G27 ---- How big is the deadzone issue

[Sail IC]

I've been playing GT5 since release and have had so much fun. Mostly racing GT500 in official or private launges and I got quite competitive.

Before knowing I got hooket on the game, I bought a Logitech Wireless wheel. Excellent entry solution but now its time to buy a real wheel.

The Logitech G27 seems right to me. High quality wheel and pedals, but there are two issues I have a hard time to get my arms around despite reading many posts on this forum.

Deadzone.
I understand the wheel start to wobble on straights unless you hold it very firmly. I also understand that the car can be difficult to just go straight because of this.
How big of an issue is this ?

Not adjustable 900 deg turnring
I will be mostly racing GT500 type cars. On my current wheel I don't have to turn it a lot to steer the car, and I can quickly catch slides, etc. Will 900 deg turning make me have to do much bigger turns on the wheel then my current. To put it differently, I like my wheel to turn roughly the same way as it does in the car on the screen.

I know there are some other issues with the G27 and GT5 but I'm not so concern about them.

Due to above I have started to look at the Fanatec GT3 wheel as above can be configured in the wheel itself. The G27 vs. GT3 can probably be debated endlessly (both great), but at this point, I'm focusing on above two issues with the G27 as I think they are important in how I intend to use it.

Appreciate any inputs. Thanks

 

[Sureboss]

Probably for the Steering Wheels forum, but, I just got a G27. No issues with it what so ever, I heard there are issues with it driving the X1 and FGT with regards to the straight-line issue you mentioned, but I've completed all relevant events and will never use those cars again, I've not even tested it, but you can improve it by adjusting FFB in the settings.

You'll have no issues with GT500s.

 

[Colonel_Loki]

Going straight if you start to turn a tad then let go, it can wobble back and forth. I've never noticed it fighting me in a straight line though other than rally events.

900 degree rotation? Well it is realistic, because viewing the car from the front it changed very little when turning the wheel almost 180 degrees, and then went to full lock when i reached full lock and no sooner. That said, when i use the stick i drive one handed, and therefore can only turn as much as you can without moving your hand at all, and i've never found a corner i couldn't tackle like this, so i think you'll find it alright.

 

[MONSTAR-1]

Ive got a G27 and there's no menu for adjustments in GT5. Im really surprised that its not in the game as there are settings for a whole bunch of inferior wheels.

It's terrible when driving the X1 on the straights.

 

[Bigbazz]

There are no deadzone issues with GT5 and the G27, and as far as i'm aware GT5 does not support 900 degrees.

 

[JamboGT]

GT5 does support 900 degrees. In fact it supports 1080!

 

[Perkel]

There are no deadzone issues with GT5 and the G27, and as far as i'm aware GT5 does not support 900 degrees.

only animation isn't 900 degrees. And it's weird because in gt5p DEMO was real 900 wheel animation..

 

[Colonel_Loki]

only animation isn't 900 degrees. And it's weird because in gt5p DEMO was real 900 wheel animation..

I think they did that so it wouldn't look weird if the on screen hands didn't move with your's, and also to simplify the animation for shifting. It really makes a lot of sense and doesn't bother me since the tires turn the full amount and accurately.

 

[Perkel]

I think they did that so it wouldn't look weird if the on screen hands didn't move with your's, and also to simplify the animation for shifting. It really makes a lot of sense and doesn't bother me since the tires turn the full amount and accurately.

But you must first accustome to diffrent wheel degree in game vs IRL.

They can always make hands invisible like in LFS

 

[Sail IC]

Just so I understand correct, with the G27, you really need to turn the wheel a lot to get the car to turn. I cannot see myself turning the wheel more than 90 deg in any racing situation, letting go of the 10/2 hands position.

Thanks for the many quick replies. The reason why I posted this thread in this forum is that I wanted GT5 specific answers, not general to any PS3/PC games.

 

[GeneralJesh]

It only happens in GT5

 

[Bigbazz]

I turn the wheel less in GT5 than i do in other games, in Rfactor while rallying setup for 900 the wheel is spinning around all ways, where as on GT5 i'm pretty sure it doesnt respond to input after a certain ammount. Might be car dependant. G27 works fantastic with GT5 though, if you're having any worries about it being weird then you can stop your worrying.

 

[RODDUZ]

It is a bit annoyign the 900 degree thing. Hands stopping throws you to begin with! and resulted in me not turning most effectively. But you soon learnt o ignore the hands not turning fully.

 

[OK8]

I have an old g25 and the deadzone is no issue like many have pointed out here. Only way you'll even notice it is by letting go of the wheel but while you're holding it there's no wobble.

900 degrees took some getting used to because I come from LFS where I raced with 720 deg but even that's no problem. In normal cornering it's not like you're driving a lorry or anything but catching mad slides might get some used to but eventually you'll get it and atleast I find it more satisfying to have to work a bit instead of just turning the wheel 90 degrees from side to side. Feels more stimulating.

 

[MasterFocus]

I have an old g25 and the deadzone is no issue like many have pointed out here. Only way you'll even notice it is by letting go of the wheel but while you're holding it there's no wobble.

900 degrees took some getting used to because I come from LFS where I raced with 720 deg but even that's no problem. In normal cornering it's not like you're driving a lorry or anything but catching mad slides might get some used to but eventually you'll get it and atleast I find it more satisfying to have to work a bit instead of just turning the wheel 90 degrees from side to side. Feels more stimulating.

been playing online a lot recently with some friends, all playing with DS3 fot the most part and I can more easily catch the car with loosing control Vs DS3

 

[Sail IC]

The "Lorry" analogy (US = Truck) is a good one. Normally I turn my wheel very little in most turns, maybe 20 deg, in hairpins maybe a full 90 deg.

As an example, going into the hairpins at Monaco with a GT500 like car, is it enought to turn a G27 90 degrees to make it, or do you need to turn it substantially more.

Cheers

I have an old g25 and the deadzone is no issue like many have pointed out here. Only way you'll even notice it is by letting go of the wheel but while you're holding it there's no wobble.

900 degrees took some getting used to because I come from LFS where I raced with 720 deg but even that's no problem. In normal cornering it's not like you're driving a lorry or anything but catching mad slides might get some used to but eventually you'll get it and atleast I find it more satisfying to have to work a bit instead of just turning the wheel 90 degrees from side to side. Feels more stimulating.

 

[trk29]

Yes my G27 rocks I love it to much

 

[dani_corvette]

Don't worry about GT500 issues with the G27. I have one, and drive GT500s a lot and have absolutely no problem at all.
Since you asked about the hairpin at Monaco, personally I only turn about a bit more of 90 deg. and it works fantastic.
Also, you won't have that rattling problem in straights with the GT500, that's probably exclusive to the X2010, the FGT and likely the Ferrari F1 cars (I don't know about these ones since I don´t own them yet)

 

[Mr. Boy]

As an example, going into the hairpins at Monaco with a GT500 like car, is it enought to turn a G27 90 degrees to make it, or do you need to turn it substantially more.

At monaco drivers turn the wheel a full 180 degrees when they reach the Loews hairpin, like in 0:32 in this video.



However Alonso only seems to turn the wheel 90 degrees on the rest of the course.

 

[Sail IC]

Perfect. I got the answers I was looking for 👍

By judging by dani_corvette's comment and the really cool video clip from Mr. Boy, it actually seems that you have to turn the G27 less than the real F1 drivers do for the same movement of the front wheels

Very helpful community

 

[poe64]

So which wheels gives no rattling on the straights with the X1 as I'm about to change mine.

Cheers

 

[dani_corvette]

Glad to know I was helpful to you
To be honest, I think a G27, even without the full support, is a great investment and lots of fun

 

[Colonel_Loki]

Just so I understand correct, with the G27, you really need to turn the wheel a lot to get the car to turn. I cannot see myself turning the wheel more than 90 deg in any racing situation, letting go of the 10/2 hands position.

Thanks for the many quick replies. The reason why I posted this thread in this forum is that I wanted GT5 specific answers, not general to any PS3/PC games.

I know you already got your answer, but like i said, i've never had to move my hands despite the fact that the front wheels continue to turn up until full lock. I've never really experienced it to be an unrealistically small amount though.

 

[Scans007]

From having the DFGT to the Carrera setup ....And now the G27 and finally h ally with the wheel I have....I have no deadzone issues and to be honest I don't even notice it one bit between the 3 wheel. Grab a g27 and don't look back......

 

[Sail IC]

From having the DFGT to the Carrera setup ....And now the G27 and finally h ally with the wheel I have....I have no deadzone issues and to be honest I don't even notice it one bit between the 3 wheel. Grab a g27 and don't look back......

I actually would really want to buy the new Fanatec GT3 + CSP, but when a google I read about so many quality issues with it so I will go with the G27.

 

[Colonel_Loki]

I actually would really want to buy the new Fanatec GT3 + CSP, but when a google I read about so many quality issues with it so I will go with the G27.

Do you want the fanatec so that you can use it with 360? If so try this:
http://www.play-asia.com/XCM_F1_Converter/paOS-13-71-eq-49-en-70-44aw.html

 

[Scans007]

I actually would really want to buy the new Fanatec GT3 + CSP, but when a google I read about so many quality issues with it so I will go with the G27.

On a side note I had no issues with fanatec or the customer support who I did have to call about an order issue from my side. The G27 is just the right wheel for my tastes and I'm glad I tested them all

No matter what you get it makes racing so much more fun....so enjoy!

 

[enfarfr]

I'm having problems with gears with my G27... Anyone having the same problem?

 

[Colonel_Loki]

I'm having problems with gears with my G27... Anyone having the same problem?

What do you mean, shifting into 2nd? If so you just need to be more patient and really accentuate the shifting.

 

[rankings18]

no deadzone issues w/ my g27 at all...i dont notice it and its not affecting my driving at all..i love this thing and im happy w/ my upgrade (from dfp and dfgt)