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£450k-£650k seems awfully cheap for such a significant and recognisable '70s F1 car. Especially when there's a '90s 911 GT2 with an average results pedigree going for £750k-£1m at the same time.
 
£450k-£650k seems awfully cheap for such a significant and recognisable '70s F1 car. Especially when there's a '90s 911 GT2 with an average results pedigree going for £750k-£1m at the same time.

I think it's valued low because it was built in 2008 around a spare period monocoque.
 
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I think it's valued low because it was built in 2008 around a spare period monocoque.
Which is interesting b/c according to this article, 2 more cars were commissioned with approval from the Tyrrell family (P34/09 & P34/10) from scratch in 2018. The 2nd car was put up for sale at £1,750,000 & was nearly identical the '76 winning example except for the rollbar.

It led me to see if any of the other cars have ever been publicly sold & I found this article from the Daily Mail circa 2012 citing the example featured was worth £750,000 back then.

I assume today's value with be near £2 million, then give how crazy valuable historic F1 cars have gotten.
 
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I think it's valued low because it was built in 2008 around a spare period monocoque.
I did wonder if that was the issue, but it does appear to have the correct papers to allow it to race in prestigious historic races (which it has done and won). Much of the stuff you see at Goodwood Revival are 'tool room copies', so its not like actual period provenance means all that much now.
 
No price on it, but this is for sale.

Edit: This link shows $165,000AUD/$106,600USD
 
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I love BaT. Not only does it let me kill time effectively while I'm at work, but it's so fascinating getting basically reference photos of super rare cars like this. Where else would you get photos of a ZZ-S that shows the insane shift linkage:

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Front and center.

Here's an M12. Have you ever wondered what monstrosity of a rear subframe the M12 needed to fit an engine massively larger than the one originally designed for the body?

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Here you go!
 
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I’ve always amazed at how relatively little M12s are listed and sell for. As rare as they are, the cost never seems to creep much above 200k; I’m guessing there just isn’t the demand for them. I’ll always have a soft spot for them, in all their gaudy 90s glory.

Speaking of Tommykaira…

 
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I saw this pop up today & it instantly sparked a memory from my childhood; I remember seeing this car decades ago in a video game about Lotus'. It is noted as a running, fully working example built off an Elan a customer returned. No price given, but Bonhams did have it offered 12 years ago at £80,000 - £120,000, so I assume it's still around that value to £150,000+.
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Mclaren F1 029 up for sale on Sothebys Sealed after being sold for $20,400,000 in August 2021.
https://sealed.sothebys.com/MF24/auction
An Extraordinary McLaren F1 Road Car; One of Only 64 Examples Built
Singular Color Scheme: Creighton Brown with Light Tan and Brazilian Brown Upholstery
Exceptional Time Capsule Condition with Less than 390 Km from New
Delivered New to Japan; Federalized by JK Technologies and US Titled
Offered with FACOM Tool Chest, Luggage, Handbooks, Tool Roll, and Watch (Gooding & Co 2021 Auction)

Saw this pop up last week and couldn't get my eyes off it. Guessing it's going to go for over $20M due to its low milage.
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£450k-£650k seems awfully cheap for such a significant and recognisable '70s F1 car. Especially when there's a '90s 911 GT2 with an average results pedigree going for £750k-£1m at the same time.
The buyers agreed with you. Jody's P34 ended up at £899,314. His 312 T4 was also a huge focal point today, surpassing its original estimates as well & bringing in £6,619,472 over its initial £4.5m-£5.6m valuation.
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mclaren senna on e bay

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Failed to meet reserve, but thanks for the reference photos BaT! I learned a lot about the car from looking at them.
Is it even worth the high bid of $740,000?

Genuinely asking because I was sure WeAreCurated would grab it given they've bought at least 4 Vectors now and just sold a WX3 & WX3-R (that I think they noted as belonging to Gerald himself) to the TurboCollection a few months ago.
 
Is it even worth the high bid of $740,000?

Genuinely asking because I was sure WeAreCurated would grab it given they've bought at least 4 Vectors now and just sold a WX3 & WX3-R (that I think they noted as belonging to Gerald himself) to the TurboCollection a few months ago.

I have to be honest, and admit that the girls made it more pleasant to look at the photos, I barely saw any cars there...



 
I love the photo of it with the F40.
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WeAreCurated just took inventory of Shelby Cobra Concept. This car sold for $2.64 million a few years ago, probably worth $3 million now.


Additionally, Curated also took possession of the Diablo Jota race car that was seen racing in the JGTC (I believe?) & will have it up for sale after a restoration at the factory.
 
Apologies for double posting; Mechatronik shared the rare opportunity to purchase a Zonda 760 on the open market, this one being Diamante Verde featuring beautiful green flakes in the carbon fiber. In addition, Diamante Verde left the factory in this specification unlike many other Zondas that were later converted into 760-specification. No price given, expect $10m+.
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Apologies for double posting; Mechatronik shared the rare opportunity to purchase a Zonda 760 on the open market, this one being Diamante Verde featuring beautiful green flakes in the carbon fiber. In addition, Diamante Verde left the factory in this specification unlike many other Zondas that were later converted into 760-specification. No price given, expect $10m+.
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I wonder if it's possible to purchase a Zonda like this and get it reverted back to C12/C12-S Spec? From what I understand about Zondas they all started out as C12s or Zonda Fs I could be wrong on that though.
 
I wonder if it's possible to purchase a Zonda like this and get it reverted back to C12/C12-S Spec? From what I understand about Zondas they all started out as C12s or Zonda Fs I could be wrong on that though.
Yes. It's called the Pagani Rinascimento program, where they've kept all the original molds & documents needed to completely restore the older Zondas. However, I'm not entirely sure if you can bring it back to a C12/S spec in the finish you want, or Pagani will restore the chassis back down to the exact configuration it was first produced in.

I'd wager this specific car would probably not be reverted by Pagani since it was one of the last Zondas built in 2017 & left the factory in this exact spec.
 
It appears the collection on IG I shared last month has decided to sell a chunk of its cars, including their Vectors & a Cizeta.

WX-3R Roadster: $1,300,000 - $1,500,000 est.
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WX-3 Prototype: $1,300,000 - $1,500,000 est.
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W8 Twin Turbo: $800,000 - $1,000,000 est.
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M12: $400,000 - $600,000 est.
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Cizeta V16T: $700,000 - $900,000 est.
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More interestingly at this auction though, is another Schumacher winning Ferrari up for "grabs". F2001b, chassis 215. The auction notes it is 1 of only 30 Ferrari F1s with a Schumacher victory behind it; this being the winner of the 2002 Australian GP & 3rd place at the 2002 Malaysian GP. Estimated at $8,000,000 - $10,000,000 is what I believe some other Schumacher winning examples have secured. Also noted that this example was still being regularly used by its former owner, but will need to undergo an engine, transmission, & clutch refresh at Maranello before continued use.
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Interesting F40 coming up for sale.

Doesn't say in the attached info, but i read it elsewhere that this wasn't a butchered F40 or F40 LM, but one of the chassis used for crash testing by the factory before being sold on to Simpsons to create this for a wealthy client with a history of racing various Ferraris. A V12 550 Maranello engine replacing the twin turbo V8.

An interesting 'conversion' and although with 478hp (although i read elsewhere it had more than 500hp now) it had slightly more power than a standard road F40's 471hp, it meant more weight and probably an unfavorable weight distribution too. Odd considering the F40 LM/Competizione had 690hp or more with it being easier to tune a twin turbo than an N/A engine.

It does have a competition pedigree, although not a particularly spectacular one.

I guess the £500k - £600k guide price reflects the unpure nature of it.

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If you've ever lusted after a factory gold C5, now's your chance to snag the first of 15 examples used to prototype the color before it was canned due to not meeting production quality standards.

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Oh, and hope you're cool parting with $53k for an auto C5.

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The gold color that they also tried and failed to be able to get working on the C4 a few years prior looks much better. This one looks kind of Buick-y.
 
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