBL Silver allows you to race against ghost cars, that's cool but like mentioned rivals is locked to community tab

 

[azrael1965]

Please explain how you were able to see the ghosts of other players. Which mode did you select? I was locked out entirely of rivals mode and the entire community tab. I could only see ghost cars in rivals mode. If XBL Silver allows you to race against ghost cars, that's cool but like mentioned rivals is locked to community tab

I can't select a rival, but the game chooses someone who is a little quicker than my last race and i see his ghost during the race. So i can improve little by little. But i don't know if it 's the true rivals mode. And i get exp and credits after finishing as well as a bonus if i beat the rival.

 

[cuco33]

Is it your personal best run?

 

[azrael1965]

Is it your personal best run?

Yes the rival chosen is always a little faster then my personal best run at that challenge. I can see name and the car used by the rival. Actually this rival mode is really interesting and keeping my interest in Forza 4 high even without X-Box Gold. Expecially i have still room to improve a lot. I still improve my lap times and have managed to beat every of the chosen rivals , so it's not frustrating at all.

 

[cuco33]

I might be trying this on my XBL Silver account. My experience was the community tab you are locked out of.
Rivals mode is awesome.

 

[buickgnx88]

Isn't there a rivals tab under the race section in the career mode?... Never clicked on it so I don't know if it's the same as you guys are talking about.

 

[azrael1965]

Isn't there a rivals tab under the race section in the career mode?... Never clicked on it so I don't know if it's the same as you guys are talking about.

Yes this is what i am talking about. I got bored of World tour, tried the rivals tab and suprisingly it worked. Or is this something else then the rival mode?

 

[HAL20XX]

Yes this is what i am talking about. I got bored of World tour, tried the rivals tab and suprisingly it worked. Or is this something else then the rival mode?

Same Rivals mode. You can select it within the campaign Race section or Community. They both take you to the same place.