I'm trying to get in contact with ninjateq as of last night.Page is still suspended. Whats going on? I miss my daily dose of ForzaCentral.
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Gone again
Indeed. That's site has become a bit of a dead horse really. Hope the same thing thing doesn't happen to the Forza Motorsport series. They really need to up their game, the bar has been set pretty high.![]()
With regards to the allegations of "fanboyism" going on here, remember Greenawalt describing Gran Turismo 5 as a "PS1 game?" I've never known a developer tout this much bullsh** about a game that clearly doesn't speak for itself technically. Turn 10 are clearly so insecure concerning the quality of their product that they feel the need to spread nonsense about their competitors. Remember the deletion of topics criticising their game and unexplained termination of all connected accounts? That's why I never went near their official forums, even when I did still hold a modicum of respect for them and their games. ForzaCentral seems to be devoid of such asshattery, but as I already mentioned, I'm no longer interested in what Turn 10 has to offer.
I don't remember Mr Greenawalt refering GT5 as a PS1 game- if he did, he must be either delusional or really stupid which I don;t think he is. But what he did say when comparing PD to T10 fell more in the the category of "Foot in Mouth". Personally, I don't think the Forza series will survive to see the next iteration. The dismal sales more than anything put them very close to the trash can of MS.
So, props to Kazunori Yamauchi-san and the PS1 team. That said, I feel that he's passed us the baton. Perhaps he hasn't meant to, but we have taken the genre to new levels and they've stopped evolving the genre. So again, tremendous respect to him, but I'd say the differentiator is they're old school. The emperor's naked, and I don't want to, you know, I don't want to slap him around, but no game competes [with] us right now.
The sales issue is misrepresented. It has sold more than what what game websites will make you believe.I don't remember Mr Greenawalt refering GT5 as a PS1 game- if he did, he must be either delusional or really stupid which I don;t think he is. But what he did say when comparing PD to T10 fell more in the the category of "Foot in Mouth". Personally, I don't think the Forza series will survive to see the next iteration. The dismal sales more than anything put them very close to the trash can of MS.
I think you looked a bit too far into that quote.This guy is not only arrogant, but a fool who is digging Turn 10's own grave.
The sales issue is misrepresented. It has sold more than what what game websites will make you believe.
Regardless, if you want to talk about this kind of stuff, go to the GT forum. This section has managed to avoid many FM vs. GT "debates", & you'll a find a lot more people to agree with your opinion in the other forum.
VGChartz only lists the first 20 weeks. That doesn't do your argument any good when the game's been out close to a year.VGChartz begs to differ.
Forza Motorsport 3 (3.02 million copies sold
Gran Turismo 4 (10.39 million copies sold)
But you came here, first sentence relating to how Dan spoke about GT & followed it by how much "BS" T10 spews. Couple that with the fact that you went ahead & linked a GT sales chart as well.No one was claiming GT5 to be superior. Many of Dan Greenawalt's preposterous comments regarding Forza are unrelated to Gran Turismo.
VGChartz only lists the first 20 weeks. That doesn't do your argument any good when the game's been out close to a year.![]()
VGChartz is not reliable.VGChartz begs to differ.
Wrong. I said it had higher sales than gaming websites will make you believe. I never said the sales were decent.That's entirely irrelevant. Your argument was that Forza enjoyed decent sales.
During the same period? Last I check GT4 was released in Feb. 2005, whilst Forza 3 was released in Oct. 2009.Does the fact that, in its first 20 weeks on sale, the title achieved less than a third the sales of another driving game during the same period, despite having a much wider target demographic, support this argument?
That's entirely irrelevant. Your argument was that Forza enjoyed decent sales. Does the fact that, in its first 20 weeks on sale, the title achieved less than a third the sales of another driving game during the same period, despite having a much wider target demographic, support this argument?
No one was claiming GT5 to be superior. Many of Dan Greenawalt's preposterous comments regarding Forza are unrelated to Gran Turismo.
During the same period? Last I check GT4 was released in Feb. 2005, whilst Forza 3 was released in Oct. 2009
Nice way to throw your argument right out the window, there.
VGChartz only lists the first 20 weeks. That doesn't do your argument any good when the game's been out close to a year.
How about looking up the definition of that word?
20 week sales do not attribute to as being the "same period", when there's a 4 year span in between. Anything from GT4's massive hype to 3 FM games to even the economy & everything in between could have had a potential effect on sales.
I'm helping you out since the Forza section obviously isn't for you.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=156