Forza Motorsport General Discussion Thread

[McLaren]

I used the Apollo as Nacho suggested. I had a Koenigsegg RS I tried, but I should've learned my lesson trying to use them back in FH4.

 

[UKMikey]

I used the Apollo as Nacho suggested. I had a Koenigsegg RS I tried, but I should've learned my lesson trying to use them back in FH4.

One:1 was way better than the Apollo for me.

 

[Apple Slipper]

I had almost forgotten that this car used to be present back in FM4:View attachment 1439240
This and/or some other hill climb specials would be a nice addition IMO, now that we're getting Fujimi Kaido back.

Honestly would like to see more Suzuki cars in the Forza franchise such as:

• 2018 Suzuki Alto Lapin
• 2016 Suzuki Alto Works
• 1992 Suzuki Cappuccino
• 2022 Suzuki Carry
• 1996 Suzuki Escudo Pikes Peak
• 1962 Suzuki Fronte
• 2023 Suzuki Hustler
• 2004 Suzuki Ignis Sport
• 2012 Suzuki Jimny Sierra
• 2022 Suzuki Jimny Sierra
• 1985 Suzuki Mighty Boy
• 2021 Suzuki Spacia Custom XS Turbo
• 1996 Suzuki Swift GTI
• 2007 Suzuki Swift Sport
• 2022 Suzuki Swift Sport (my car with photo below)
• 2005 Suzuki Swift Super 1600
• 2008 Suzuki SX4 WRC
• 1992 Suzuki Vitara JLX
• 2022 Suzuki Wagon R Smile
• 2017 Suzuki Xbee

 

[ClydeYellow]

Ohhh, the Swift Sport would be a hoot to drive! But I'm afraid it will have to be PGG that adds it first, as IIRC it's not sold in the US, where T10 sources most of its cars for referencing. Then again, with the likelihood of Horizon 6 being set in Japan being greater than zero, I'm feeling hopeful we may see it in a Forza game in the near future.

The Swift GTi would also be a good foil for the 205 Rallye. In general, we need more low-power hot hatches, both old and new!

 

[SugaredFlyer]

Honestly would like to see more Suzuki cars in the Forza franchise such as:

• 2018 Suzuki Alto Lapin
• 2016 Suzuki Alto Works
• 1992 Suzuki Cappuccino
• 2022 Suzuki Carry
• 1996 Suzuki Escudo Pikes Peak
• 1962 Suzuki Fronte
• 2023 Suzuki Hustler
• 2004 Suzuki Ignis Sport
• 2012 Suzuki Jimny Sierra
• 2022 Suzuki Jimny Sierra
• 1985 Suzuki Mighty Boy
• 2021 Suzuki Spacia Custom XS Turbo
• 1996 Suzuki Swift GTI
• 2007 Suzuki Swift Sport
• 2022 Suzuki Swift Sport (my car with photo below)
• 2005 Suzuki Swift Super 1600
• 2008 Suzuki SX4 WRC
• 1992 Suzuki Vitara JLX
• 2022 Suzuki Wagon R Smile
• 2017 Suzuki Xbee

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These plus the Liana and the newer Ignis would be great to have

 

[Dopplegagger]

I've used the AMG One with full slicks and full weight reduction and convincingly won every race. The Countaventador ain't really fun to drive, much like in FH5.

I used that car too but, I tried the events while sticking to the rules of "Level Build Dominate". I had to stay under the car points limit and didn't level the AMG outside the event...

I placed 12th.

 

[nukleabomb]

Master Porsche Racing Icons in Forza Motorsport

Race new-to-Motorsport Porsche cars and experience their robust commitment to innovation and excellence.

forza.net

Patch notes:

https://support.forzamotorsport.net/hc/en-us/articles/37793359009939-Forza-Motorsport-Update-19-Release-Notes-April-7-2025

The distinctive style of Porsche sports cars is among the most recognizable silhouettes in the automotive world, with exceptional performance to match. Race new-to-Motorsport Porsche cars and experience their robust commitment to innovation and excellence in Forza Motorsport Update 19.

New-to-Motorsport Porsche cars are entering the Showroom as Spotlight cars, while others are available as reward cars in the Challenge Hub.

Game Content and Events [All Platforms]​

Spec Division Rivals

Compete for the top of the leaderboard in your favorite car from select divisions while utilizing the same Spec Series (BoP) tune from Featured Multiplayer in this new permanent category of Rivals events!

Spec Division Rivals events will be a great place to set lap times in a wide variety of competitively balanced cars, as well as practice for Featured Multiplayer events, and find tunes – even if that particular series isn’t currently active – on a track that is well-suited for each division of cars.

• Early Factory Racecar
• Early LMP
• Formula 60s
• Formula 70s
• Formula Mazda
• Forza AUS
• Forza GT2
• Forza GT3
• Forza GT4
• Forza P1
• Forza P2
• Forza Proto-H
• Forza Touring Cars
• Grand Prix Rivals
• GTP/C
• GTX Sportscars
• Modern Factory Racecars
• NASCAR
• Prototype Group Racing
• The Birth of Grand Prix
• Vintage Le Mans Prototypes
• Vintage Le Mans Sportscars

Spec Division Rivals event leaderboards may occasionally be wiped if significant changes are made to the underlying Spec Series (BoP) tune resulting in lap times that are no longer achievable. This should typically only occur in cases where we are further improving the balance between the cars.

Career Events

• Featured Tour: Porsche Tour (Available from Apr. 9 5pm PT | Apr. 10 12am UTC – May 21 5pm PT | May 22 12am PT)
  • Porsche Motorsport Icons (Starts Apr. 9 5pm PT | Apr. 10 12am UTC)
    • Le Mans – Old Mulsanne Circuit
    • Mugello – Full Circuit
    • Hockenheim – Full Circuit
    • Nürburgring – Grand Prix Circuit
  • Porsche Endurance (Starts Apr. 16 5pm PT | Apr. 17 12am UTC)
    • Hockenheim – Full Circuit
    • Watkins Glen – Full Circuit
    • Kyalami – Full Circuit
    • Road America – Full Circuit
  • Mid-Engine Porsche (Starts Apr. 23 5pm PT | Apr. 24 12am UTC)
    • Lime Rock Park – South Chicane
    • Virginia International Raceway – Full Circuit
    • Road Atlanta – Grand Prix Circuit
    • Nürburgring – Nordschleife
  • Rear-Engine Porsche (Starts Apr. 30 5pm PT | May 7 12am UTC)
    • Silverstone – Grand Prix Circuit
  • Reward Showcase (Complete all Porsche Tour series)
    • Le Mans – Old Mulsanne Circuit

• Open Class Tour (Available from Apr. 9 5pm PT | Apr. 10 12am UTC – May 7 5pm PT | May 8 12am PT)
  • D Class Series
    • Road America – East Circuit
    • Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course – Short Circuit
    • Yas Marina – North Corkscrew
  • C Class Series
    • Hockenheim – Short Circuit
    • Mugello – Club Circuit
    • Lime Rock Park – Full Circuit
  • B Class Series
    • Nürburgring – Grand Prix Circuit
    • Watkins Glen – Short Circuit
    • Yas Marina – North Circuit
  • A Class Series
    • Kyalami – Grand Prix Circuit
    • Hockenheim – Full Circuit
    • Laguna Seca – Full Circuit
  • S Class Series
    • Brands Hatch – Grand Prix Circuit
    • Daytona International Speedway – Sports Car Circuit
    • Homestead-Miami Speedway – Road Circuit
  • R Class Series
    • Hakone – Grand Prix Circuit
    • Suzuka – Full Circuit
    • Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya – Grand Prix Circuit
  • Reward Showcase (Complete all Open Tour series)
    • Maple Valley – Full Circuit

Reward Cars

• Porsche Tour: 1981 Porsche #1 Porsche System Engineering 924 GTP Le Mans
• Open Class Tour: 2023 Porsche 911 Turbo S

Showroom Cars

The following cars have been added to the Showroom for all Forza Motorsport players:

• 1978 Porsche #43 Porsche Racing 935/78
• 2023 Porsche 911 GT3 R

The 2023 Porsche 911 GT3 R can also be obtained from the Challenge Hub during Porsche Month by completing 15 laps in the Porsche 911 GT3 R Challenge Featured Rivals.

Racing Suits

The following driver suits can be unlocked from the Challenge Hub during Porsche Month:

• Earth Day
  • Unlock Prerequisite: Complete a race on a track in Europe, Asia, and North America.
• Rewind
  • Unlock Prerequisite: Complete 5 races in any car from the 20th century.

Spotlight Cars

Porsche Month introduces four Spotlight cars to the Showroom, one per week.

Spotlight Car	Discount Starts	Discount Ends
1971 Porsche #23 917/20	Apr. 9 5pm PT / Apr. 10 12am UTC	Apr. 16 5pm PT / Apr. 17 12am UTC
1987 Porsche #203 Porsche AG 961	Apr. 16 5pm PT / Apr. 17 12am UTC	Apr. 23 5pm PT / Apr. 24 12am UTC
2016 Porsche Cayman GT4	Apr. 23 5pm PT / Apr. 24 12am UTC	Apr. 30 5pm PT / May 1 12am UTC
1978 Porsche #78 MOMO 935/78	Apr. 30 5pm PT / May 1 12am UTC	May 7 5pm PT / May 8 12am UTC

These Spotlight cars can be used in the Porsche Tour and Spotlight Rivals, the Porsche Motorsport Series in Featured Multiplayer, as well as to complete Challenge Hub objectives.

VIP Discount Cars

VIP Car	Discount Starts	Discount Ends
1978 Porsche #43 Porsche Racing 935/78	Apr. 9 5pm PT / Apr. 10 12am UTC	May 7 5pm PT / May 8 12am UTC
1970 Porsche #3 917 LH	Apr. 9 5pm PT / Apr. 10 12am UTC	Apr. 16 5pm PT / Apr. 17 12am UTC
2019 Porsche 911 Speedster	Apr. 16 5pm PT / Apr. 17 12am UTC	Apr. 23 5pm PT / Apr. 24 12am UTC
2018 Porsche 718 Cayman GTS	Apr. 23 5pm PT / Apr. 24 12am UTC	Apr. 30 5pm PT / May 1 12am UTC
2014 Porsche 918 Spyder	Apr. 30 5pm PT / May 1 12am UTC	May 7 5pm PT / May 8 12am UTC

New Featured Multiplayer Series

• Porsche Multi-Class Series (Available from Apr. 9 5pm PT | Apr. 10 12am UTC – May 7 5pm PT | May 8 12am PT)
  • With over a dozen Le Mans wins and icons like the 911 and 917, Porsche's impact on motorsport is significant. Buckle in for a limited-time event featuring legendary historic and modern Porsches! Car Restrictions cycle daily
• Porsche Mission R Spec Series (Available from Apr. 9 5pm PT | Apr. 10 12am UTC – Apr. 16 5pm PT | Apr. 17 12am UTC)
  • Showcasing the future of electric racing, the 2021 Porsche Mission R combines state-of-the-art technology and sustainable materials to create a machine that pushes the boundaries of innovation and design.

Featured Multiplayer Events Calendar

Featured Series	Spec Series	Open Series	Starts	Ends
Porsche Motorsport Series + Porsche Mission R Spec Series + Vintage Le Mans Prototype Series	Endurance Series + NASCAR Series + Forza GT3 Spec Series + Forza Touring Car Spec Series	Multi-Class Series (ABCS) + Cycled Class Series (P,D,X,C,E – Changes Daily) + S Class Series	Apr. 9 5pm PT / Apr. 10 12am UTC	Apr. 16 5pm PT / Apr. 17 12am UTC
Porsche Motorsport Series + Community Choice Series + MX-5 Cup Spec Series	Endurance Series + NASCAR Series + Forza GT2 Spec Series + Forza Touring Car Spec Series	Multi-Class Series (ABCS) + Cycled Class Series (P,D,X,C,E – Changes Daily) + R Class Series	Apr. 16 5pm PT / Apr. 17 12am UTC	Apr. 23 5pm PT / Apr. 24 12am UTC
Porsche Motorsport Series + BMW Challenge Series + Ginetta Juniors Spec Series	Endurance Series + NASCAR Series + Forza GT3 Spec Series + Forza Touring Car Spec Series	Multi-Class Series (ABCS) + Cycled Class Series (P,D,X,C,E – Changes Daily) + B Class Series	Apr. 23 5pm PT / Apr. 24 12am UTC	Apr. 30 5pm PT / May 1 12am UTC
Porsche Motorsport Series + GTX Sportscar Series Lexus RC F Spec Series	Endurance Series + NASCAR Series + Forza GT2 Spec Series + Forza Touring Car Spec Series	Multi-Class Series (ABCS) + Cycled Class Series (P,D,X,C,E – Changes Daily) + A Class Series	Apr. 30 5pm PT / May 1 12am UTC	May 7 5pm PT / May 8 12am UTC

Rivals Events Calendar

Rivals Event	Car	Track	Starts	End
Peak Performance with Porsche	2023 Porsche 911 GT3 R	Nürburgring – Grand Prix Circuit	Apr. 9 5pm PT / Apr. 10 12am UTC	May 7 5pm PT / May 8 12am UTC
VIP Rivals: Chase the White Whale	1978 Porsche #43 Porsche Racing 935/78	Silverstone – Full Circuit	Apr. 9 5pm PT / Apr. 10 12am UTC	May 7 5pm PT / May 8 12am UTC
Porsche Front-Engine Drift	Any Front Engine Porsche, 968, 944, 928 or 924	Hockenheim – Short Circuit	Apr. 9 5pm PT / Apr. 10 12am UTC	May 7 5pm PT / May 8 12am UTC
Open Class Drift – A Class	Any A Class car	Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course – Short Circuit	Apr. 9 5pm PT / Apr. 10 12am UTC	May 7 5pm PT / May 8 12am UTC
Open Class Drift – B Class	Any B Class car	Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya – Full Circuit	Apr. 9 5pm PT / Apr. 10 12am UTC	May 7 5pm PT / May 8 12am UTC
Open Class Drift – C Class	Any C Class car	Grand Oak – National Reverse Circuit	Apr. 9 5pm PT / Apr. 10 12am UTC	May 7 5pm PT / May 8 12am UTC
Spotlight – Porsche 917/20	1971 Porsche #23 917/20	Le Mans – Old Mulsanne Circuit	Apr. 9 5pm PT / Apr. 10 12am UTC	Apr. 16 5pm PT / Apr. 17 12am UTC
Spotlight – #203 Porsche 961	1987 Porsche #203 Porsche AG 961	Daytona International Speedway	Apr. 16 5pm PT / Apr. 17 12am UTC	Apr. 23 5pm PT / Apr. 24 12am UTC
Spotlight – Porsche Cayman	2016 Porsche Cayman GT4	Laguna Seca	Apr. 23 5pm PT / Apr. 24 12am UTC	Apr. 30 5pm PT / May 1 12am UTC
Spotlight – Porsche 935/78	1978 Porsche #78 MOMO 935/78	Circuit de Spa-Francorchamps	Apr. 30 5pm PT / May 1 12am UTC	May 7 5pm PT / May 8 12am UTC

Challenge Hub

Featured Challenges

Apr. 9 5:00 PM PT – May 7 5:00 PM PT | Apr. 10 12:00 AM UTC – May 8 12:00 AM UTC

Title	Description	Reward
Porsche Challenge	Complete all series in the Porsche Tour in Career OR Complete 10 races in the Porsche Motorsport Series in Featured Multiplayer	981 Porsche #1 Porsche System Engineering 924 GTP Le Mans
Open Class Challenge	Complete all series in the Open Class Tour OR Complete 10 races in any Open Series in Featured Multiplayer	2023 Porsche 911 Turbo S
Porsche 911 GT3 R Challenge	Complete 15 Laps in the ‘Porsche 911 GT3 R Challenge’ Featured Rivals Event	2023 Porsche 911 GT3 R
Around the World	Complete a race on a track in Europe, Asia, and North America	Earth Day Suit
Time Machine	Complete 5 races in any car from the 20th century	Rewind Suit

Weekly Challenges

Week 1: Apr. 9 5:00 PM PT – Apr. 16 5:00 PM PT | Apr. 10 12:00 AM UTC – Apr. 17 12:00 AM UTC

Title	Description	Reward
Spotlight Challenge	Complete 10 laps in the ‘Spotlight – Porsche 917/20’ Rivals Event	25,000 Credits
Weekly Skills Challenge	Complete 5 clean laps on Hockenheim – Full Circuit	10,000 Credits
Weekly Safety Challenge	Complete 5 races without receiving a penalty in Featured Multiplayer	25,000 Credits
Weekly Rivals Challenge	Beat 5 Rivals in the ‘Peak Performance with Porsche’ Rivals Event	10,000 Credits
Weekly Track Challenge	Get a Segment Score of 8 or Higher on Nürburgring – GP Circuit	10,000 Credits

Week 2: Apr. 16 5:00 PM PT – Apr. 23 5:00 PM PT | Apr. 17 12:00 AM UTC – Apr. 24 12:00 AM UTC

Title	Description	Reward
Spotlight Challenge	Get on the podium in the 1987 Porsche #203 Porsche AG 961 in a race with at least 10 opponents	25,000 Credits
Weekly Skills Challenge	Complete 3 clean laps in Qualifying in Featured Multiplayer	10,000 Credits
Weekly Safety Challenge	Complete 5 races without receiving a penalty in Featured Multiplayer	25,000 Credits
Weekly Rivals Challenge	Complete 10 clean laps in any Rivals Event	10,000 Credits
Weekly Track Challenge	Get on the Podium on any Hockenheim layout	10,000 Credits

Week 3: Apr. 23 5:00 PM PT – Apr. 30 5:00 PM PT | Apr. 24 12:00 AM UTC – May 1 12:00 AM UTC

Title	Description	Reward
Spotlight Challenge	Reach Car Level 5 or higher in the 2016 Porsche Cayman GT4	25,000 Credits
Weekly Skills Challenge	Get on the Podium in any Featured Multiplayer race OR Get on the Podium 3 times in Career races	25,000 Credits
Weekly Safety Challenge	Complete 5 races without receiving a penalty in Featured Multiplayer	25,000 Credits
Weekly Rivals Challenge	Beat a rival in the 2016 Porsche Cayman GT4	10,000 Credits
Weekly Track Challenge	Complete 10 laps on any Road Atlanta layout	10,000 Credits

Week 4: Apr. 30 5:00 PM PT – May 7 5:00 PM PT | May 1 12:00 AM UTC – May 8 12:00 AM UTC

Title	Description	Reward
Spotlight Challenge	Beat 5 Rivals in the ‘Spotlight –Porsche 935/78' Rivals event	25,000 Credits
Weekly Skills Challenge	Qualify in Pole Position in any Featured Multiplayer race	25,000 Credits
Weekly Safety Challenge	Complete 5 races without receiving a penalty in Featured Multiplayer	25,000 Credits
Weekly Rivals Challenge	Get a Drift Score of 10,000 in any Drift Rivals event	10,000 Credits
Weekly Track Challenge	Get a Segment Score of 8 or higher on ‘Brooklands –Luffield’ at Silverstone – Grand Prix Circuit	10,000 Credits

Bug Fixes and Improvements​

Audio [All Platforms]

• Car audio for the 2016 Ford Shelby GT-350R, 2015 Jaguar F-Type R Coupé, and 2011 Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG has been updated based on community feedback.

Cars [All Platforms]

• 2014 BMW M4 Coupé: Fixed bug where holes appeared in the dashboard when the Race Roll cage was applied. [1935958]

Gameplay [All Platforms]

• Updated default track rubbering-in behavior in both Career and Featured Multiplayer:
  • Practice will now always start at 20% rubbered in (previously 33%)
  • Races will now always start at 75% rubbered in (previously 66%)
• Updated default track rubbering-in behavior in Featured Rivals events to align with behavior in Open Class Time Attack Rivals events:
  • Track rubbering will remain at 100% along the driveline from the start of ALL Rivals event (existing functionality)
  • To ensure fairness, rubber will no longer build up outside of the driveline over time, regardless of how much the player has driven around the track in ALL Rivals events

Featured Multiplayer [All Platforms]

• Added new Porsche Mission R Spec Series to the one-make series rotation
• Removed the following cars from the Forza GT3 Series eligible car list with plans for a future release of dedicated series to more accurately reflect their usage in real-world motorsport:
  • 2018 Lamborghini #63 Squadra Corse Huracán Super Trofeo Evo
  • 2015 Lamborghini #63 Squadra Corse Huracán LP620-2 Super Trofeo
  • 2017 Ferrari #25 Corse Clienti 488 Challenge

Featured Multiplayer Spec Series Balance Changes:​

Minor tweaks have been made to a couple Forza Touring Cars based on player feedback after the Spec/BoP overhaul in Update 17. Additionally, all new cars in Update 19 have been added and tuned within their respective Featured Multiplayer Series.

Car	Featured Multiplayer Series	Summary of Changes
2018 Volkswagen #22 Experion Racing Golf GTI	Forza Touring Car Series	Increased HP by 1%
2020 Lynk & Co #62 Cyan Racing 03	Forza Touring Car Series	Increased HP by 2% Reduced Weight by 1%
1971 Porsche #23 917/20	Vintage Le Mans Prototypes Series	Added to & tuned within existing series
1964 Ford GT40 MKI	Vintage Le Mans Prototypes Series	+5% HP +50% downforce
1963 Shelby Monaco King Cobra	Vintage Le Mans Prototypes Series	+10% HP
1981 Porsche #1 Porsche System Engineering 924 GTP Le Mans	GTX Sportscar Series	Added to & tuned within existing series
1987 Porsche #203 Porsche AG 961	GTX Sportscar Series	Added to & tuned within existing series
1978 Porsche #78 MOMO 935/78	GTX Sportscar Series	Added to & tuned within existing series

Similar to our rebalancing overhaul of the Forza Touring Cars in Update 17, we’re now happy to share a new Spec/BoP overhaul for both the Forza GT2 and Forza GT3 Series in Update 19.



As with the Forza Touring Car Series overhaul, all Forza GT2 and Forza GT3 Series cars were reverted to stock parts – except for tire width to normalize – and re-tuned with feedback from participants in our Forza Insiders Program.



With that in mind, the percentages seen below are in relation to the stock cars.



Forza GT2 BoP Update

Car	Horsepower	Weight	Downforce	Drag
2014 Chevrolet #3 Corvette Racing Corvette C7.R	+4%	+2%	Stock	+2%
2014 Dodge #93 SRT Motorsports Viper GTS-R	+5%	+4%	Stock	+2%
2015 Porsche #91 Porsche Team Manthey 991 RSR	-1%	+1%	+1% Front +6% Rear	-1%
2016 Ford #66 Ford Racing GT Le Mans	-5%	Stock	-5%	Stock
2017 BMW #24 BMW Team RLL M6 GTLM	Stock	+2%	+3%	-1%
2017 Porsche #92 Porsche GT Team 911 RSR	Stock	+1%	-6%	+6%
2018 Aston Martin #97 AMR Vantage GTE	-7%	Stock	-10%	-8%
2018 BMW #1 BMW M Motorsport M8 GTE	-17%	Stock	-3%	-10%
2019 Ferrari #62 Risi Competizione 488 GTE	-16%	Stock	+14%	-8%
2020 Chevrolet #3 Corvette Racing C8.R	Stock	Stock	-22%	+2%

Forza GT3 BoP Changes

Car	Horsepower	Weight	Downforce	Drag
2011 Ferrari #62 Risi Competizione 458 Italia GTC	+27%	+6%	+5%	+15%
2014 Bentley #17 M-Sport Bentley Continental GT3	-2%	-4%	Stock	-16%
2015 Cadillac #3 Cadillac Racing ATS-V.R	-2%	-3%	+10%	+5%
2017 Aston Martin #7 Aston Martin Racing V12 Vantage GT3	-2%	+2%	Stock	-15%
2018 Acura #36 NSX GT3	+12%	+6%	Stock	Stock
2018 Audi #44 R8 LMS GT3	+1%	+5%	Stock	-5%
2018 Mercedes-AMG GT3	+9%	Stock	Stock	+9%
2018 Porsche #73 Park Place Motorsports 911 GT3 R	+20%	+4%	+13%	+18%
2019 McLaren #03 720S GT3	+13%	+1%	Stock	-4%
2020 Lexus #14 VASSER SULLIVAN RC F GT3	+18%	-7%	+10%	+10%
2023 BMW #96 Turner Motorsports M4 GT3	Stock	+1%	Stock	+4%
2023 Porsche 911 GT3 R (NEW)	+2%	+1%	Stock	Stock

 

[Kelpy D]

Look how they massacred my Porsches! Now the Martini 935 and Boss 924's iconic liveries are barely recognizable. (The community will prolly cook up some accurate liveries soon)

Sometimes I rather they not even add the car to the game if they can't include it's proper livery in full. That sucks so bad but I guess community liveries will be the next best thing.

This censorship's getting out of hand, especially to the #43 935/78. First, the SS stuff, now, removing the iconic colors related to an alcohol brand in a livery? If that were the case, part of the Ferrari 641's livery would have been inexistent (the blank Marlboro logo with Prost's name) in Forza since FM6.

Even Project Cars 3 did well with keeping faith in its liveries

 

[RolexGTP]

Look how they massacred my Porsches! Now the Martini 935 and Boss 924's iconic liveries are barely recognizable. (The community will prolly cook up some accurate liveries soon)
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Sometimes I rather they not even add the car to the game if they can't include it's proper livery in full. That sucks so bad but I guess community liveries will be the next best thing.

 

[Nacho Libre]

Modest 1.7 GB update for PC downloading right now.

 

[GBalao888]

Look how they massacred my Porsches! Now the Martini 935 and Boss 924's iconic liveries are barely recognizable. (The community will prolly cook up some accurate liveries soon)
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This censorship's getting out of hand, especially to the #43 935/78. First, the SS stuff, now, removing the iconic colors related to an alcohol brand in a livery? If that were the case, part of the Ferrari 641's livery would have been inexistent (the blank Marlboro logo with Prost's name) in Forza since FM6.

Even Project Cars 3 did well with keeping faith in its liveries

Other than getting rid of all FOMO mechanics, the next prioritization is for Turn Ten to restore their default liveries in full.

However, the logos of alcohol and tobacco are perfectly understandable, that they would want to avoid these as much as possible.

 

[AMR Matthijs]

Very solid update if you ask me And any update with a new modern GT3 race car and other race cars is a win. To me, the clear standout is the 961 which is a true unicorn

Also very good additions with the 924 GTP and the return of the 935/78 (now apparently as 2 different versions). I do think though that Porsche Motorsport Icons as the theme of this month should have included an iconic Porsche Le Mans winner like the 917K or 936 so that's a bit of a missed opportunity.

Anyway, can't wait to take these cars to the track

 

[skazz]

Sometimes I rather they not even add the car to the game if they can't include it's proper livery in full. That sucks so bad but I guess community liveries will be the next best thing.

It was probably a choice between not releasing the car or missing out sponsors on the livery. Especially older cars there are probably a bunch of old sponsors which are simply not able to be licensed anymore.

The community will fix that within days.

 

[SugaredFlyer]

Look how they massacred my Porsches! Now the Martini 935 and Boss 924's iconic liveries are barely recognizable. (The community will prolly cook up some accurate liveries soon)
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This censorship's getting out of hand, especially to the #43 935/78. First, the SS stuff, now, removing the iconic colors related to an alcohol brand in a livery? If that were the case, part of the Ferrari 641's livery would have been inexistent (the blank Marlboro logo with Prost's name) in Forza since FM6.

Even Project Cars 3 did well with keeping faith in its liveries

I mean, you can recreate the liveries, it might not be the proper livery on the car, but if it's close enough then that should be fine, I see liveries with the Marlboro branding and they're still up, I mean the 961 is basically just the Rothmans livery without the Rothmans branding on it

 

[Johnny Caisse]

I mean, you can recreate the liveries, it might not be the proper livery on the car, but if it's close enough then that should be fine, I see liveries with the Marlboro branding and they're still up, I mean the 961 is basically just the Rothmans livery without the Rothmans branding on it

Speaking of liveries, I recall seeing somewhere that T10 were working on a way to increase the limit of liveries and tunes. I hope i'm not wrong, that'd be nice for the community.

 

[SugaredFlyer]

Speaking of liveries, I recall seeing somewhere that T10 were working on a way to increase the limit of liveries and tunes. I hope i'm not wrong, that'd be nice for the community.

I swear the devs said that they would implementing the Creative Hub a while ago

 

[egl92]

There are more important things to fix, FOMO, permanent featured tours...

But the liveries thing is starting to get a bit noticeable.

We all understand that they don't include tobacco or alcohol logos, (the 961 except the Rothmans logo is fine) but from there to make race cars without number, any sponsor (MX5, Ginetta) or directly remove it (KTM GT4, Altima Supercar) there is too much difference.

Hopefully the community will fix it, but Turn10 could put a little more effort into this aspect.

 

[UKMikey]

Speaking of liveries, I recall seeing somewhere that T10 were working on a way to increase the limit of liveries and tunes. I hope i'm not wrong, that'd be nice for the community.

I hope so too. If this means @RPM Bibblefish (for example) could return to tuning I'd be very happy. I'd also love to see @PJTierney start releasing liveries again but given the limitations with the editor I unfortunately don't see that happening.

 

[RolexGTP]

Drove all the cars and really digging the 961 and the 917/20 pink pig. All the cars sound good too although the Jaguar F type R does not have its raspy and popping exhaust like in real life, that could use some work again. But the AMG and GT350 are pretty spot on. GTX class needs to be broken up, it is getting a little crowded and needs subdivisions with the addition of the four Porsches within it.

 

[NotThePrez]

Porsche 935, my absolutely uncontrollable beloved...

Also hyped to see the Porsche 961 included, as it's a shockingly unknown Le Mans racer. Hopefully it makes for a solid rival to the IMSA Audi Quatto in GTX.

 

[PJTierney]

I hope so too. If this means @RPM Bibblefish (for example) could return to tuning I'd be very happy. I'd also love to see @PJTierney start releasing liveries again but given the limitations with the editor I unfortunately don't see that happening.

When the game adds a Creative Hub, maybe.

 

[Jezza819]

I'm surprised they didn't add the Porsche RS Spyder LMP2. I thought that would certainly be in this update.

Lately I'm having trouble both launching the game and then quitting the game. Today it took 5 times before it launched. It would either crash out right during the headlight banner or it locked up on the warning page. If I want to quit and I hit ok, the game just locks right there. I have to go into task manager to shut the game down.

 

[UKMikey]

Lately I'm having trouble both launching the game and then quitting the game. Today it took 5 times before it launched. It would either crash out right during the headlight banner or it locked up on the warning page. If I want to quit and I hit ok, the game just locks right there. I have to go into task manager to shut the game down.

One of my biggest problems with the game is that when I select "fuel and tire" in preparation for practice it takes what feels like a couple of minutes to load up the telemetry and estimate how many laps a given amount of fuel will last, during which time the game freezes and I can't do anything except listen to the terrible music until it gives me back control again.

 

[notarjy]

Agreed on RS Spyder. Besides that looks like a fantastic update leading up to hopefully more gameplay adjustments coming in May and beyond.

Also agreed on the big delay for certain cars to estimate the laps when adjusting fuel. I'm hoping thats something they can fix in the future.

 

[VXR]

I reinstalled in time to grab myself the 240Z and the Revuelto, so that was good timing. I also turned off sim steering and I'm feeling much happier with the experience on controller than I did before. All-in-all, it feels a lot more cohesive than it did when I last played it in early 2024. Heck, it didn't even have the Nordschleife then.

 

[Hasse 86]

Porsche 935, my absolutely uncontrollable beloved...

Also hyped to see the Porsche 961 included, as it's a shockingly unknown Le Mans racer. Hopefully it makes for a solid rival to the IMSA Audi Quatto in GTX.

I'm posting this after a ton of trial and error with tuning and I hope that it can be useful for someone else as well. Especially since there's a whole lot of rear engined monsters coming our way next month.

I'm playing on a Thrustmaster TS-XW-wheel with all assists off and simulation steering, so for controller users this might feel different, but here we go:

Driving the Porsche 911 992 GT3 RS in last month's tour almost made me lose my sanity. The stock tune felt great except for the extremely vicious lift off oversteer. Now, I know you're not supposed to lift off mid corner in a rear engined car, but in some corners you have to. The carousel at Road America for example.

Having tried lots of different tunes I got extremely frustrated because I got either a very understeery car with no lift-off oversteer, OR a a car with good turn-in but lethal lift-off oversteer.

What finally gave me a somewhat driveable and balanced car was:

1. Having the front suspension just one "click" harder than the rear (both roll bars, suspension and dampers).
2. Reducing the caster all the way down.
3. Reducing the rear suspension roll center to between -5 and -25
4. Running the rear diff at 50% on throttle and 75%-95% on coasting.

After hours of tuning this was the only settings that made the 992 GT3 RS controllable.

I've found that some rear engined cars handle really good in FM '23 with excellent rotation off throttle, while still being controllable, while other have the problem described above. I haven't really found exactly what is causing this, but a theory is that it's for cars with less that 40% of the weight on the front (the GT3 RS's balance is 39/61 stock). Fully upgraded with slicks and race weight reduction (changes the balance to about (41/59) this behaviour is no longer present.

Anyway, sorry for the long rant. I hope that it can be useful for someone else. You're more than welcome to share any tuning tips for rear engined cars that you guys have 😊

 

[Kelpy D]

I mean, you can recreate the liveries, it might not be the proper livery on the car, but if it's close enough then that should be fine, I see liveries with the Marlboro branding and they're still up, I mean the 961 is basically just the Rothmans livery without the Rothmans branding on it

I get that community liveries will be made to turn these cars into their exact counterparts, complete with the redacted sponsorships on their base liveries. But the base liveries are what I’m talking about.

 

[UKMikey]

I get that community liveries will be made to turn these cars into their exact counterparts, complete with the redacted sponsorships on their base liveries. But the base liveries are what I’m talking about.

Do that many people who care about these things actually use the base liveries? First thing I do when buying a new car is check out the community paints.

 

[LumpiestFish]

The 911 GT3 R is brutal to drive. So much over steer compared to the previous GT3 R model.

Also, another Moby Dick 935? rather than any of the other variants of the 935?

 

[Morbid65]

A little bit of a mixed bag. The 961 and 924 GTP are cool, great to have a 935 back (although I'm not sure we needed 2), Pink Pig isn't my first choice of 917 but it's cool I guess. Everyone will love the GT3 because somehow we aren't all sick of GT3 racing yet, and the 911 Turbo I couldn't care much less about. The Cayman GT4 is annoying since it's the road car, would have been the perfect chance to bring us the race car version since we desperately need GT4 cars.

I was really hoping for the 904 and 906, and I would have taken the 917/30 over the Pink Pig. I've also long wanted the 356 coupe to come over from Horizon, but since the '58 Alfa Giulietta Sprint didn't come over from FM7 to race it against and we already have the open top one, it's not really high priority.

Interesting to see the #43 935 is still screwed up compared to the MOMO one and has like 30mph lower top speed for no apparent reason. Wonder how it will impact the use of the car, some leagues might actually be able to use the #43's weird handicap as some kind of BoP, and for the GTX division spec lobbies they will need 2 BoPs for car instead of copy and pasting one for both.

I really hope they start ramping up features again soon and get back to a more normal track release schedule once they are done with the Fujimi Kaido update. I know we weren't expecting those things after their announcement back in January, but I feel like these several months of very little bugfixing and nothing feature-wise are starting to drag with a feeling of lack of progress for the game.


Somewhat in the spirit of "Porsche month" our league started our 944 Cup season tonight and I was able to get liveries finished up in time for it.

It has been kinda fun trying to make Porsche 962 liveries fit on the totally different shaped 944. My team is running a Bayside Racing 1989 IMSA season livery with my #65 car inverted to help differentiate teammates, I made a Dauer TicTac 962 inspired livery for another team, another vaguely inspired by Kremer Racing Kenwood 962, and an unfinished Gebhardt MOMO livery from the Mid-Ohio round of the 1989 IMSA season that I have almost ready as an extra for anyone too lazy to make their own livery.




I also made a Brumos inspired one with stripes made out of little 944 logos (kinda like that one year the GTLM car had the stripes made out of little 911 logos) for someone else.