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Leonidae@MFT
It doesn't need to be 850. 750's were a lot more common and shared components and whatnot. And Joey, please, step off your high horse.

:rolleyes: Classy as ever!

It's not being on a high horse, it's called being realistic. What works in Europe doesn't work in the US necessarily. I mean you don't even think we fix things here and that's an incorrect assumption right off the bat.

I can assure you BMW's aren't not frequently in US junkyards, it's mostly small compacts from the 90's and big old cars that are the size of house with the occasional pick up and van thrown into the mix. Can you find them? Sure but don't expect much out of them since if there is anything of value the junkyard employees or owner already snatched it up.
 
It doesn't need to be 850. 750's were a lot more common and shared components and whatnot. And Joey, please, step off your high horse.

Some components, but not at least one of the main ones here which is the gearbox, the electronics (the bit that will go wrong on one) are also pretty much all unique.

Can you also keep to the discussion and stop with the digs, not content with a general inaccurate swipe at all Americans you are now focusing on individuals. It will stop now.
 
Not just one TWR Jaguar XJR-11, you could own the entire team.

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Or, instead of taking it to dealership, you could go to salvage yard and look for tranny and steering rack that are in better condition than the ones in the car. IMO, this car is worthy of keeping on the road, thus, bit of elbow grease and time in phone is small sacrifice. I know, US has "abuse and ditchwhen something fails" attitude when it comes to cars, but here in Europe we still do actually fix the cars.
You can dig all you want, the chances of finding a salvageable transmission & steering rack for an 8 Series is not likely, even less the chance you would succeed in actually fixing it properly.

The electronics are another story however & a large issue with 8 Series. You can dig in salvage yards all day, it won't change the fact you'll need the tools the dealership has to fix the electronics.
It doesn't need to be 850. 750's were a lot more common and shared components and whatnot. And Joey, please, step off your high horse.
How ironic considering the older 7 Series were known for the exact same electronic problems at high miles. Hmm, wonder if that has anything to do with the "shared components and whatnot"....
 
Leonidae@MFT
Or, instead of taking it to dealership, you could go to salvage yard and look for tranny and steering rack that are in better condition than the ones in the car. IMO, this car is worthy of keeping on the road, thus, bit of elbow grease and time in phone is small sacrifice. I know, US has "abuse and ditchwhen something fails" attitude when it comes to cars, but here in Europe we still do actually fix the cars.

Clearly you haven't been to the states. Or if you have, you were a tourist and didn't go and do any kind of relevant research on that statement.
 
Miles mean nothing if the car has been properly maintained.
Those old 7 & 8 Series BMWs can be properly maintained all day. The simple fact is though, that the electronics in those cars have high tendencies to fail above 90,000 miles. It's not exactly an issue you can see coming & prevent, and even if it does get caught by a tech., it will still cost an arm & a leg to fix.

The fact that that 7 has been in a wreck doesn't do your "properly maintained" argument any good, either, since A) it's now wrecked & B) the electronics in that car, if not problematic at 160,000+ miles, are probably going to need work now.
 
Leonidae@MFT
You know what, I call it quits. You guys just don't get what I'm after here. Sheesh..

Nah, I get ya. Take two cars and make one good one. Most people don't want to put in the time and money, or if they do, they have other ideas on a project car.
 
You know what, I call it quits. You guys just don't get what I'm after here. Sheesh..
What is there to get? You're the one who believes a $3,100 8 Series is something special for this thread when it's obvious why it's so cheap & then believe it's a car you could just as easily work on yourself & completely ignore the fact that the electronics require special tools. Then you have this notion that a wrecked 7 Series with similar mileage could be a good donor car when it has the same possible (maybe worse since it's wrecked) issues?

I don't think you get it. They're not good project cars for the money it would require to get an 8 Series back on the road. The money spent doing so could probably get you an 8 with half the mileage & a lot less chance of problems. :dunce:
 
What is there to get? You're the one who believes a $3,100 8 Series is something special for this thread when it's obvious why it's so cheap & then believe it's a car you could just as easily work on yourself & completely ignore the fact that the electronics require special tools. Then you have this notion that a wrecked 7 Series with similar mileage could be a good donor car when it has the same possible (maybe worse since it's wrecked) issues?

I don't think you get it. They're not good project cars for the money it would require to get an 8 Series back on the road. The money spent doing so could probably get you an 8 with half the mileage & a lot less chance of problems. :dunce:

Truth.
 
Then, from your point of view, for same money, what would be a "better" project car? Please, do tell. I am looking these from mechanics point of view, and while I admit that 90's cars could be a little nightmare regarding electric systems, I'd be more worried about the chassis rot than electrics. Experience as former Ford-owner does that..
 
Pretty sure what started all of this is the nature of this thread and the disconnection that you seem to have with everyone else. The 8 series is not a rare car by any stretch of the imagination. They're junkheaps. They're cool junkheaps, for sure, but that doesn't change anything. There is nothing shocking about the price.
 
The 8 series is not a rare car by any stretch of the imagination.

I see about 25 Ferraris (any one of the V8 models) on the road for every single 8 series I see, so your "any stretch of the imagination" quip doesn't really hold water. Plus, there's precious few V12 engined cars around that fall into the category of attainable by the average man's budget; even moreso a V12 in a coupe. That alone sets it apart. Everyone's been pretty quick to jump on Leonidae over mentioning this car from word one, why? It's not like he said a quick bath and a sip of Robitussin in the gas tank would fix any issues it has. If he's willing to put in the time to fix it up and have something more rarely seen, then good for him, the issues may well be minor. As is it's a solid 7 grand below the cheapest one ebay has listed (which also has high mileage) and there's still haggling to do. The internet makes the world a much smaller and easier place to find good condition used OEM parts unlike 20 years ago when you had to trudge to junkyard after junkyard. Not to mention when something breaks you can always replace or rebuild it with a new, better aftermarket part.

In another 10 years I'm sure there will be people drooling over a clean and handsomely upgraded 850 laying tire at a local car meet or on youtube the same way people do now over a Datsun 510 or a KGC10 Skyline. I bet when those were 20 years old most people would have said to just overlook those too, and look who's eating crow now. I say have at it Leon.

BUT, that "ditch it when it breaks" claim is total bs. You're talking about the country that invented the hot rod. We keep (and put back) tens or even hundreds of thousands of old cars on the road every year.
 
Then, from your point of view, for same money, what would be a "better" project car? Please, do tell. I am looking these from mechanics point of view, and while I admit that 90's cars could be a little nightmare regarding electric systems, I'd be more worried about the chassis rot than electrics. Experience as former Ford-owner does that..
How about anything that's not equipped with a V12 to start. Pretty sure that's common knowledge amongst anyone looking for a project car with less than $5,000 to spend on just the car/s themselves.....
 
Then, from your point of view, for same money, what would be a "better" project car? Please, do tell. I am looking these from mechanics point of view, and while I admit that 90's cars could be a little nightmare regarding electric systems, I'd be more worried about the chassis rot than electrics. Experience as former Ford-owner does that..

A project car from a mechanics point of view in the US? Anything made before 1975. If you want something newer an F-body or Mustang works well. If you want something compact and FWD then a Neon, Escort, Civic, etc. If you want something unique a Merkur since it share a ton of parts with a Tbird or even just a Tbird itself.

If you want something old in the US that you can get parts for easily and cheaply it has to be a domestic car.
 
I see about 25 Ferraris (any one of the V8 models) on the road for every single 8 series I see, so your "any stretch of the imagination" quip doesn't really hold water. Plus, there's precious few V12 engined cars around that fall into the category of attainable by the average man's budget; even moreso a V12 in a coupe. That alone sets it apart. Everyone's been pretty quick to jump on Leonidae over mentioning this car from word one, why? It's not like he said a quick bath and a sip of Robitussin in the gas tank would fix any issues it has. If he's willing to put in the time to fix it up and have something more rarely seen, then good for him, the issues may well be minor. As is it's a solid 7 grand below the cheapest one ebay has listed (which also has high mileage) and there's still haggling to do. The internet makes the world a much smaller and easier place to find good condition used OEM parts unlike 20 years ago when you had to trudge to junkyard after junkyard. Not to mention when something breaks you can always replace or rebuild it with a new, better aftermarket part.

In another 10 years I'm sure there will be people drooling over a clean and handsomely upgraded 850 laying tire at a local car meet or on youtube the same way people do now over a Datsun 510 or a KGC10 Skyline. I bet when those were 20 years old most people would have said to just overlook those too, and look who's eating crow now. I say have at it Leon.

BUT, that "ditch it when it breaks" claim is total bs. You're talking about the country that invented the hot rod. We keep (and put back) tens or even hundreds of thousands of old cars on the road every year.

None of that has anything to do with the thread. Look at the postings in it. If you can do an ebay search and find plenty of examples of such a car, it probably doesn't belong here. There's nothing odd or rare about the 8 series. It's a cool car, but it's not rare or hard to find.
 
I don't care if it is a little overpriced at $7,500, I'd still rock something like that. It needs wheel spacer though...badly.
 
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