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A Ferrari month would probably include 2 returning cars to the franchise, my guess being the older race cars like the 166MM that last appeared in FM7/FH4.
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Don't forget several classic Ferrari's that could be included. 712M, 308 Carma FF, 550 Maranello GTS, 246 F1, 500 superfast, F430 GT3 etc.
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I would love the Ferrari 550 GTS to return but the reason it didn't make it to FM4 was licensing. Its not really a official Ferrari product. It has some Ferrari blessing to exist although I'm guessing Frederic Dor had to pay a pretty penny for that to happen. I'm guessing the same licencing issue still remains. Unless theres been a change of person responsible for these decisions and a change of heart.
Maybe the 575 GTC which was official Ferrari product could appear?
Either way would love to hear that V12 scream again around Sunset.
Maybe the 575 GTC which was official Ferrari product could appear?
Either way would love to hear that V12 scream again around Sunset.
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Considering they'd likely have to rebuild the 550 from the ground up at this point, I think they could just go with the 575 GTC if they wanted to give us a GT1 Ferrari. Problem is, why would they? Early 2000s GTs are completely absent from FM23, and there doesn't seem to be any interest in reintroducing the class. Even the Aston DBR9, which kept us company through the Xbox One era, is gone. The 575 would be a fish out of water, stuck competing with the GT500 Nissan R33 and a variety of older road versions of late-90s GT1s.
@RolexGTP also mentioned the Carma 308 - I don't see that ever coming to FM for the exact same reason as the Care Racing/Prodrive 550, it was not developed by Ferrari.
I'd say the most likely candidates for a Ferrari month would be the 1966-7 Ferrari 312 to bring the 60s Formula class closer to completion, and the 288 GTO Evoluzione (which, IIRC, showed up in the Dead Sea Scrolls back in the FH4 days - @TheAdmiester can probably confirm or deny that) to join the field of Group 5 racers already present in-game. The 312P last seen in FM7 would likely make a return as well, as it would be a good opponent for the Matra we were recently blessed with, the Porsche 917 and any 908 Spyder variants they may add during Porsche Month.
But of course, the star of that update would be the inevitable 296 GT3, perhaps the 499P if it can actually be licensed (and in the worst case scenario they can probably get cheeky and add the Modificata instead, with an engine plate downgrade that magically brings it in line with the WEC version's power output, or in any case closer to the other Proto-H cars).
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Some time ago in this same thread I commented how the absence of GT1 cars seemed inexplicable to me.
Even more so taking into account all GT1 that have been in previous Forza games.
Even the fact that the road legal Elise GT1 is in FH5 but not in FM is something curious to say the least.
Even more so taking into account all GT1 that have been in previous Forza games.
Even the fact that the road legal Elise GT1 is in FH5 but not in FM is something curious to say the least.
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Good point. Looking through the divisions list in FM and seeing Forza GT2, GT3, and GT4 but no Forza GT1 is a little weird. What's interesting is that we have had all three small eras of GT1 represented in a Forza game before to some degree. FM1-4 went the heaviest in terms of cars. Hopefully we can get some of them returned in this game one day but not holding my breath on it.
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I want more racing cars from other classes, i know Endurance is the hottest thing in racing right now, but there has some fun cars that i wanted be in the game
Some Exemples
-Any Modern Non-F1 Formula Car
-Ford Mustang Black Horse R Challenge
-Toyota 86 Cup North America
-Toyota Corolla TCR
-Supercars New Gen
-NASCAR Trucks
-Stock Car Brazil New Gen
-Some oddball racing cars like The Tubarão MC40 based of Ford GT or any pickup truck racer
Some Exemples
-Any Modern Non-F1 Formula Car
-Ford Mustang Black Horse R Challenge
-Toyota 86 Cup North America
-Toyota Corolla TCR
-Supercars New Gen
-NASCAR Trucks
-Stock Car Brazil New Gen
-Some oddball racing cars like The Tubarão MC40 based of Ford GT or any pickup truck racer
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I would love to see GT1 in FM and stuff like DTM (before it became another GT3 series).
Indycar should make a comeback too, it will fill the F1 void to some extent. However, most LMDh are kinda weird in terms of handling, so i would like to see them improve before any other high df racecars make it in.
Modern factory racecars has the potential to be a fictional modern "Forza GT1".
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1995 - 1996 ITC and 2000 - 2003 DTM.
I would give anything to have those DTM eras in Forza.
But with Raceroom existing, I find it difficult for those cars to arrive.
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Has there been a mixed class challenge like the sedan one before? There probably has been and I just don't remember it. I was between the Falcon, the Jaguar, and the Elantra. I picked the Falcon and I think it was a mistake. It's so quiet and I don't think I've ever seen a car that wants to spin it's tires more than it does.
I think the only race I was fighting with another B class car was the first one at Lime Rock which I finished 2nd in. After that I think it was two C class cars were the rivals and I just passed them easily after lap 2 or 3. But because the Falcon wanted to spin out constantly I couldn't really pull away.
So if you picked a C class car you would have to beat the higher B class cars or just your own C class competition?
The Yaris seems to be a good car. A little jittery under braking but otherwise ok.
I think the only race I was fighting with another B class car was the first one at Lime Rock which I finished 2nd in. After that I think it was two C class cars were the rivals and I just passed them easily after lap 2 or 3. But because the Falcon wanted to spin out constantly I couldn't really pull away.
So if you picked a C class car you would have to beat the higher B class cars or just your own C class competition?
The Yaris seems to be a good car. A little jittery under braking but otherwise ok.
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Tis a good point. If they kept the DBR9 then it might be worth adding another GT1. But given the Aston is gone it would just be on its own.
Speaking of the GT500 Nissan- it belies all logic that they add that and not the NSX and Supra of the same era. Or even tell us when the Nissan dropped that its two nemesis from the era were a future addition. The BMW M4 DTM of FM5 was the same. The 360 era games had all three of the GT500 cars from launch. Plus both the DTM makes. There's two popular championships both in single player and multiplayer for fans to enjoy.
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I think the Nissan was possibly a result of a partnership/agreement T10 made with Nissan because I believe it was @-Fred- who noticed it & some of the other Nissans added, were out of their Heritage Collection.
I mean, it'd be fantastic to see other GT500s back. More so if T10 did similar, going to Motegi for the NSX & other Hondas, & where ever Toyota has its GT500 Supras stored.
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Given the Nissan Pike car pack in Horizon 5, I think that T10 and Nissan's relationship's blooming. Hopefully, this paves way to add more never-before seen Nissans like the C210 and R30 Skylines, as well as the 280Zs and Bluebirds. Motorsport-wise, the older Nissan Group C models (R86V, P35) and the Primera BTCC.
This will be an interesting division. Something like "Forza Pickup Truck Racers"?
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You can build a Dark Horse R Challenge car out of the Dark Horse road car. The Challenge cars aren't really that heavily modified, and with how T10 likes to make race cars fully adjustable out of the box even when real life cars have spec parts that can't be adjusted, you would probably end up with a more accurate one... The only thing is the interior wouldn't look right since we can't properly strip them.
While I don't want them to start adding back SUVs and Ford Raptors and stuff, I'd love to see them to add vintage 2WD minitrucks to make the SCCA RaceTruck Challenge series. They should be light, draft well, and with no weight over the rear ends, should be pretty playful. Some interesting names went through the series, like the Archer brothers, Steve Saleen, Pete Halsmer, Petey Cunningham, Tommy Kendall, and even Jeremy Shaw, the RLM commentator for lots of ALMS and other series endurance races.
As far as other racing trucks go, the ACTC truck class is kinda cool, with pretty stock-car looking trucks:
And, while it would never happen because they aren't real, but the DMR VTS65 mod for NR2003 with hypothetical '60s NASCAR trucks is super cool and I would race the hell out of these things:
This is something T10 has always been kinda bad at. Even in past games where we had more options from different classes, they often get the specs for them from different series/eras/trims so cars that should be competitive aren't really that close.
I think it contributes a lot to the feeling of a lack of progression on the content side of things, even though they have been adding cars every month. The only time it really feels like we got something "new" was the NASCAR update, and it was one of the best received and best utilized updates so far. While NASCAR ticked a slightly different/"new" box in that it's a little bit different discipline than Forza's normal road racing, I don't see why a GT4 update, or classic GT1 update, or SuperTouring or DTM or JGTC or any of dozens of other series/regulation sets wouldn't also be a popular update.
While it still wasn't utilized as well as it could have been, the NASCAR update definitely energized the community with what felt like a somewhat cohesive new series to try. It had multiple manufacturer choices to represent, new canvases for painters, a new type of car for tuners to tackle, a handful of relevant tracks were already in the game, and it justified its own hopper being set up that, to this day, is (relatively speaking) still fairly popular.
Compare that to something like the introduction of the GT500 Skyline. It was a new race car based on a super iconic model, from a previously unrepresented class that is highly regarded by racing fans and underrepresented in modern racing games... but it was basically an afterthought that many people have never even driven and many almost forget was added to the game. There was nothing to do with it as it had no rivals in the game, there's one relevant feeling track for it, and it just got dumped in a class where it doesn't feel like it belongs really. Since you had to jump through a bunch of stupid hoops to get it, the majority of the community doesn't even have it which means there isn't much of a "market" for liveries or tunes. Had they paired it with the NSX and Supra and maybe a few GT300 cars to go with them, along with SUGO or Fuji, and a JGTC hopper, it could have been a big deal.
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Anybody know how to complete the weekly division challenge: Complete a race in each of the following Divisions: Modern Hot Hatch, Modern Sport Touring, Modern Sport Compact ? Ive tried doing a custom single race with a car from each division,ive even tried 1 race from each of the 4 recent tours but cant get the challenge to complete.Any ideas anybody?
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Weird enough. Mine completed the first day it was available and I didn't even do all the races. It gave it to me after the first race I did.
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@Beezer215 This is the latest challenge for this week,yes?
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I believe the denizens of the official forums was asking for this to be changed with FM7. I suppose Turn 10 never seen it as a priority, and the official forums never made a big enough deal out of it. So, we get the count down to abrupt termination.
It would be nice if some real support could be thrown behind this issue. It would have the game take a big step in the right direction. In stead of laps, it would be better to get a good idea of how long you'll be racing, at a glance.
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Yes. Just handed it out after one race. I would guess there would be something wrong with the terms of completing it in the code.
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@Beezer215 Just done it a second time and it completed.Nevermind,done noe.
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